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Old 22-03-2004, 09:36 PM
Phil Williamson
 
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Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?

Phil..


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Old 23-03-2004, 12:15 AM
Alex R
 
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"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any (filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com


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Old 23-03-2004, 07:43 AM
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If you want a CHEAP source of Pottassium you can get Pottassium Chloride
from a product called No-Salt or Nu-Salt straight from your local grocery
store!
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**



"Alex R" wrote in message
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"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com




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Old 23-03-2004, 12:32 PM
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"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
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If you want a CHEAP source of Pottassium you can get Pottassium Chloride
from a product called No-Salt or Nu-Salt straight from your local grocery
store!
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**



Or go to your local Sears store and buy potassium Chloride used in water
softeners. Mortons brand, About $8.00 US for 40lb bag.

Buzz








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Old 24-03-2004, 05:57 AM
Phil Williamson
 
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
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"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com





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Old 24-03-2004, 06:32 AM
Phil Williamson
 
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
news:7fL7c.62837$po.562934@attbi_s52...
"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com



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Old 24-03-2004, 06:48 AM
Phil Williamson
 
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
news:7fL7c.62837$po.562934@attbi_s52...
"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com



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Old 24-03-2004, 08:31 AM
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
news:7fL7c.62837$po.562934@attbi_s52...
"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com



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Old 24-03-2004, 08:31 AM
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
news:7fL7c.62837$po.562934@attbi_s52...
"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com



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Phil Williamson
 
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
news:7fL7c.62837$po.562934@attbi_s52...
"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com





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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the effects
of the CO2?

Phil...

"Alex R" wrote in message
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"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a moderate to heavy planted 20 gal tank and I'm noticing that the
plants are growing at a decent rate but they seem to be getting holes in
them and rotting. Here's my tank specs:

- 15 watt powerglo
- 15 watt sunglow
- leaf zone plant fert.

I got my water tested the other week at my LFS and they seem to be well
within normal levels.

Do you think my tank would benefit from CO2 via a nutrafin natural plant
system?


I think CO2 would make a difference, but if you don't have any

(filamentous)
algae, it's not mandatory at your lighting. What I would suggest is

changing
your trace supplement to something more complete. Try Seachem Flourish,
Kent, or Tropica Mastergrow. The holes in your plants sounds like a lack

of
potassium, which the Leaf Zone doesn't provide enough of. For that, try

the
Seachem potassium supplement, or get some dry potassium sulfate, which is
more cost-effective. http://www.gregwatson.com/products.asp has it for

sale.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com



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Old 24-03-2004, 08:43 AM
Alex R
 
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KCl can be used a potassium supplement but a lot of people, including
myself, seemed to have trouble keeping shrimp while dosing it. I don't know
whether it was the KCl itself or some impurity that came along with it. But
if it kills shrimp, who knows what other harm it causes. That's why I don't
recommend it anymore. If you have a choice, go for K2SO4.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com


"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
...

If you want a CHEAP source of Pottassium you can get Pottassium Chloride
from a product called No-Salt or Nu-Salt straight from your local grocery
store!



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Old 24-03-2004, 08:57 AM
Alex R
 
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"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the

effects
of the CO2?

Phil...


Probably not very long. You might see pearling within a day. If all other
nutrients are present, the plants should start growing faster almost
immediately. Keep in mind that you might have to dose nitrate in addition to
potassium, so test for that.
__
Alex
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Old 24-03-2004, 08:57 AM
Alex R
 
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KCl can be used a potassium supplement but a lot of people, including
myself, seemed to have trouble keeping shrimp while dosing it. I don't know
whether it was the KCl itself or some impurity that came along with it. But
if it kills shrimp, who knows what other harm it causes. That's why I don't
recommend it anymore. If you have a choice, go for K2SO4.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com


"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
...

If you want a CHEAP source of Pottassium you can get Pottassium Chloride
from a product called No-Salt or Nu-Salt straight from your local grocery
store!



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Old 24-03-2004, 09:00 AM
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"Phil Williamson" wrote in message
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Algae isn't a problem in my tank. How long would it take to see the

effects
of the CO2?

Phil...


Probably not very long. You might see pearling within a day. If all other
nutrients are present, the plants should start growing faster almost
immediately. Keep in mind that you might have to dose nitrate in addition to
potassium, so test for that.
__
Alex
pcalex (at) hotpop.com


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