In article ,
sherwin dubren wrote:

Billy wrote:

And your problem with seeking local, expert advice is . . . ?
Maybe if you gave yourself a good squirt of Imidan, you'd feel better
doo ;O)

Billygoat,

If I think I have an answer to a problem, I don't send people running
off to seek further help.

The original poster was very clear in describing the symptoms and even
sent a very clear picture of the malady. There was no question in my
mind that the problem is apple scab.

Why bother having a forum. Just build in a standard reply to all
poster problems to take it elsewhere to their local experts. If
nobody in this group had an inkling to an identification, sure it
might require a hands on examination, but that is not the case here.
I have also had problems getting information about fruit growing
problems from my local botanic garden. Most have little or no
background in fruit trees. I have sometimes received help from
a university researcher, but it was not easy to reach him.

Again, I repeat, you never send people off to 'experts' with things
you supposedly are knowledgeable, like vegetables. You have some
compulsion to give advice, even if it something you know nothing
about.

As for spraying, what do you propose to fix this problem, if it is
indeed apple scab. Maybe some organic fairy dust?

By the way, there are organic sprays for fruits. In this case, she
could use copper sulfate as a fungicide and this is organic. I think
you are the one with Imidan on the brain.

Sherwin

Still FUBARED, Doo? Doing that doo, Doo, that you doo so well?

So what is your degree in, Doo? Upon what do you decide that your
guesstimates don't require a review by professionals? Even if you were a
professional, most don't feel as threatened as you do with a second
opinion. Why don't we give posters the full range of options, instead of
just the world according to Doo?

Hell, give yourself 2 squirts ;O)
--

- Billy

Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common denominator in our exploitative economic system.* ~Channing E. Phillips

Israeli Settlers Attack Palestinian Land
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So what is your degree in, Doo? Upon what do you decide that your
guesstimates don't require a review by professionals? Even if you were a
professional, most don't feel as threatened as you do with a second
opinion. Why don't we give posters the full range of options, instead of
just the world according to Doo?

Hell, give yourself 2 squirts ;O)

Billygoat,

You are a fool not worth exchanging a logical arguement with.

Sherwin

In article ,
sherwin dubren wrote:


So what is your degree in, Doo? Upon what do you decide that your
guesstimates don't require a review by professionals? Even if you were a
professional, most don't feel as threatened as you do with a second
opinion. Why don't we give posters the full range of options, instead of
just the world according to Doo?

Hell, give yourself 2 squirts ;O)

Billygoat,

You are a fool not worth exchanging a logical arguement with.

Sherwin

Yes Doo, just a fool who wants more than just a doodoo opinion. A man,
or goat for that matter, who dreams of having as many opinions to choose
from as he wants, so that he can pick the one best for him.

Yes Doo, it's the dawning of a new day, where one, man or goat, is free
to breath the fresh air of choice again.

Well, it looks like my work here is done, buckaroos. Tune in next time
to hear Bill Goat Gruff say."Doo's doodoo looks like Shelly. Is this
what they mean by defecation of character? Is it a clue?"

See ya.
--

- Billy

Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common denominator in our exploitative economic system.* ~Channing E. Phillips

Israeli Settlers Attack Palestinian Land
http://i2.democracynow.org/2009/7/22/headlines#7


http://i2.democracynow.org/2009/7/22/headlines#7

Billy wrote:

Well, it looks like my work here is done, buckaroos. Tune in next time
to hear Bill Goat Gruff say."Doo's doodoo looks like Shelly. Is this
what they mean by defecation of character? Is it a clue?"

See ya.

If you think you won anything, you are delusional. I'm just tired
or arguing with an idiot.

Sherwin

In article ,
sherwin dubren wrote:

Billy wrote:

Well, it looks like my work here is done, buckaroos. Tune in next time
to hear Bill Goat Gruff say."Doo's doodoo looks like Shelly. Is this
what they mean by defecation of character? Is it a clue?"

See ya.

If you think you won anything, you are delusional. I'm just tired
or arguing with an idiot.

Sherwin


Just doing that doo, Doo that you do so well? No one said you are wrong.
'Course no expert has said that you are right. The pivotal issue here
was having a selection of opinions from which to chose. When we respond,
we either offer our experience, our hunches, or some algorithm to solve
the question (like ask a local expert).

Let's take a little walk down memory lane.

Master Gardener's Program in Klamath Falls (Lilah lives in Klamath
County) 883-7131, http://oregonstate.edu/dept/kbrec/
- Billy

Here we go again with Billy's sending people off to the Universities
and Extension Centers. This may work for him, since his knowledge of
fruit trees is very limited. Notice Billy does this kind of
shuffling people off on fruit issues, but not on vegetable gardening
where supposedly he has more knowledge.

Sherwin

You seem to think that there is only one way to answer a question, your
way.

Good luck,
Billy, you don't seem to have any suggestions. You probably wouldn't
know a fruit tree from a fire plug.

Sherwin

And what has that to do with solving Lilah's problem? Do you see a
problem with seeking local help, doo?
--

- Billy

Billy wrote:

And your problem with seeking local, expert advice is . . . ?
Maybe if you gave yourself a good squirt of Imidan, you'd feel better
doo ;O)

Billygoat,

If I think I have an answer to a problem, I don't send people running
off to seek further help.

The original poster was very clear in describing the symptoms and even
sent a very clear picture of the malady. There was no question in my
mind that the problem is apple scab.

Why bother having a forum. Just build in a standard reply to all
poster problems to take it elsewhere to their local experts. If
nobody in this group had an inkling to an identification, sure it
might require a hands on examination, but that is not the case here.
[So you had a inkling, end of discussion?]
. . .
As for spraying, what do you propose to fix this problem, if it is
indeed apple scab. Maybe some organic fairy dust?

Why the attitude when in the next line you mention copper sulfate? But
the real question is, what do you spray, if you do, when you still
haven't conclusively identified the problem? Why spend money, until you
know what you are doing?

You have made this whole discussion a referendum on your authority, not
on providing Lilah with means for solving the problem that she is having
with her apples.

If you act like a fool Doo. People will treat you as one.

If indeed the problem is apple scab, and the method used to combat it is
copper sulfate, it will not reflect well on you, and how you chose to
limit her choices. Even you have admitted, that you await the decision
of the authorities on the matter. That's what happens when you are 3,000
mi. away.
--

- Billy

Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common denominator in our exploitative economic system.* ~Channing E. Phillips

Israeli Settlers Attack Palestinian Land
http://i2.democracynow.org/2009/7/22/headlines#7


http://i2.democracynow.org/2009/7/22/headlines#7