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I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It
can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house
is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that.
The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not
accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and
the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are
right next to them, so far are fine.
I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not
having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the
terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in
two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall
when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out,
to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down
for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the
soil that was causing these wilting diseases.

Regards,
June

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:02:06 -0700 (PDT), June
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I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It
can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house
is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that.
The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not
accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and
the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are
right next to them, so far are fine.
I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not
having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the
terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in
two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall
when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out,
to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down
for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the
soil that was causing these wilting diseases.

Regards,
June


Possibly some sort of tunneling animal? I have one that is doing the
same thing. I haven't pulled it up yet to see what is going on. I
need to do that soon.
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Do you water with a hose? Is it possible the tomatoes got the first blast
from a hose-full of water that had been sitting in the sun? That can easily
get hot enough to wilt/kill plants, even when the weather is mild.

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:02:06 -0700 (PDT), June
wrote:

I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It
can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house
is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that.
The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not
accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and
the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are
right next to them, so far are fine.
I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not
having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the
terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in
two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall
when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out,
to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down
for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the
soil that was causing these wilting diseases.

Regards,
June


Possibly some sort of tunneling animal? I have one that is doing the
same thing. I haven't pulled it up yet to see what is going on. I
need to do that soon.



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June wrote:

I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It
can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house
is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that.
The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not
accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and
the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are
right next to them, so far are fine.
I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not
having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the
terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in
two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall
when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out,
to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down
for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the
soil that was causing these wilting diseases.

Regards,
June


You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or
bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is
fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes.

http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf

In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation.
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Billy wrote:

You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or
bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is
fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes.

http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf

In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation.
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When I had fungal root rot along my fence line in my English Ivy, the
local nursery sold me some soil sulphur, and some soil probiotics.
Instructions were to scatter the sulphur and water it in to kill the
fungus, then wait two weeks and water in the soil bacteria.

It worked.
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Omelet wrote:

In article
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Billy wrote:

You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or
bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is
fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes.

http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf

In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation.
--

Billy


When I had fungal root rot along my fence line in my English Ivy, the
local nursery sold me some soil sulphur, and some soil probiotics.
Instructions were to scatter the sulphur and water it in to kill the
fungus, then wait two weeks and water in the soil bacteria.

It worked.


If you read the PDFs from the Ag Extensions, you'll notice that nothing
was said about soil sulphur, and probiotics. I presume that you took in
a sample that was identified as fungal root rot. I'm glad it worked for
you. How much did the treatment cost and how much surface area did you
treat?
What do you think of the OP's intention to solarize her soil in order to
kill off her pest?
I hope the yarrow tea helped.
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In article
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Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or
bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is
fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes.

http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf
www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf

In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation.
--

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When I had fungal root rot along my fence line in my English Ivy, the
local nursery sold me some soil sulphur, and some soil probiotics.
Instructions were to scatter the sulphur and water it in to kill the
fungus, then wait two weeks and water in the soil bacteria.

It worked.


If you read the PDFs from the Ag Extensions, you'll notice that nothing
was said about soil sulphur, and probiotics. I presume that you took in
a sample that was identified as fungal root rot.


I took in a limp dying branch... So, yes more or less.

I'm glad it worked for
you. How much did the treatment cost and how much surface area did you
treat?


It was cheap. Under $20.00 and I treated about a 150 ft. fence line
about 1 ft. on either side of the fence. I took advice and products from
Gardenville. They are located about 5 blocks away.

What do you think of the OP's intention to solarize her soil in order to
kill off her pest?


Could not hurt. The sun is a universal disinfectant. Theoretically,
running water (as in streams) running under sunlight for 1 mile will
help purify water.

The fact that sulphur treatment kills fungus has come in handy for more
than just soil. Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well.
Better than some of the OTC crap they sell for that that does not work.
Garlic is VERY high in sulphur.

Makes me wonder if a heavy garlic treatment for fungal root rot might
work.

I hope the yarrow tea helped.


Yarrow is good for colds. :-)
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Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well.


I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best.
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Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well.


I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best.
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No, that's for urinary tract infections, not yeast infections...

I add cranberry juice to cocktails just because I like it. :-)

Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works
better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did,
pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best
friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of
garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her
as well.

Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche.

Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g
Like other foods, it's very medicinal.

Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread...
I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right.
Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They
seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's
cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to
grow them. :-(
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