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Squash vine borers
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, Bill wrote: In article , Billy wrote: In article , Charlie wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:52:26 -0500, "Katey Didd" wrote: Ironite......... Uh oh...ironite. Of course, if you are using Sevin, Ironite is likely of no concern to you. Care Charlie What Charlie is trying to say in his own inimitable way is the presence of heavy metals in Ironite(R) has resulted in its banning in Canada and lawsuits in the United States due to the potential release of heavy metals, most notably arsenic and lead. http://www.epa.gov/nrmrl/lrpcd/wm/projects/135367.htm and with respect to Sevin one Canadian environmental organization in a letter addressed to local citizens cites some of the 'documented' effects of carbaryl. 1. It causes birth defects in mammals, especially dogs. 2. It worsens the condition of people with hypertension and people on anti-depressant drugs. 3. It impairs the function of the pituitary gland, the thyroid gland, and the reproductive system. 4. It causes hyperactivity and learning disabilities in mammals. 5. It could increase the chance of heart attack in people with weak hearts. 6. The main break-down product, nitrosocarbaryl, which is easily created in the human gut, is a potent cancer-causing agent. 7. It causes irreversible chromosomal damage to human DNA (the genes in our cells). http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/facts-sl...bre-sevin.html At the veeeery least, Sevin is "extremely toxic" to bees. Spray or dust with Sevin and you'll be doing the pollination of your squash yourself or you won't have squash. Most of us in the gardening groups that ingest the plants we grow, are organic gardeners because, in part, we don't want to poison ourselves, or the environment. These two products seem imminently capable of doing both. Rest assured that you are not the first to propose them products and most assuredly, you won't be the last. Keep reading the posts here in rec.gardens and rec.gardens.edible, and check out some books from the library, you'll get the hang of it. Some titles that I would recommend: Any book by Rodale http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...ipbooks&field- keywords=Rodale&x=0&y=0 How to Grow More Vegetables and Fruits by John Jeavons http://www.amazon.com/How-Grow-More-...80087965/ref=s r_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210543192&sr=1-1 The Vegetable Gardener's Bible by Edward C. Smith http://www.amazon.com/Vegetable-Gard...Gardening/dp/1 580172121/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210543343&sr=1-1 The above are how-to books. The book below explains healthy (organic) soil. Teaming with Microbes by by Jeff Lowenfels &, Wayne Lewis http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microb.../dp/0881927775 /ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210542894&sr= 1-1 The book below tells us why we are organic. The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael Pollan http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dile...ls/dp/01430385 83/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210543426&sr=1-1 This is by no means a definitive list, and you will see other recommendations in the news groups, but these books are a good place to begin understanding your new hobby. I concur and think wow there is a lot to digest for young folks. If you are not a reader and get your info via main media this almost never shows up. No lobbyist I guess as no profiteering . Historically family garden info was passed on by show and tell and see results. I Think WW1 and WW2 disrupted this transfer of information in a subtle way. We started to accept info from outsiders who had a larger audience and were paid to display but had no contact with the microclimates we live in. Paranoid you bet! Marshall McLuhan come to this mind. Bill whose children never asked a question concerning growing things. Perhaps they think it is a given? I don't know. There was that "modern period" in America when, if it didn't come in plastic, it wasn't real food;-( We've gone from 1930 America, when 25% of Americans worked in agriculture, and there was a dissemination of information about food, to 2006 America with only 1.5% of Americans working in agriculture, and nobody knows nuthin' 'bout food, 'cept gardeners and ag advisors. -- Billy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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