Hello there....

I finally broke down and purchased an Eheim (2213) Canister Filter!
The Germans (notice my last name) are geniuses, they really know their
engineering!
However, I'm curious about the spraybar attachment. The section with the rigid
90d tube is attached to the flexible hosing that drapes over the back of the
tank. Is there a way to prevent kinking? Is there a 180d rigid piece available
that hangs on the tank's back (for the outflo)?
Suggestions?

OurFeetaresane!
Nate Goetz
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=NYN8R8A&key=TTM

"Nsty N8" wrote in message
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Hello there....

I finally broke down and purchased an Eheim (2213) Canister Filter!
The Germans (notice my last name) are geniuses, they really know their
engineering!
However, I'm curious about the spraybar attachment. The section with the
rigid
90d tube is attached to the flexible hosing that drapes over the back of
the
tank. Is there a way to prevent kinking? Is there a 180d rigid piece
available
that hangs on the tank's back (for the outflo)?
Suggestions?

Not following you exactly (!) - I thought all Eheims came with two pieces of
rigid tube - one is a 180 degree bend for the inflow & the other is what's
refered to as a "Shepherds Crook" for the outflow....effects a 90 degree
bend back into the tank

Have a look at http://www.eheimparts.com/pdf/2224.pdf - look at the bottom
left hand corner of the page & you'll see the thing I mean.

HTH

I.

I think you're missing a part. My Eheim came with two J-shaped pieces of
rigid
green tubing, meant to hook over the sides of the tank. One for intake,
one
for the spray bar.

My 2213 came with one. But my intake was like inverted "J" type.

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Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

Hi Iain,

do you have Eheim 2222/2224? I'm thinking about getting one. how do you
like yours? how long have you had it?

linda

"Iain Miller" wrote in message
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"Nsty N8" wrote in message
...
Hello there....

I finally broke down and purchased an Eheim (2213) Canister Filter!
The Germans (notice my last name) are geniuses, they really know their
engineering!
However, I'm curious about the spraybar attachment. The section with
the
rigid
90d tube is attached to the flexible hosing that drapes over the back of
the
tank. Is there a way to prevent kinking? Is there a 180d rigid piece
available
that hangs on the tank's back (for the outflo)?
Suggestions?

Not following you exactly (!) - I thought all Eheims came with two pieces
of
rigid tube - one is a 180 degree bend for the inflow & the other is what's
refered to as a "Shepherds Crook" for the outflow....effects a 90 degree
bend back into the tank

Have a look at http://www.eheimparts.com/pdf/2224.pdf - look at the bottom
left hand corner of the page & you'll see the thing I mean.

HTH

I.

"linda mar" wrote in message
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Hi Iain,

do you have Eheim 2222/2224? I'm thinking about getting one. how do you
like yours? how long have you had it?


I've got two 2224s under my 90USG tank.

They are very quiet & very easy to maintain. I'm a bit dubious about them
only having two baskets - by the time you've filled the bottom one with the
Ehfimech & filled the top one iwth the recommended amount of Ehfisubstrat
there isn't much room for any form of filter wool on top. You get a thin
fine filter pad to go on top but I found this literally fell to bits after
about a month.

As is my way of course I've modified my filtration a fair bit by putting in
a Hozelock Bioforce pond filter in line in front of the eheims. The water
collects from the standard Eheim tubes at each end of the tank. These then
comes down into a T piece that goes into 16mm hose into the Hozelock - this
has two thick disks of prefitted foam filter in it and acts as a giant
prefilter - it also has a UV sterilizer in it which I use from time to time.

From the Bioforce it comes out via 16mm hose back into another T piece where
it drops down to 12mm and splits to feed the two eheims. Right now one of
these has the standard Eheim recommended load of Ehfimech & Ehfi Substrat in
it - the other is 3/4 full of Ehfisubstrat & 1/4 full of filter wool. I've
been waiting a 2-3 weeks before I reorganise the other one in the same way.
This gives me HUGE bio filtering capacity.

The theory is that by having the prefilter I will almost never need to touch
the Eheims. I disconnect and clean out the Bioforce once every week or two
and I do it under the tap - I don't actually want it to turn into a bio
filter - that's done by the eheims - its just there to catch the worst of
the crap. Its easier to take apart & clean than doing the two cannisters -
not that they are particularly hard to clean & there is kind of less risk to
my biofilters because I should rarely have to touch them

Of course having set this up I then decided/found that the flow of water
through the system was not what it was when the eheims were running on their
own. I umm'd & ahh'd about putting it back to just running the cannisters as
standard & then decided to stick another pump in the system - this now sits
after the Bioforce & in front of the eheims & has done the trick in terms of
restoring the flow.

Why'd I do all that? Is it really necessary?

Answers are because I just did and in hindsight, not sure if it's really
better or not except that I now have UV sterilization that will kill Ich &
ALgae spores as & when I want without adding any meds. In that context it
was a fairly cheap way to add UV - untill that is I had to add another pump!

........but then its all fairly typical of me really!

rgds

I.

The "Classic" line of filters don't come with that rigid outflow piece. There
is only a small "elbow" piece to curve into the spraybar. My 2217 is the same.
I've just let the tube drape over the tank edge, but I might change my mind
and buy that "Shepherds Crook" eventually. I'm still getting pretty good flow
because the tube isn't kinked too much.

If you go to http://www.eheimparts.com/client/homepage.aspx and click on
"cannister filters" and you can find your model.

You do want to watch how the tubes hang down below the tank... I left the
outflow tube a bit too long and discovered it had kinked near the filter and
almost completely shut down the flow for a couple days.

Cris

In article , "Iain Miller"
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"Nsty N8" wrote in message
...
Hello there....

I finally broke down and purchased an Eheim (2213) Canister Filter!
The Germans (notice my last name) are geniuses, they really know their
engineering!
However, I'm curious about the spraybar attachment. The section with the
rigid
90d tube is attached to the flexible hosing that drapes over the back of
the
tank. Is there a way to prevent kinking? Is there a 180d rigid piece
available
that hangs on the tank's back (for the outflo)?
Suggestions?

Not following you exactly (!) - I thought all Eheims came with two pieces of
rigid tube - one is a 180 degree bend for the inflow & the other is what's
refered to as a "Shepherds Crook" for the outflow....effects a 90 degree
bend back into the tank

Have a look at http://www.eheimparts.com/pdf/2224.pdf - look at the bottom
left hand corner of the page & you'll see the thing I mean.

I had the same probem but managed to do the job using flexible tube
and succion cups!

"Iain Miller" wrote in message
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I've got two 2224s under my 90USG tank.

[lots of interesting pre-filtering methods snipped]
.......but then its all fairly typical of me really!

rgds

I.

Hi!

wow. you have some impressive setup. thank you for your reply.

with only 2 chambers what is common thing to do if you need to put in carbon
filter to get medication, etc out? I assume you keep the Ehfisubstrat, but
do you do a 50-50 ehfimech/carbon split with some thin foam to separate the
two levels in one basket?

I wonder if anyone has tried mix/match the 2222 and 2224 baskets inside
2224? i guess it wouldn't fit..?

linda