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Globe artichokes, great geometric folliage for the ornamental
garden.

David

I've never been able to get artichokes to stay alive. :-( Not even
potted 2 year old plants from the nursery...

What conditions do you give them? I live in South Central Texas near
Austin.
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Peace! Om


The climate here is warm temperate but can be very hot in summer (100F
or
more
is fairly common) and cool in winter (around freezing) but it never
snows
or
freezes. Artichokes quite like the cooler months here but go backwards
when
it is very hot. They also dislike it when it is very dry and I have to
water
carefully then. The soil is heavy and fertile.

The flowers are also rather attactive but if you leave them go that
long I
would have to come and scold you for inattention and carelessness.

David

I'm guessing the mistake I made then was leaving them in a pot. ;-)

I'd rarely let flowers mature. Too tasty! ;-d

I would guess it would be a good time to call the Ag advisor, to ask
what you can do to remediate your garden to the likes of an artichoke.

Probably a good idea. I did also once try putting them in one of the
raised garden beds. They still died.

North side of the house tho', they might not have gotten enough
sunlight. I should probably amend one of the "free" areas up front in
the driveway and try some there.

With water restrictions it's tough. The only idea I had was for misting
on particularly hot days.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

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Billy wrote:

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Omelet wrote:

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,
Billy wrote:

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Omelet wrote:

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

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Globe artichokes, great geometric folliage for the ornamental
garden.

David

I've never been able to get artichokes to stay alive. :-( Not even
potted 2 year old plants from the nursery...

What conditions do you give them? I live in South Central Texas
near
Austin.
--
--

Peace! Om


The climate here is warm temperate but can be very hot in summer
(100F
or
more
is fairly common) and cool in winter (around freezing) but it never
snows
or
freezes. Artichokes quite like the cooler months here but go
backwards
when
it is very hot. They also dislike it when it is very dry and I have
to
water
carefully then. The soil is heavy and fertile.

The flowers are also rather attactive but if you leave them go that
long I
would have to come and scold you for inattention and carelessness.

David

I'm guessing the mistake I made then was leaving them in a pot. ;-)

I'd rarely let flowers mature. Too tasty! ;-d

I would guess it would be a good time to call the Ag advisor, to ask
what you can do to remediate your garden to the likes of an artichoke.

Probably a good idea. I did also once try putting them in one of the
raised garden beds. They still died.

North side of the house tho', they might not have gotten enough
sunlight. I should probably amend one of the "free" areas up front in
the driveway and try some there.

With water restrictions it's tough. The only idea I had was for misting
on particularly hot days.

Mm , good idea.

It needs to be kept wet then?
As a thistle, I was always afraid of overwatering them. Perhaps that is
what I did wrong???
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--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

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Omelet wrote:

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,
Billy wrote:

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,
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

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Globe artichokes, great geometric folliage for the ornamental
garden.

David

I've never been able to get artichokes to stay alive. :-( Not
even
potted 2 year old plants from the nursery...

What conditions do you give them? I live in South Central Texas
near
Austin.
--
--

Peace! Om


The climate here is warm temperate but can be very hot in summer
(100F
or
more
is fairly common) and cool in winter (around freezing) but it never
snows
or
freezes. Artichokes quite like the cooler months here but go
backwards
when
it is very hot. They also dislike it when it is very dry and I
have
to
water
carefully then. The soil is heavy and fertile.

The flowers are also rather attactive but if you leave them go that
long I
would have to come and scold you for inattention and carelessness.

David

I'm guessing the mistake I made then was leaving them in a pot. ;-)

I'd rarely let flowers mature. Too tasty! ;-d

I would guess it would be a good time to call the Ag advisor, to ask
what you can do to remediate your garden to the likes of an artichoke.

Probably a good idea. I did also once try putting them in one of the
raised garden beds. They still died.

North side of the house tho', they might not have gotten enough
sunlight. I should probably amend one of the "free" areas up front in
the driveway and try some there.

With water restrictions it's tough. The only idea I had was for misting
on particularly hot days.

Mm , good idea.

It needs to be kept wet then?
As a thistle, I was always afraid of overwatering them. Perhaps that is
what I did wrong???

Look at http://www.essortment.com/all/howtogrowarti_ozn.htm
My biggest problem with them was snail and slug predation. More
recently, it seems to be curiosity from our dogs and cats. A tomato
arbor and chicken wire fixed that:-)
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

I've thought about putting some onion in my mother's flower bed (more for
bug and pest control than anything else), but I've got my own garden to
tend. I did plant marigolds in my "edible" garden, though. They seemed
to have lots of positive things they did for the garden with very little
negative.

Breaking the rules? I guess, if you believe in pure flower and vegetable
gardens. Gardeners for years have planted flowers as companions to
vegetables.

We might still plant onion in the flower garden, if we start getting too
many pests...

I put garlic in my flower beds when they sprout, they help with
aphids, so I guess I forgot to include those.

I've also heard that marigolds are good companions for vegetables.
Plus, they'll attract bees and benificial insects.

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Globe artichokes, great geometric folliage for the ornamental
garden.

David

I've never been able to get artichokes to stay alive. :-( Not
even
potted 2 year old plants from the nursery...

