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Steve Young wrote:
"Omelet" wrote:

Blanch and peel first. You could also stew them and can them as a
sauce. ;-d

Even turn them into ketchup. Anyone tried their hand at this?



Every gardener should make ketchup once in their life. You take a half
a bushel of fresh tomatoes, some vinegar and salt, and a bunch of
expensive sugar and spices. Cook them down for about 6 hours (Careful!
Don't let it burn!) When you're all done, you have a pint or two of
ketchup that's almost as good as the 20 ounce bottle of store-bought
ketchup you could have bought for about $1. HTH :-)

Bob

Ain't that the truth!
We tried our hand at it one year when we had a real glut of tomatoes
but, we ended up with about 12 liters, not one or two pints. And, like
you say, it was almost as good as store bought. The real saving grace
was the fact that a couple of the grandkids liked it better than the
store bought so we were able to unload a bunch.

you lot must either have really excellent supermarket tomato sauce or
really
crap recipes for making it yourself at home. I got a recipe from the guy
across the road this year & made some great tomato suace. Beats the store
bought crap hands down.

rob

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.

Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?

Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:17:37 +1200, George.com wrote:

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Steve Young wrote:
"Omelet" wrote:

Blanch and peel first. You could also stew them and can them as a
sauce. ;-d

Even turn them into ketchup. Anyone tried their hand at this?



Every gardener should make ketchup once in their life. You take a half
a bushel of fresh tomatoes, some vinegar and salt, and a bunch of
expensive sugar and spices. Cook them down for about 6 hours (Careful!
Don't let it burn!) When you're all done, you have a pint or two of
ketchup that's almost as good as the 20 ounce bottle of store-bought
ketchup you could have bought for about $1. HTH :-)

Bob

Ain't that the truth!
We tried our hand at it one year when we had a real glut of tomatoes
but, we ended up with about 12 liters, not one or two pints. And, like
you say, it was almost as good as store bought. The real saving grace
was the fact that a couple of the grandkids liked it better than the
store bought so we were able to unload a bunch.

you lot must either have really excellent supermarket tomato sauce or
really
crap recipes for making it yourself at home. I got a recipe from the guy
across the road this year & made some great tomato suace. Beats the store
bought crap hands down.

rob

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.

Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?

Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

Unless you are making home made low carb Ketchup/Catsup!
--
Peace! Om

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

Omelet wrote:
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AZ Nomad wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:17:37 +1200, George.com wrote:

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Steve Young wrote:
"Omelet" wrote:

Blanch and peel first. You could also stew them and can them as a
sauce. ;-d
Even turn them into ketchup. Anyone tried their hand at this?


Every gardener should make ketchup once in their life. You take a half
a bushel of fresh tomatoes, some vinegar and salt, and a bunch of
expensive sugar and spices. Cook them down for about 6 hours (Careful!
Don't let it burn!) When you're all done, you have a pint or two of
ketchup that's almost as good as the 20 ounce bottle of store-bought
ketchup you could have bought for about $1. HTH :-)

Bob
Ain't that the truth!
We tried our hand at it one year when we had a real glut of tomatoes
but, we ended up with about 12 liters, not one or two pints. And, like
you say, it was almost as good as store bought. The real saving grace
was the fact that a couple of the grandkids liked it better than the
store bought so we were able to unload a bunch.
you lot must either have really excellent supermarket tomato sauce or
really
crap recipes for making it yourself at home. I got a recipe from the guy
across the road this year & made some great tomato suace. Beats the store
bought crap hands down.

rob
I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.
Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?
Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

Unless you are making home made low carb Ketchup/Catsup!


That might be good, but it's not Ketchup. (Oddly enough, if you use
honey for the sweetener, it doesn't even meet the USDA definition of
ketchup and you have to call it something like "imitation ketchup".)

Bob

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zxcvbob wrote:

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.
Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference
between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato
sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?
Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

Unless you are making home made low carb Ketchup/Catsup!


That might be good, but it's not Ketchup. (Oddly enough, if you use
honey for the sweetener, it doesn't even meet the USDA definition of
ketchup and you have to call it something like "imitation ketchup".)

Bob

If I'm making it for my own use, I can call it whatever I want. g
--
Peace! Om

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.
Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference
between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato
sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?
Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.
Unless you are making home made low carb Ketchup/Catsup!

That might be good, but it's not Ketchup. (Oddly enough, if you use
honey for the sweetener, it doesn't even meet the USDA definition of
ketchup and you have to call it something like "imitation ketchup".)

Bob

If I'm making it for my own use, I can call it whatever I want. g


I call mine "Alfredo". I called everything I cook "Alfredo". (I
learned that from watching Olive Garden commercials.)

Think I'll go make myself a Bourbon Martini with an orange twist...

