Frogleg wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:51:41 +0100,
(Jim W) wrote:

Marilee wrote:


Is top posting a hot button?

I always say:

A: Because top posting doesn't make sense.
Q: Why bottom post?

*Love* that. Permission to copy and use?

Be my guest! I did;-)

In any case there's nowt I can do to stop you is there;-))

Its true though. You do not read a page from bottom to top in English..
The ONLY time when I top post is when replying to a short email to a
single friend where both the quoted ref and my reply are on the same
area of screen and likly to be when they read it too. But email and
USENET are 2 different things..
//
Jim

I'm new to this group (about a week). In other groups I follow, I've
seen people complain about posting the reply at the bottom. Their reason
was that when they read through a batch of posts in a thread, they don't
want to have to wade through the original post every time. They say post
at the top and anyone can look down to see what it was about if they
don't already know. I do it either way depending on the situation and my
mood.

Steve


Jim W wrote:

Its true though. You do not read a page from bottom to top in English..
The ONLY time when I top post is when replying to a short email to a
single friend where both the quoted ref and my reply are on the same
area of screen and likly to be when they read it too. But email and
USENET are 2 different things..
//
Jim

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:27:54 GMT, Steve
wrote:

I'm new to this group (about a week). In other groups I follow, I've
seen people complain about posting the reply at the bottom. Their reason
was that when they read through a batch of posts in a thread, they don't
want to have to wade through the original post every time. They say post
at the top and anyone can look down to see what it was about if they
don't already know. I do it either way depending on the situation and my
mood.

I don't get excited about it anymore (God knows it's better
than posting with all the HTML codes!) and I certainly don't
go out of my way to object to top-posting, but since we're
discussing it, I'll chime in... ;-)

Reading through some of the URLs given below may help you
to understand *why* bottom posting is and always has been
the Usenet (newsgroup) standard and why many of us tend to
killfile consistent top-posters: their posts are just too
confusing to be worth bothering with.

I think this one

http://home.sprintmail.com/~dtrout/Usenet101.html

is especially useful and explains things very well.

Pat


Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html

Netiquette: "When thou enter a city, abide by its customs."
http://www.glowworms.com/~vez/neti.html

How To Followup A Post On Netnews Properly
http://www.star-one.org.uk/computer/format.htm

Usenet 101: How to properly format a Usenet post
http://home.sprintmail.com/~dtrout/Usenet101.html

How do I quote correctly in usenet?
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html

Posting help for newbies
http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html

Zen and the art of the internet (usenet section)
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html

The seven don'ts of Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html

Why bottom-posting is better than top-posting
http://fmf.fwn.rug.nl/~anton/topposting.html

What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"?
http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/

The advantages of usenet's quoting conventions
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/g.mccaugha...ks/uquote.html

Rules for posting to Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/

Why should I place my response below the quoted text?
http://allmyfaqs.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl...bottom-posting

Why you shouldn't ask for E-mail responses on Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usene...responses.html

Quoting Style in Newsgroup Postings
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7ewijnands/nnq/nquote.html

Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes with this
automated fix!
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

For the Engineer/Programmer: News related RFCs and Drafts
http://www.tin.org/docs.html

Pat Meadows wrote:

Reading through some of the URLs given below may help you
to understand *why* bottom posting is and always has been
the Usenet (newsgroup) standard

That was entirely rational and correct. Be prepared to be flamed by people
who take criticism poorly. Most of whom are already in my killfile for
reasons having nothing to do with posting style.

Almost done; just fifteen elephants to dig, wash, and dry!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

Gary Woods uttered these pearls of wisdom:
Almost done; just fifteen elephants to dig, wash, and dry!

Good heavens! I hope you're talking about garlic! You could go
through a *lot* of towels otherwise.

Monique in TX

"Steve" wrote in message
t...
I'm new to this group (about a week). In other groups I follow, I've
seen people complain about posting the reply at the bottom. Their reason
was that when they read through a batch of posts in a thread, they don't
want to have to wade through the original post every time. They say post
at the top and anyone can look down to see what it was about if they
don't already know. I do it either way depending on the situation and my
mood.

I don't top post. I intersperse-post. I believe in adequate snippage,
though, to avoid having to scroll all the way to the bottom when I'm
replying to only a portion.

Marilee

writes:

I don't top post. I intersperse-post. I believe in adequate snippage,
though, to avoid having to scroll all the way to the bottom when I'm
replying to only a portion.

In my simple mind, I consider that the same as bottom posting and much
prefer that. It makes so much more sense to have the response immediately
follow the original. I had to laugh when I first got on-line so many
years ago when I first realized what [snip] or [snippage] meant. LOL

Glenna

When last we left our heros, on Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:23:27 -0500,
"Marilee" scribbled:



I don't top post. I intersperse-post. I believe in adequate snippage,
though, to avoid having to scroll all the way to the bottom when I'm
replying to only a portion.

Wot she said, with an emphasis on "adequate snippage"

One of the most annoying things about top posters is that
they rarely edit, so if you're left sifting through an ungodly
mishmash to figure out what they're replying to.


Pam




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