I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?


Is this to help the birds to cool their little throats during a tomato
feast? The question is a fraction unclear.

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Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

They'll use it to wash the tomatoes down ...

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Snag

On 7/29/2014 7:29 AM, Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

Probably not, have had that problem before and Cardinals were after the
seeds. Had a bird bath back then and kept it full.

Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the
garden. Will that help?

a bowl may not be very attractive to birds,
they often like broad shallow puddles for
bathing or drinking. if you do have a bird
bath they'll prefer one that is broad and
shallow with an edge they can grip in their
feet.

we've not experienced birds eating the
tomatoes that often, we have bird baths,
but they are not in the gardens near the
tomatoes. the only thing we want them to
be attracted to the gardens is for getting
the bugs. so we do not feed the birds here
other than what the plants drop as seeds
and the bugs.

we had a few extra tomato plants this
year and put them outside the fenced garden
and they are near one of the bird baths.
the deer have munched on a few of them
already coming in to get a drink. it will
be interesting to see if we get any kind
of harvest from those plants this year.
last year we had a few tomato plants in
about the same area but the deer and birds
left them alone other than using them as a
spot to perch.


songbird

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29:46 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?


So far it has not helped, so I am picking tomatoes when they are pink and letting them ripen on the windowsill.

On 7/31/2014 12:09 PM, Davej wrote:
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29:46 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?


So far it has not helped, so I am picking tomatoes when they are pink and letting them ripen on the windowsill.


Original post unclear.
Do you want birds in your tomatoes?
If so, putting something there to attract them will just bring more in.

On 7/29/2014 10:54 AM, songbird wrote:
Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the
garden. Will that help?

a bowl may not be very attractive to birds,
they often like broad shallow puddles for
bathing or drinking. if you do have a bird
bath they'll prefer one that is broad and
shallow with an edge they can grip in their
feet.

we've not experienced birds eating the
tomatoes that often, we have bird baths,
but they are not in the gardens near the
tomatoes. the only thing we want them to
be attracted to the gardens is for getting
the bugs. so we do not feed the birds here
other than what the plants drop as seeds
and the bugs.

we had a few extra tomato plants this
year and put them outside the fenced garden
and they are near one of the bird baths.
the deer have munched on a few of them
already coming in to get a drink. it will
be interesting to see if we get any kind
of harvest from those plants this year.
last year we had a few tomato plants in
about the same area but the deer and birds
left them alone other than using them as a
spot to perch.


songbird

I've experienced Cardinals, aka Redbirds, pecking tomatoes to get to the
seeds. Mockingbirds here devastate the fig crop if not netted but also
get into the gardens looking for bugs to eat. Have not seen a cardinal
here but would like to know what bird eats stink bugs, would import those.

We have lots of herons, cranes, and the occasional duck into the
retention pond behind our house. Every morning and evening the swallows
and martins are whizzing around out there getting mosquitoes and other
insects. The night crew is little brown bats and frogs. Most of which
are helpful.

Have started seeing deer tracks along the dirt road around the pond
area. Grandson lives down the street and has a children's play fort by
his back fence. Might make a good deer stand with bow and arrow. G

Been gardening the better part of sixty years, no matter what you do the
bugs and critters are going to get their share, might as well enjoy
watching them work.

George

Davej wrote:
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29:46 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?


So far it has not helped, so I am picking tomatoes when they are pink
and letting them ripen on the windowsill.

I am still wondering how the water bowl was supposed to help.

Net them. You can buy polymer bird netting quite cheaply and it will last
for years unless you have attackers with sharp teeth like possums. You
don't need a fancy trellis just drape it over and re settle it when you work
on the plants.

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David

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On Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:44:39 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
On 7/31/2014 12:09 PM, Davej wrote:
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29:46 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

So far it has not helped, so I am picking tomatoes when
they are pink and letting them ripen on the windowsill.


Original post unclear.

Do you want birds in your tomatoes?
If so, putting something there to attract them will just bring more in.

My question was whether they were pecking the tomato for the moisture because they were too lazy to fly up to the normal birdwater location.

George Shirley wrote:
Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

Probably not, have had that problem before and Cardinals were after the
seeds. Had a bird bath back then and kept it full.

interesting, we've had many cardinals here over
the years and i've never noticed them paying any
attention at all to the tomatoes.


songbird

On 8/1/2014 8:39 AM, Davej wrote:
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:44:39 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
On 7/31/2014 12:09 PM, Davej wrote:
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29:46 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

So far it has not helped, so I am picking tomatoes when
they are pink and letting them ripen on the windowsill.


Original post unclear.

Do you want birds in your tomatoes?
If so, putting something there to attract them will just bring more in.

My question was whether they were pecking the tomato for the moisture because they were too lazy to fly up to the normal birdwater location.


I'm not a bird expert and have never seen them pecking my tomatoes and
there is no water source within several hundred yards.

Once I had a problem with Japanese beetles on my grape vines and hung a
trap on the vines. Damage was worse as more beetles were attracted in.

If birds are a problem you don't want to attract more of them so put the
water source far away. I suspect birds are not your problem unless you
have seen them doing it.

songbird said:
George Shirley wrote:
Davej wrote:
I put a bowl of water out there in the garden. Will that help?

Probably not, have had that problem before and Cardinals were after the
seeds. Had a bird bath back then and kept it full.

interesting, we've had many cardinals here over
the years and i've never noticed them paying any
attention at all to the tomatoes.

Sometimes a bird or animal will accidentally discover something
to its advantage but not to yours. For instance, the rabbit that
somehow figured out how to topple my lilies to get to the tender
buds up top. Or the cardinal that figured out how to pull the
corn sprouts to get to the kernel. (I watched it happen.) I netted
all my corn plantings for several years after that, and finally skipped
it again last spring with no losses.


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Pat Kiewicz wrote:
....
Sometimes a bird or animal will accidentally discover something
to its advantage but not to yours. For instance, the rabbit that
somehow figured out how to topple my lilies to get to the tender
buds up top. Or the cardinal that figured out how to pull the
corn sprouts to get to the kernel. (I watched it happen.) I netted
all my corn plantings for several years after that, and finally skipped
it again last spring with no losses.

sure, there's always the self-starters
which make life interesting...


songbird

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