;-P

Bob

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zxcvbob wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.
Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference
between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato
sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?
Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.
Unless you are making home made low carb Ketchup/Catsup!

That might be good, but it's not Ketchup. (Oddly enough, if you use
honey for the sweetener, it doesn't even meet the USDA definition of
ketchup and you have to call it something like "imitation ketchup".)

Bob

If I'm making it for my own use, I can call it whatever I want. g


I call mine "Alfredo". I called everything I cook "Alfredo". (I
learned that from watching Olive Garden commercials.)

Think I'll go make myself a Bourbon Martini with an orange twist...

;-P

Bob

It's not a Martini unless...

Never mind. g
--
Peace! Om

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

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AZ Nomad wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:17:37 +1200, George.com wrote:

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Steve Young wrote:
"Omelet" wrote:

Blanch and peel first. You could also stew them and can them as a
sauce. ;-d

Even turn them into ketchup. Anyone tried their hand at this?



Every gardener should make ketchup once in their life. You take a half
a bushel of fresh tomatoes, some vinegar and salt, and a bunch of
expensive sugar and spices. Cook them down for about 6 hours (Careful!
Don't let it burn!) When you're all done, you have a pint or two of
ketchup that's almost as good as the 20 ounce bottle of store-bought
ketchup you could have bought for about $1. HTH :-)

Bob

Ain't that the truth!
We tried our hand at it one year when we had a real glut of tomatoes
but, we ended up with about 12 liters, not one or two pints. And, like
you say, it was almost as good as store bought. The real saving grace
was the fact that a couple of the grandkids liked it better than the
store bought so we were able to unload a bunch.

you lot must either have really excellent supermarket tomato sauce or
really
crap recipes for making it yourself at home. I got a recipe from the guy
across the road this year & made some great tomato suace. Beats the store
bought crap hands down.

rob

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.

Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?

Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

Sweet and sour tomato sauce for foods you don't wanna taste;O)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:17:37 +1200, George.com wrote:

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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:32:48 +1200, "George.com"
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news On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:53:19 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

Steve Young wrote:
"Omelet" wrote:

Blanch and peel first. You could also stew them and can them as a
sauce. ;-d

Even turn them into ketchup. Anyone tried their hand at this?



Every gardener should make ketchup once in their life. You take a
half
a bushel of fresh tomatoes, some vinegar and salt, and a bunch of
expensive sugar and spices. Cook them down for about 6 hours
(Careful!
Don't let it burn!) When you're all done, you have a pint or two of
ketchup that's almost as good as the 20 ounce bottle of store-bought
ketchup you could have bought for about $1. HTH :-)

Bob

Ain't that the truth!
We tried our hand at it one year when we had a real glut of tomatoes
but, we ended up with about 12 liters, not one or two pints. And, like
you say, it was almost as good as store bought. The real saving grace
was the fact that a couple of the grandkids liked it better than the
store bought so we were able to unload a bunch.

you lot must either have really excellent supermarket tomato sauce or
really
crap recipes for making it yourself at home. I got a recipe from the guy
across the road this year & made some great tomato suace. Beats the
store
bought crap hands down.

rob

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.

Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference
between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato
sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?

Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

Thats what we refer to as tomato sauce. Roy across the road gave me a great
recipe for tomato sauce involving sugar, vinegar and various spices. Very
nice stuff.

rob


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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:17:37 +1200, George.com wrote:

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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:32:48 +1200, "George.com"
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news On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:53:19 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

Steve Young wrote:
"Omelet" wrote:

Blanch and peel first. You could also stew them and can them as a
sauce. ;-d

Even turn them into ketchup. Anyone tried their hand at this?



Every gardener should make ketchup once in their life. You take a
half
a bushel of fresh tomatoes, some vinegar and salt, and a bunch of
expensive sugar and spices. Cook them down for about 6 hours
(Careful!
Don't let it burn!) When you're all done, you have a pint or two of
ketchup that's almost as good as the 20 ounce bottle of store-bought
ketchup you could have bought for about $1. HTH :-)

Bob

Ain't that the truth!
We tried our hand at it one year when we had a real glut of tomatoes
but, we ended up with about 12 liters, not one or two pints. And, like
you say, it was almost as good as store bought. The real saving grace
was the fact that a couple of the grandkids liked it better than the
store bought so we were able to unload a bunch.

you lot must either have really excellent supermarket tomato sauce or
really
crap recipes for making it yourself at home. I got a recipe from the guy
across the road this year & made some great tomato suace. Beats the
store
bought crap hands down.

rob

I was referring to making ketchup, not tomato sauce. There's a big
difference.

Tomato ketchup - tomato sauce. Never thought there was a difference
between
the two. Have a hamburger, a pie or some chips, put the tomato
sauce/ketchup
on them. What do you categorise the difference as?

Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

rob


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says...


Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

We would be if ketchup on the NA contintent didn't mean something that
resembles at least in texture if not necessarily taste, Heinz Ketchup.
--Unless you're creating something like it.

Ketchup used to mean "sauce" IIRC and could be quite varied in flavour
and ingredients. It didn't have to include tomatoes..

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:45:17 -0500, phorbin wrote:
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says...


Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

We would be if ketchup on the NA contintent didn't mean something that
resembles at least in texture if not necessarily taste, Heinz Ketchup.
--Unless you're creating something like it.

Ketchup used to mean "sauce" IIRC and could be quite varied in flavour
and ingredients. It didn't have to include tomatoes..


In the U.S. tomato sauce is basically nothing but tomato purried and
cooked down. It might have a very small amount of sweetener, but it
is very little and only added to make up for poor quality tomato.

If you substituted ketchup for any recipe that calls for tomato sauce,
you're going to have a discusting meal that can only be tossed in the
trash.

In article ,
AZ Nomad wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:45:17 -0500, phorbin wrote:
In article ,
says...


Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some
really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made
stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

We would be if ketchup on the NA contintent didn't mean something that
resembles at least in texture if not necessarily taste, Heinz Ketchup.
--Unless you're creating something like it.

Ketchup used to mean "sauce" IIRC and could be quite varied in flavour
and ingredients. It didn't have to include tomatoes..


In the U.S. tomato sauce is basically nothing but tomato purried and
cooked down. It might have a very small amount of sweetener, but it
is very little and only added to make up for poor quality tomato.

If you substituted ketchup for any recipe that calls for tomato sauce,
you're going to have a discusting meal that can only be tossed in the
trash.

Agreed... altho' the starving college student handbook has a recipe for
cream of tomato soup made from the free condiments you can get at most
fast food places. ;-)

Involves a cup of hot water, ketchup and coffee creamer packets.
--
Peace! Om

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

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Omelet wrote:

In article ,
AZ Nomad wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:45:17 -0500, phorbin wrote:
In article ,
says...


Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some
really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made
stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced
stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

We would be if ketchup on the NA contintent didn't mean something that
resembles at least in texture if not necessarily taste, Heinz Ketchup.
--Unless you're creating something like it.

Ketchup used to mean "sauce" IIRC and could be quite varied in flavour
and ingredients. It didn't have to include tomatoes..


In the U.S. tomato sauce is basically nothing but tomato purried and
cooked down. It might have a very small amount of sweetener, but it
is very little and only added to make up for poor quality tomato.

If you substituted ketchup for any recipe that calls for tomato sauce,
you're going to have a discusting meal that can only be tossed in the
trash.

Agreed... altho' the starving college student handbook has a recipe for
cream of tomato soup made from the free condiments you can get at most
fast food places. ;-)

Involves a cup of hot water, ketchup and coffee creamer packets.

Ps, I tried it just for grins one time at work...

and it works!
--
Peace! Om

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:10:16 -0500, Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
AZ Nomad wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:45:17 -0500, phorbin wrote:
In article ,
says...


Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some
really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made
stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced
stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

We would be if ketchup on the NA contintent didn't mean something that
resembles at least in texture if not necessarily taste, Heinz Ketchup.
--Unless you're creating something like it.

Ketchup used to mean "sauce" IIRC and could be quite varied in flavour
and ingredients. It didn't have to include tomatoes..


In the U.S. tomato sauce is basically nothing but tomato purried and
cooked down. It might have a very small amount of sweetener, but it
is very little and only added to make up for poor quality tomato.

If you substituted ketchup for any recipe that calls for tomato sauce,
you're going to have a discusting meal that can only be tossed in the
trash.

Agreed... altho' the starving college student handbook has a recipe for
cream of tomato soup made from the free condiments you can get at most
fast food places. ;-)

Involves a cup of hot water, ketchup and coffee creamer packets.

Ps, I tried it just for grins one time at work...

and it works!

I once made spanish rice using ketchup. I can recall few grosser
concoctions.

In article ,
"George.com" wrote:

Ketchup is saturated with sugar and has some vinegar too.

anyhow, we are both talking about the same thing but by different name.
Tomato sauce/tomato ketchup. As I said, you americans must have some really
good mass produced tomato ketchup if it is better than the home made stuff.
The two recipes I have used for tomato sauce beat the mass produced stuff,
the one recipe by some distance.

rob


Actually, Heintz is quite decent. I don't eat a lot of it, but I like
that brand quite a bit when I do...

If I make a cooked down "tomato sauce" for canning or freezing, it's
generally flavored Italian style, or sometimes made into a Salsa/Picante.
--
Peace! Om

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)