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Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes.

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Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?



Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.
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Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?



Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.
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Is this the new product that is basically corn gluten?


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The Cook wrote:

On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?



Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.


Why not use newsprint and mulch to suppress weeds? It works well for me,
and keeps the worms happy.



"The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." - Anon
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:49:00 -0700, Billy wrote:

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The Cook wrote:

On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?



Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.


Why not use newsprint and mulch to suppress weeds? It works well for me,
and keeps the worms happy.



"The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." - Anon


The mulch distributor suggested Preen when I told him that the horse
bedding mulch that I bought from him last year was full of pokeweed seeds.
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In article ,
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:49:00 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article ,
The Cook wrote:

On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.


Why not use newsprint and mulch to suppress weeds? It works well for me,
and keeps the worms happy.



"The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." - Anon


The mulch distributor suggested Preen when I told him that the horse
bedding mulch that I bought from him last year was full of pokeweed seeds.


The mulch distributor told you that the mulch was full of pokeweed
seeds? And this year, what's his prognostication on the pokeweed
content? I suspect that newsprint is cheaper than Preen oil. Worst case
scenario is that you add young pokeweed leaves to your salads, along
with the dandelions, or serve them like spinach.
http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Phytolacca%20americana
http://www.holisticonline.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h284.htm

I just paid $18 for a bale of alfalfa. That's a little pricey, but it
will hold down the newsprint, and last me all season long.


In his garden every man may be his own artist without apology or
explanation.
--Â*Â*Louise Beebe Wilder
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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953
http://wn.com/black_panther_party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

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In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:49:00 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article ,
The Cook wrote:

On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.

Why not use newsprint and mulch to suppress weeds? It works well for me,
and keeps the worms happy.



"The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." - Anon


The mulch distributor suggested Preen when I told him that the horse
bedding mulch that I bought from him last year was full of pokeweed seeds.


The mulch distributor told you that the mulch was full of pokeweed
seeds? And this year, what's his prognostication on the pokeweed
content? I suspect that newsprint is cheaper than Preen oil. Worst case
scenario is that you add young pokeweed leaves to your salads, along
with the dandelions, or serve them like spinach.
http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Phytolacca%20americana
http://www.holisticonline.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h284.htm

I just paid $18 for a bale of alfalfa. That's a little pricey, but it
will hold down the newsprint, and last me all season long.


In his garden every man may be his own artist without apology or
explanation.
--Â*Â*Louise Beebe Wilder


Like a few other plants we eat are not poke weed berries toxic similar
to rhubarbs leaves or the nightshade family?

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Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden

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On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:11:13 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article ,
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:49:00 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article ,
The Cook wrote:

On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it
anywhere you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have
sprouted. I am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my
tomato plants are going.

Why not use newsprint and mulch to suppress weeds? It works well for
me, and keeps the worms happy.



"The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." - Anon


The mulch distributor suggested Preen when I told him that the horse
bedding mulch that I bought from him last year was full of pokeweed
seeds.


The mulch distributor told you that the mulch was full of pokeweed
seeds? And this year, what's his prognostication on the pokeweed
content? I suspect that newsprint is cheaper than Preen oil. Worst case
scenario is that you add young pokeweed leaves to your salads, along
with the dandelions, or serve them like spinach.
http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Phytolacca%20americana
http://www.holisticonline.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h284.htm


I told him that it was full of pokeweed. Here is a description of what I
used last year for the website of the distributor,

"It's base ingredient is horse bedding (wood shavings) from local horse
farms. Other ingredients included in the product are manure, hay, grain,
grasses, leaves, other organic material."

I had incredible yields last year, the first year that I used the stuff,
but I also had a lot a pokeweed that I had to pull. Pokeweed is poisonous
to humans unless you boil it several times, but I think horses like it
which would explain how the seeds got into the mulch.

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"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:49:00 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article ,
The Cook wrote:

On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.

Why not use newsprint and mulch to suppress weeds? It works well for
me,
and keeps the worms happy.



"The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." - Anon


The mulch distributor suggested Preen when I told him that the horse
bedding mulch that I bought from him last year was full of pokeweed
seeds.


The mulch distributor told you that the mulch was full of pokeweed
seeds? And this year, what's his prognostication on the pokeweed
content? I suspect that newsprint is cheaper than Preen oil. Worst case
scenario is that you add young pokeweed leaves to your salads, along
with the dandelions, or serve them like spinach.


DO NOT USE RAW POKE WEED LEAVES FOR ANYTHING!!!
They are poisonous!! Poke requires a very special preparation to be edible.

http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Phytolacca%20americana
http://www.holisticonline.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h284.htm

I just paid $18 for a bale of alfalfa. That's a little pricey, but it
will hold down the newsprint, and last me all season long.


How many bales to cover 5000 sq ft? How many newspapers?
It's a great idea, but not feasible for a large garden.


In his garden every man may be his own artist without apology or
explanation.
--Â Â Louise Beebe Wilder


I agree and will use my new tiller without apology to anyone.

- Billy
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius
of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at
all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on
a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953
http://wn.com/black_panther_party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug





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On Apr 7, 12:11*pm, Billy wrote:


On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:49:00 -0700, Billy wrote:

... scenario is that you add young pokeweed leaves to your salads, along

with the dandelions, or serve them like spinach.

Eating Poke??? I have eaten a lot of Poke Salet, but admittedly never raw.


How does it taste billy?
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On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph

wrote:
Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. *Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. *Wait until after they have sprouted. *I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.
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How expensive is it? Where can you buy it?
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On Apr 7, 8:43 am, The Cook wrote:
On 6 Apr 2011 20:25:11 GMT, General Schvantzkoph

wrote:
Has anyone used Preen? It claims to stop weeds, does it work?


Yes, but make sure you follow the instructions. Don't put it anywhere
you are going to plant seeds. Wait until after they have sprouted. I
am thinking about putting it down pretty soon where my tomato plants
are going.
--
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North Carolina Foothills
USDA Zone 7a


How expensive is it? Where can you buy it?


Better to use a hoe around the veggies than some chemical that you might be
consuming. Most weed killers kill dicots like dandelions and tomato plants
are dicots also. Read the label if putting around food stuff to make sure
"they" say it is safe?

Its cheaper than the weed-in-feed stuff and available everywhere, local
hardware stores and garden centers. Some say it is better to use weed
killers first, like preen, and then a few weeks later the fertilizers
separately. The weed-in-feed Stuff can help the weeds grow as well and cost
more than if you purchase the weed killer, like preen and fertilizers
separately.

However, your going to put yourself in the chemical trap. The stuff is
probably not good for your soil. Those weed chemicals also kill the good
bugs like worms and spiders. When the good bugs are gone then the flying
bad bugs move in like the Japanese beetles and their offspring the grubs.
Then your going to want to use more chemicals to get rid off the grubs. If
you use the chemicals you will have a beautiful lawn for a few years, then
each year later the soil and the lawn starts to look worse and worse as the
years go by.

I find the best way to help reduce the weeds is by bagging your grass in
the spring. Spring is the time for weeds to grow. Simply mowing the yard
just spreads the weeds in the grass, so bag the grass and compost it. Then
late spring to mid summer let the grass grow tall and let the grass go to
seed. Then mow the yard without bagging. This helps your grass get thicker
and better. In the fall aerate the yard. Spread some fine compost if you
like in the fall. This method is cheaper but more labor intensive. With the
organic method above you will not have the best looking yard but it will
look better after many years go by from using the chemicals.

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I'll more directly answer your question, without chasing rabbits....

I'm using it for the first time this year & so far it seems to work very
well. It's still early, so I only have onion sets & cabbage in the ground,
but nary a weed is popping up. Yes, follow the directions.

OK, I'll chase the rabbit a little bit. I do mulch my veggie garden with
tons of leaves & grass clippings, but the weeds still take over if you give
them half a chance.

Robert

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