Some of you might recall that I posted 3 or 4 weeks ago about how
weirdly our 3-4 varieties of paste tomatoes were growing--- some with a
little BER, most of them ripe looking on the outside but green on the
inside and the foliage just not up to par in my experience. All that
while our other tomato patch was just doing grandly with none of the
same problems.

Since we only moved in here a year ago, we took two soil samples to our
extension service and the results were quite interesting. PH was 6.5 &
6.8 in the two plots and most everything was either in the "high" or
"normal" range according to the scale they used. But in the plot with
the underachieving tomatoes the phosphorus content was VERY LOW. Trace
minerals were all just fine including calcium. They told us not to add
any more calcium. So it was not a calcium problem after all and it is
interesting to see what happens to tomatoes in soil that is quite
deficient in phosphorus. I am rather curious how the soil got to be
that way. It had been lawn for about 13 years (with God knows what put
on it) and was cow pasture before that.

Amazingly, they made no suggestions on how to correct this problem so my
DH is calling them today. The plot we need to correct is about 100 x
100 with raised beds and little paths in between.

Today I put by 8 pints of zucchini relish. Despite a few problems
including the damn deer finding ways to nibble at the edges before the
Scarecrows fire at them, our garden has been very bountiful this year so
far so I am filling up the shelves and freezer quite fast. This morning
the cuckoos were cuckooing while I was picking the lower garden, trying
to get it done before the sun fried me to a crisp. The last week has
been a sizzler here in eastern Missouri and they keep saying there is a
cool front moving in..... yeah sure. Happy gardening all.

Phae

Phaedrine Stonebridge wrote in message ...
Some of you might recall that I posted 3 or 4 weeks ago about how
weirdly our 3-4 varieties of paste tomatoes were growing--- some with a
little BER, most of them ripe looking on the outside but green on the
inside and the foliage just not up to par in my experience. All that
while our other tomato patch was just doing grandly with none of the
same problems.

Since we only moved in here a year ago, we took two soil samples to our
extension service and the results were quite interesting. PH was 6.5 &
6.8 in the two plots and most everything was either in the "high" or
"normal" range according to the scale they used. But in the plot with
the underachieving tomatoes the phosphorus content was VERY LOW. Trace
minerals were all just fine including calcium. They told us not to add
any more calcium. So it was not a calcium problem after all and it is
interesting to see what happens to tomatoes in soil that is quite
deficient in phosphorus. I am rather curious how the soil got to be
that way. It had been lawn for about 13 years (with God knows what put
on it) and was cow pasture before that.

Amazingly, they made no suggestions on how to correct this problem so my
DH is calling them today. The plot we need to correct is about 100 x
100 with raised beds and little paths in between.


The two organic amendments I know of that have relatively high P are
wood chips (low N, medium P, medium K) and chicken manure (very high
N, high P, low K). Most other amendments tend to have a profile higher
in N and/or K.

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(simy1) wrote:

Phaedrine Stonebridge wrote in message
...
Some of you might recall that I posted 3 or 4 weeks ago about how
weirdly our 3-4 varieties of paste tomatoes were growing--- some with a
little BER, most of them ripe looking on the outside but green on the
inside and the foliage just not up to par in my experience. All that
while our other tomato patch was just doing grandly with none of the
same problems.

Since we only moved in here a year ago, we took two soil samples to our
extension service and the results were quite interesting. PH was 6.5 &
6.8 in the two plots and most everything was either in the "high" or
"normal" range according to the scale they used. But in the plot with
the underachieving tomatoes the phosphorus content was VERY LOW. Trace
minerals were all just fine including calcium. They told us not to add
any more calcium. So it was not a calcium problem after all and it is
interesting to see what happens to tomatoes in soil that is quite
deficient in phosphorus. I am rather curious how the soil got to be
that way. It had been lawn for about 13 years (with God knows what put
on it) and was cow pasture before that.

Amazingly, they made no suggestions on how to correct this problem so my
DH is calling them today. The plot we need to correct is about 100 x
100 with raised beds and little paths in between.


The two organic amendments I know of that have relatively high P are
wood chips (low N, medium P, medium K) and chicken manure (very high
N, high P, low K). Most other amendments tend to have a profile higher
in N and/or K.


Great infomation! Thank you so much

"Phaedrine Stonebridge" wrote in
message
news ...

.... The last week has
been a sizzler here in eastern Missouri and they keep saying there
is a
cool front moving in..... yeah sure. Happy gardening all.

Phae

May I ask where in eastern Missouri you live? I live in Chesterfield,
western suburbs of St. Louis, which certainly qualifies as eastern
Missouri also.

Guy Bradley
Chesterfield MO
zone 6

"Phaedrine Stonebridge" wrote in
message
news ...
...The last week has
been a sizzler here in eastern Missouri and they keep saying there
is a
cool front moving in..... yeah sure. Happy gardening all.

Phae

May I ask where in eastern Missouri you live? I'm in Chesterfield,
western suburb of St. Louis.

Guy Bradley

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"Guy Bradley" wrote:

"Phaedrine Stonebridge" wrote in
message
news ..

... The last week has
been a sizzler here in eastern Missouri and they keep saying there
is a
cool front moving in..... yeah sure. Happy gardening all.

Phae

May I ask where in eastern Missouri you live? I live in Chesterfield,
western suburbs of St. Louis, which certainly qualifies as eastern
Missouri also.

Guy Bradley
Chesterfield MO
zone 6



I emailed you. Chesterfield is zone 6? I thought the St. Louis Area
was 5b no?