What conditions do you give them? I live in South Central Texas
near
Austin.
--
--

Peace! Om


The climate here is warm temperate but can be very hot in summer
(100F
or
more
is fairly common) and cool in winter (around freezing) but it
never
snows
or
freezes. Artichokes quite like the cooler months here but go
backwards
when
it is very hot. They also dislike it when it is very dry and I
have
to
water
carefully then. The soil is heavy and fertile.

The flowers are also rather attactive but if you leave them go
that
long I
would have to come and scold you for inattention and carelessness.

David

I'm guessing the mistake I made then was leaving them in a pot. ;-)

I'd rarely let flowers mature. Too tasty! ;-d

I would guess it would be a good time to call the Ag advisor, to ask
what you can do to remediate your garden to the likes of an artichoke.

Probably a good idea. I did also once try putting them in one of the
raised garden beds. They still died.

North side of the house tho', they might not have gotten enough
sunlight. I should probably amend one of the "free" areas up front in
the driveway and try some there.

With water restrictions it's tough. The only idea I had was for misting
on particularly hot days.

Mm , good idea.

It needs to be kept wet then?
As a thistle, I was always afraid of overwatering them. Perhaps that is
what I did wrong???
--
--

It sounds like it to me. We often have hot dry summers and the 'chokes
struggle. This year we had a wet warm summer and they did fine while many
curcurbits, tomatos, etc suffered a multitude of fungal problems.

David

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Globe artichokes, great geometric folliage for the ornamental
garden.

David

I've never been able to get artichokes to stay alive. :-( Not
even
potted 2 year old plants from the nursery...

What conditions do you give them? I live in South Central
Texas
near
Austin.
--
--

Peace! Om


The climate here is warm temperate but can be very hot in summer
(100F
or
more
is fairly common) and cool in winter (around freezing) but it
never
snows
or
freezes. Artichokes quite like the cooler months here but go
backwards
when
it is very hot. They also dislike it when it is very dry and I
have
to
water
carefully then. The soil is heavy and fertile.

The flowers are also rather attactive but if you leave them go
that
long I
would have to come and scold you for inattention and
carelessness.

David

I'm guessing the mistake I made then was leaving them in a pot. ;-)

I'd rarely let flowers mature. Too tasty! ;-d

I would guess it would be a good time to call the Ag advisor, to ask
what you can do to remediate your garden to the likes of an
artichoke.

Probably a good idea. I did also once try putting them in one of the
raised garden beds. They still died.

North side of the house tho', they might not have gotten enough
sunlight. I should probably amend one of the "free" areas up front in
the driveway and try some there.

With water restrictions it's tough. The only idea I had was for misting
on particularly hot days.

Mm , good idea.

It needs to be kept wet then?
As a thistle, I was always afraid of overwatering them. Perhaps that is
what I did wrong???

Look at http://www.essortment.com/all/howtogrowarti_ozn.htm
My biggest problem with them was snail and slug predation. More
recently, it seems to be curiosity from our dogs and cats. A tomato
arbor and chicken wire fixed that:-)

Thanks for the link. :-)

Dark ale works best for me for slug predation. I don't have a problem
with snails. The two native species, to date, have caused no plant
damage. They are cleanup crew.

I have more of a problem with caterpillars but BT works for that.
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

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Globe artichokes, great geometric folliage for the ornamental
garden.

David

I've never been able to get artichokes to stay alive. :-( Not
even
potted 2 year old plants from the nursery...

What conditions do you give them? I live in South Central Texas
near
Austin.
--
--

Peace! Om


The climate here is warm temperate but can be very hot in summer
(100F
or
more
is fairly common) and cool in winter (around freezing) but it
never
snows
or
freezes. Artichokes quite like the cooler months here but go
backwards
when
it is very hot. They also dislike it when it is very dry and I
have
to
water
carefully then. The soil is heavy and fertile.

The flowers are also rather attactive but if you leave them go
that
long I
would have to come and scold you for inattention and carelessness.

David

I'm guessing the mistake I made then was leaving them in a pot. ;-)

I'd rarely let flowers mature. Too tasty! ;-d

I would guess it would be a good time to call the Ag advisor, to ask
what you can do to remediate your garden to the likes of an artichoke.

Probably a good idea. I did also once try putting them in one of the
raised garden beds. They still died.

North side of the house tho', they might not have gotten enough
sunlight. I should probably amend one of the "free" areas up front in
the driveway and try some there.

With water restrictions it's tough. The only idea I had was for misting
on particularly hot days.

Mm , good idea.

It needs to be kept wet then?
As a thistle, I was always afraid of overwatering them. Perhaps that is
what I did wrong???
--
--

It sounds like it to me. We often have hot dry summers and the 'chokes
struggle. This year we had a wet warm summer and they did fine while many
curcurbits, tomatos, etc suffered a multitude of fungal problems.

David

Time for me to give it another try. Thanks. :-)

I picked my first ripe plum tomato this morning. I planted a better boy
and a plum in one 30 gallon pot the first part of last November. I got
a few tomatoes in February. I had put the pot into the greenhouse to
protect it. The two vines are hyooge now and started setting about a
month ago. I'm hand fertilizing the blooms. I can do that with just two
plants. G

It really is time for me to move it out of there and re-stake it. It's
getting to be too big and falling over.
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson