"Snag" wrote:

And so you see Nad why I quit responding . Methinks the Billy doth protest
too much ...

Billy is just fine. He has a right to express his views. Each of us was
born with a certain personality type. Over the years, I believe I can state
with some confidence that...

Billy is an Ideallist, he has an insight to people's soul, the romantic,
the keeper of morals and they they tend to be critical of others.

David S. Hare is a Guardian, Protector of institutions, seeks security and
always true to faith. Probably gets angry if one rejects his advice...

I am a Rational, live by logic and reason, seeks knowledge and a very
strong skeptic with a bit of pessimism. Some would say I have a cold and
emotionless personality.

There is the Artisan, not sure if any are here. They tend to seek personal
pleasure.

All personality types are needed. Ones reasoning, ones insight, ones
action, one creation can change the view and way doing things in others.

It is that generalization and categorization in me

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article , dude
says...

I am a Rational, live by logic and reason, seeks knowledge and a very
strong skeptic with a bit of pessimism. Some would say I have a cold and
emotionless personality.

If you live up to your opinion of yourself, you will challenge your own
prejudices and not leave it for others to challenge them for you.

phorbin wrote:
In article , dude
says...

I am a Rational, live by logic and reason, seeks knowledge and a very
strong skeptic with a bit of pessimism. Some would say I have a cold and
emotionless personality.

If you live up to your opinion of yourself, you will challenge your own
prejudices and not leave it for others to challenge them for you.

I always question my premises. If I and others find flaws in those
premises, I will most certainly change those presuppositions. Like I said I
do not like living with contradictions or paradoxes.

The problem with more controversial views, is that it is very difficult to
find those flaws in reasoning without debate. When others will just simply
reject them without reason and use threats, I tend to dismiss them. I use
to be a Christian and went to church every week, now I am an atheist,
because I listened to others and they made sense. As an atheist I have had
threats in the past. Some people just do not like others if they do fit in
their belief of what is the norm. I have had hundreds of debates with
Christians, they are crawling everywhere on the Campus of Wayne State
trying to convert others. I have read back to back, the king James, NIV and
the standard bible along with many supplementary books to learn the truth.
To learn the truth on must unfold the contradictions and they are many.

When people use violence to make their point, it is best to avoid them.
They do not like their beliefs to be challenged or have their faith
questioned. And they always want you to conform what they believe is right.
But then how does one know the truth? But sometimes trying to figure out
the truth can be a dangerous game when it comes to a belief or life style.

Now when people preach by the sword or prison like some other countries. I
will most certainly change my belief or what I say regardless. To live is
the highest priority. But our society is leaning towards limiting what
people say and do here in the US.

Free speech is coming to an end and I will abide by the laws of the land.

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article , dude
says...

I am a Rational, live by logic and reason, seeks knowledge and a very
strong skeptic with a bit of pessimism. Some would say I have a cold and
emotionless personality.

Since my earlier post seems to have black-holed...

From what you've said so far, you sound illogical, unreasoning and
driven by old fears. Your experiences with black people may have been
bad but your conclusions about their race only make sense in a dark,
overly personal, emotional way.

Why not challenge your biases, prejudices and fear yourself before
handing them to others to challenge.

phorbin wrote:
In article , dude
says...

I am a Rational, live by logic and reason, seeks knowledge and a very
strong skeptic with a bit of pessimism. Some would say I have a cold and
emotionless personality.

Since my earlier post seems to have black-holed...

From what you've said so far, you sound illogical, unreasoning and
driven by old fears. Your experiences with black people may have been
bad but your conclusions about their race only make sense in a dark,
overly personal, emotional way.

Why not challenge your biases, prejudices and fear yourself before
handing them to others to challenge.

Fear is a major factor. Hearing gun fire almost every night in the city
should scare most people. I like the serenity of the country and feel at
peace. What is the reason behind all of this violence? I have a hard time
believing that poverty is the main cause. I have visited relatives in the
deep south that was dirt poor, teeth rotting, little food, homes that have
no electricity and heat with wood and outhouses. But I saw little crime and
did not feel threatened.

What parts are illogical in what I have said? I try to to challenge myself
often, but sometimes it needs a different point of view that others may
have insights on.

Billy is an example, I used chemical fertilizers and bug sprays often. What
he said about using these chemicals made sense. Gave me a list of books to
read to expand my knowledge. Books I would have never uncovered myself.
Learning new ways of thinking often comes from others. That is why I like
Billy, he challenges one. But it must come with reason and not threats. He
has never used threats even on off topics like the economy.

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)