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Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I
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, Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. Deep to keep out the rabbits. Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. Maybe a moat? marcella |
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On Jul 16, 6:44*pm, Marcella Peek wrote:
In article , *Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. *Deep to keep out the rabbits. * Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. *Maybe a moat? marcella electric wire. It is only about 4 feet high but has worked like a charm this season. Not going to do much for rabbits unless you have one real close to the ground. We have 3 rows with one being the ground wire. Lowes or Home depot and we did it for less than $50.00. MJ |
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Marcella Peek wrote: In article , Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. Deep to keep out the rabbits. Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. Maybe a moat? marcella For groundhogs 6 inches to one foot deep - then one to two feet away from the fence. An "L" shape is needed. The critters go up to the fence then try to dig under the fence. They run into the wire and stop. Some groundhogs can dig three feet deep. Also for the high end it "may" be best not to secure the top 3 feet of that six foot fence, if the critters decide to climb it the top, the fence can droop back so they cannot climb it. Electric wire is cool too - change that - make it hot Just some thoughts - Fences are not cheap. It may be best to give the deer and critters what they want at the outer fringe of the garden. Shrubs can also make a cool looking fence, but it takes time. Some deer can jump a six foot fence. There are deer resistant plants as well. I prefer the dog myself Good thing you you don't have squirrels Enjoy Life ... Dan -- Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan. |
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On Jul 16, 10:07*pm, "Dan L." wrote:
For groundhogs 6 inches to one foot deep - then one to two feet away from the fence. An "L" shape is needed. The critters go up to the fence then try to dig under the fence. They run into the wire and stop. Some groundhogs can dig three feet deep. Also for the high end it "may" be best not to secure the top 3 feet of that six foot fence, if the critters decide to climb it the top, the fence can droop back so they cannot climb it. Electric wire is cool too - change that - make it hot So a groundhog will climb a fence? If so I will need to add another electric wire spaced for the groundhog. Right now I have installed a 3ft rabbit fence with electric wires at 4ft and 5ft. So far so good. Just some thoughts - Fences are not cheap. It may be best to give the deer and critters what they want at the outer fringe of the garden. The deer simply eat too much. Last year I had two dozen tomato plants and did not get a single tomato. |
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, Davej wrote: On Jul 16, 10:07*pm, "Dan L." wrote: For groundhogs 6 inches to one foot deep - then one to two feet away from the fence. An "L" shape is needed. The critters go up to the fence then try to dig under the fence. They run into the wire and stop. Some groundhogs can dig three feet deep. Also for the high end it "may" be best not to secure the top 3 feet of that six foot fence, if the critters decide to climb it the top, the fence can droop back so they cannot climb it. Electric wire is cool too - change that - make it hot So a groundhog will climb a fence? If so I will need to add another electric wire spaced for the groundhog. Right now I have installed a 3ft rabbit fence with electric wires at 4ft and 5ft. So far so good. I should have been clearer, other critters climb like squirrels and raccoons. Sounds like you have it covered. Just some thoughts - Fences are not cheap. It may be best to give the deer and critters what they want at the outer fringe of the garden. The deer simply eat too much. Last year I had two dozen tomato plants and did not get a single tomato. Its is possible to put wire cages around each plant. I do this with the lettuces and other smaller plants. Those wire hanging baskets placed upside down works to some degree also. There are several apple and pear trees away from the garden. The deer seem content to hangout by those trees and avoid the garden most of the time. That is until a few weeks from ThanksGiving I still prefer the Dog for critters. Chickens for the bugs one hour in the garden before closing them up at night. The wire baskets keep chickens from the lettuce. Enjoy life ... Dan -- Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan. |
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On Jul 16, 6:44*pm, Marcella Peek wrote:
In article , *Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. *Deep to keep out the rabbits. * Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. *Maybe a moat? marcella Netting will deter deer as will chicken wire. Need not be solid. Groundhogs are tough as they will burrow under. Hav-a-hart works well for groundhogs. |
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT), Frank
wrote: On Jul 16, 6:44*pm, Marcella Peek wrote: In article , *Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. *Deep to keep out the rabbits. * Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. *Maybe a moat? marcella Netting will deter deer as will chicken wire. Need not be solid. Groundhogs are tough as they will burrow under. Hav-a-hart works well for groundhogs. A 3 wire electric fence does a wonderful job of keeping the deer out. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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On Jul 20, 2:32*pm, The Cook wrote:
On 20 Jul 2009, Frank wrote: On Jul 16, 6:44*pm, Marcella Peek wrote: *Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. *Deep to keep out the rabbits. * Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. *Maybe a moat? Netting will deter deer as will chicken wire. *Need not be solid. Groundhogs are tough as they will burrow under. *Hav-a-hart works well for groundhogs. A 3 wire electric fence does a wonderful job of keeping the deer out. I like the idea of electric but I'm wondering if it will stop the deer or just cause a lot of wild thrashing once they have jumped into it? If I start with a 3ft rabbit fence and then run electric wires at 4ft, 5ft, and 6ft does anyone think that would be effective? Thanks. |
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"Davej" wrote in message
... On Jul 20, 2:32 pm, The Cook wrote: On 20 Jul 2009, Frank wrote: On Jul 16, 6:44 pm, Marcella Peek wrote: Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. Deep to keep out the rabbits. Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. Maybe a moat? Netting will deter deer as will chicken wire. Need not be solid. Groundhogs are tough as they will burrow under. Hav-a-hart works well for groundhogs. A 3 wire electric fence does a wonderful job of keeping the deer out. I like the idea of electric but I'm wondering if it will stop the deer or just cause a lot of wild thrashing once they have jumped into it? If I start with a 3ft rabbit fence and then run electric wires at 4ft, 5ft, and 6ft does anyone think that would be effective? Thanks. ----------- The deer have to touch the wire before they know not to enter. Deer normally don't jump over anything their body actually touches in their jump. They may investigate first by sight and smell, but not touch. 3 widely separated electrified wires may work as they may tend to go between the wires, rather than over it. Hopefully, they will bolt out of the garden, rather than into it. -- Dave |
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Frank wrote:
On Jul 16, 6:44 pm, Marcella Peek wrote: In article , Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. Deep to keep out the rabbits. Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. Maybe a moat? marcella Netting will deter deer as will chicken wire. Need not be solid. Groundhogs are tough as they will burrow under. Hav-a-hart works well for groundhogs. What do you use for bait for groundhogs? EJ in NJ |
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EJ Willson wrote: Frank wrote: On Jul 16, 6:44 pm, Marcella Peek wrote: In article , Davej wrote: Ok, I have rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. Please describe the fence I need around my garden. Serious question? Solid, at least 6 foot high to deter the deer who don't like to jump over when they can't see the other side. Deep to keep out the rabbits. Gee, I don't even know how deep you'd have to go for groundhogs. Maybe a moat? marcella Netting will deter deer as will chicken wire. Need not be solid. Groundhogs are tough as they will burrow under. Hav-a-hart works well for groundhogs. What do you use for bait for groundhogs? EJ in NJ Apple Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA http://prototype.nytimes.com/gst/articleSkimmer/ |
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What do you use for bait for groundhogs? EJ in NJ Cat food works for raccoons. |
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