"T" wrote in message ...
On 04/15/2016 04:15 AM, Wolf Phan wrote:
'T[_4_ Wrote:
;1018930']'Vinegar Weed Killer: Grandma's Recipe For Fast Weed Control'
(http://tinyurl.com/lkeudq)

Damn things see to enjoy being sprayed.

What am I doing wrong?

I am using the 5% stuff. Can't find the 20% stuff

Using only vinegar is better than combine with soap.
There are 3 vinegars you should use. You can check here for more
information:


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would you resend?


I found if I pour straight 6% on the weed that it messes up
the weed, but does not kill it. It is also really expensive
to use a cup of vinegar per weed

I got some 20% coming from Amazon.

What is your opinion of adding salt to the mixture?



According to our gardening gurus
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s3683147.htm a cup, 250ml, to a
litre of vinegar does the trick they also offer some other tips, only one of
which I have tried, Sheet solarisation, and living in the West of Australia
with plenty of sun and very little rain I found this to be very effective.

Mike

Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
"T" wrote in message
...
On 04/15/2016 04:15 AM, Wolf Phan wrote:
'T[_4_ Wrote:
;1018930']'Vinegar Weed Killer: Grandma's Recipe For Fast Weed
Control' (http://tinyurl.com/lkeudq)

Damn things see to enjoy being sprayed.

What am I doing wrong?

I am using the 5% stuff. Can't find the 20% stuff

Using only vinegar is better than combine with soap.
There are 3 vinegars you should use. You can check here for more
information:


The field '1bb8feffed6e2f161d9fb34c1b4cda2b' was not recognised.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

would you resend?


I found if I pour straight 6% on the weed that it messes up
the weed, but does not kill it. It is also really expensive
to use a cup of vinegar per weed

I got some 20% coming from Amazon.

What is your opinion of adding salt to the mixture?



According to our gardening gurus
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s3683147.htm a cup, 250ml, to
a litre of vinegar does the trick they also offer some other tips,
only one of which I have tried, Sheet solarisation, and living in the
West of Australia with plenty of sun and very little rain I found
this to be very effective.
Mike

I've had a major part of my garden under plastic for several weeks now to
kill out the grass . I realized very early this spring that tilling was just
burying the grass seed to sprout later . Last year's heavy straw mulch
helped a lot , that in combination with the plastic might give me a chance
to get ahead of it and other unwanted growth . Of course that isn't an
option with the strawberry beds , I'm planning a vinegar douche there , in
hopes that it will give the strawberries a chance to shade out some of the
weeds/grasses .

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Snag

Terry Coombs wrote:
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I've had a major part of my garden under plastic for several weeks now to
kill out the grass .

it can take a few years to kill off the energy
stored in roots and the soil seed bank can be
viable for many years (varies by species).

mulch and cardboard layers will last a few years.

some plants need warmer soil to sprout or grow well
but once they are up and growing you can go along and
mulch around them and put cardboard in the rows and
then mulch on top of that.


I realized very early this spring that tilling was just
burying the grass seed to sprout later . Last year's heavy straw mulch
helped a lot ,

yes, by keeping sunlight and warmth from the top layer
of the soil you've reduced the number of seeds that will
be able to germinate.


that in combination with the plastic might give me a chance
to get ahead of it and other unwanted growth . Of course that isn't an
option with the strawberry beds , I'm planning a vinegar douche there , in
hopes that it will give the strawberries a chance to shade out some of the
weeds/grasses .

my strawberry beds get mulched with wood chips and hand
weeded, but after a few years they need to be renovated
anyways. after a few seasons i selectively smother about
1/3 of the plants and then let the surrounding plants
grow into the mulch. by the time the mulch has broken
down enough and the new plants are established the old
ones can then be smothered. i use a mix of wood chips and
partially decayed wood chips.

i also grow cover crops to help shade the plants during
the hot summer months in spots. these then become mulch.
beans/peas/soybeans/buckwheat, not too thick.


songbird