Keith wrote:

you could try thread grafting to solve your problem.

keith
possible but it takes 2 years to take hold , if takes hold ,and
after you need to built them anyway so = 4 years

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On 11 Feb 2005 at 14:53, Theo wrote:

Keith wrote:

you could try thread grafting to solve your problem.

keith
possible but it takes 2 years to take hold , if takes hold ,and
after you need to built them anyway so = 4 years


In My book, grafting is the cure of last resort. It is only
worthwhile on a tree with EXCEPTIONAL promise, and if you have
to graft a large number of branches, how do you know the tree
has promise?

Sometimes if you nick the bark all the way through the cambium
layer -- using a very sharp knife -- that will stimulate buds
developing just over the nick.

It sounds to me, however, that this tree needs so much work that
you'd be much better off planting it in the ground and letting
it go wild for a few years.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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I don't know why grafting should be a last resort. Most
of us (including me) are quite inept at this technique, so it
probably is a last resort for most, but that has more to do with
our lack of skill rather than lack of merit for the technique.
I think some circular reasoning is behind the defamation of
grafting. It's too hard, so I don't try it, so it remains too
hard. A change in attitude could open a very viable alternative!
If you're going to plant it in the ground and go wild a
while, why avoid grafting? Give it a try. What do you have to
lose?

Alan Walker
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-----Original Message-----
Keith wrote:
you could try thread grafting to solve your problem.
Keith

On 11 Feb 2005 at 14:53, Theo wrote:
possible but it takes 2 years to take hold, if takes hold, and
after you need to built them anyway so = 4 years

In My book, grafting is the cure of last resort. It is only
worthwhile on a tree with EXCEPTIONAL promise, and if you have
to graft a large number of branches, how do you know the tree
has promise?

Sometimes if you nick the bark all the way through the cambium
layer -- using a very sharp knife -- that will stimulate buds
developing just over the nick.

It sounds to me, however, that this tree needs so much work that
you'd be much better off planting it in the ground and letting
it go wild for a few years.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL

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Alan Walker wrote:

I don't know why grafting should be a last resort. Most
of us (including me) are quite inept at this technique, so it
probably is a last resort for most, but that has more to do with
our lack of skill rather than lack of merit for the technique.
I think some circular reasoning is behind the defamation of
grafting. It's too hard, so I don't try it, so it remains too
hard. A change in attitude could open a very viable alternative!
If you're going to plant it in the ground and go wild a
while, why avoid grafting? Give it a try. What do you have to
lose?
I have done roots grafting and it worked
the first one I did 12 years ago
I have done a a contact grafting from a branch to his own crown
and it worked
I have done another grafting with an external plant to create a
branch on chopped tree ..
all that on the same ...... Trident maple :-)
this one :

http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/i...to&PhotoID=168

you can see half of his crown comes from a side branch lifted and
contact grafted to another one and than cut .. a bad cicatrization
...bombed plenty not wonderful , I turn the tree the others side and
nobody knows but me

The middle branch , the long one has been done by fastening a baby
maple to the trunk where has been chopped and left there rooting in
the same pot as the main trunk until the grafting took hold 2 years
later and then the lower part removed it is there since 10 years now
the root cannot be seen as removed few years later as I needed to
have the tree look taller so I started discovering trunk and roots and
had to remove that one




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