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Hi All,

I am involved in a holy ware against the weeds again
this year.

The past two years, I though that if I just picked the
weed and dropped in in place, the it would stop them
from seeding.

Well, It is worse than ever this year. Apparently, when
you pull the weed, whatever it has left in it puts its
effort into seeding. Now I have four times as much cheat
grass! Poop!

This years I pull them and stick them into a bag for
disposal. So far, two big garbage bags full of cheat
Grass and others.

Death to weeds!

-T

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T wrote:
Hi All,

I am involved in a holy ware against the weeds again
this year.

The past two years, I though that if I just picked the
weed and dropped in in place, the it would stop them
from seeding.

Well, It is worse than ever this year. Apparently, when
you pull the weed, whatever it has left in it puts its
effort into seeding. Now I have four times as much cheat
grass! Poop!

This years I pull them and stick them into a bag for
disposal. So far, two big garbage bags full of cheat
Grass and others.

Death to weeds!


some plants are different, you gotta know the life
cycle to be effective. some plants you can pull as
they are flowering and they won't be able to ripen
the seed fast enough. others will persist and get
ripe enough seeds to continue. so it sounds like
cheat grass is one that you have to target earlier
to control it.

the best defense against weeds is a good offense,
plant radishes, turnips, buckwheat and any other
cover crops you can get going so that there are fewer
hospitable places for them to use.

ah, ok, i looked it up, it is an annual, but you
have to get it early (in the fall/winter before spring).

get a stirrup hoe and scrape the ground a few times
when you see it coming up. no plant will survive that.
you don't even have to (nor do you want to in many
cases) disturb the soil much. just skim it along the
surface to chop it off.

now that you have a seed bank established it will
take several years of consistent effort to get rid
of it. i know how that goes, i have something called
speedwell here which is annoying and a perennial.
very cute blue flowers, but the smell of it when
weeding it gets my nose running really bad so i now
remove it on sight. it's all over the place though.
it will be years before i have a chance of getting
rid of it. make a good dent each year but the lawn
mower and some lack of weeding means it can still
get spread around.


songbird
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On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 1:09:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am involved in a holy ware against the weeds again
this year.

The past two years, I though that if I just picked the
weed and dropped in in place, the it would stop them
from seeding.

Well, It is worse than ever this year. Apparently, when
you pull the weed, whatever it has left in it puts its
effort into seeding. Now I have four times as much cheat
grass! Poop!

This years I pull them and stick them into a bag for
disposal. So far, two big garbage bags full of cheat
Grass and others.

Death to weeds!

-T


We have a three-bin compost system, with one bin for each years weeds. In a couple of years, it's rotted down to good compost.

Paul
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On 5/11/19 7:43 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 1:09:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am involved in a holy ware against the weeds again
this year.

The past two years, I though that if I just picked the
weed and dropped in in place, the it would stop them
from seeding.

Well, It is worse than ever this year. Apparently, when
you pull the weed, whatever it has left in it puts its
effort into seeding. Now I have four times as much cheat
grass! Poop!

This years I pull them and stick them into a bag for
disposal. So far, two big garbage bags full of cheat
Grass and others.

Death to weeds!

-T


We have a three-bin compost system, with one bin for each years weeds. In a couple of years, it's rotted down to good compost.

Paul


How do you make sure the ubiquitous, indestructible seeds
are dead?
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On 5/11/2019 11:01 PM, T wrote:
On 5/11/19 7:43 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 1:09:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am involved in a holy ware against the weeds again
this year.

The past two years, I though that if I just picked the
weed and dropped in in place, the it would stop them
from seeding.

Well, It is worse than ever this year.* Apparently, when
you pull the weed, whatever it has left in it puts its
effort into seeding.* Now I have four times as much cheat
grass!* Poop!

This years I pull them and stick them into a bag for
disposal.* So far, two big garbage bags full of cheat
Grass and others.

Death to weeds!

-T


We have a three-bin compost system, with one bin for each years weeds.
In a couple of years, it's rotted down to good compost.

Paul


How do you make sure the ubiquitous, indestructible seeds
are dead?


I've been battling sticky weed on banks in the back and we bagged weeds
and put them in the trash but it came back since some things seed like
crazy. I Preened the banks this year and it helped but some weed is
back. We have had same problem with Japanese stilt grass. Garden
center said pulling just lets other seeds in the soil sprout and only
solution is lots of premerg.


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On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 11:01:43 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 5/11/19 7:43 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 1:09:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am involved in a holy ware against the weeds again
this year.

The past two years, I though that if I just picked the
weed and dropped in in place, the it would stop them
from seeding.

Well, It is worse than ever this year. Apparently, when
you pull the weed, whatever it has left in it puts its
effort into seeding. Now I have four times as much cheat
grass! Poop!

This years I pull them and stick them into a bag for
disposal. So far, two big garbage bags full of cheat
Grass and others.

Death to weeds!

-T


We have a three-bin compost system, with one bin for each years weeds. In a couple of years, it's rotted down to good compost.

Paul


How do you make sure the ubiquitous, indestructible seeds
are dead?


After a couple of years buried under a couple feet of vegetable waste and sheep manure, they're pretty much killed out. If any survive, they get picked when they sprout in the garden and go back to the compost pile. The garden rows are all heavily mulched so very few weeds make it through the mulch into the light.



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