Eventually your trees will stop producing because of the low light
situation.

In the case of the original poster, apple trees don't actually start
producing fruit for up to seven or more years old. The first few are
from stress related last ditch effort to produce seeds. Nature is
interesting.


On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:10:57 -0500, sherwindu
wrote:

Say about 4 hours. Most of my apple trees are semi-dwarfs on the west side of my
house and only get the afternoon sun. A few are on my south boundary north of a
line of my neighbors tall pines and buckthorn. Even less light gets there.

Sherwin D.

Jangchub wrote:

How long is half a day?

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:11:59 -0500, sherwindu
wrote:

Maybe you should tell that to several apple trees in my backyard getting a half
day
of sun.

Sherwin D.

Jangchub wrote:

You will most likely never get apples. They require full sunshine.
Anything else I can say is moot. However, you also have to select the
proper chill hour trees.

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:41:37 GMT, TG wrote:

I picked up three apple trees 3 or 4 years back (in the spring), and
planted them in a semi shaded area, where there are some birch and
poplar trees growing about 3 meters away. All three trees produced fruit
the next year, (which surprised me) but have produced little or nothing
since.

They dont get a lot of direct sunlight where they are, but they seem to
be growing well and thriving, just not producing fruit. Last spring (05)
I planted 2 more in an area that gets a bit more sun and slightly more
out in the open, and it looks like they will produce a lot this fall.

Anyway, back to the first three I planted, I am wondering if it is a
matter of pruning, location, or both. I suppose I could possible move
them, although they are probably quite well rooted by now. But I have
seen other apple trees growing wild where they were quite shaded and
there was tons of apples on them, mind you that was in coastal BC and I
now live in northeastern Alberta.

So if anyone here could help me out I'd be grateful! I can send jpegs of
the trees locations or of the trees themselves if that would help...


TIA

Eventually??? My trees have been producing for 15 years! I think they will continue
to produce until they die of old age. Some of them will probably outlive me.

Jangchub wrote:

Eventually your trees will stop producing because of the low light
situation.

In the case of the original poster, apple trees don't actually start
producing fruit for up to seven or more years old.

You are talking about Standard size trees. Dwarfs and semi-dwarfs
produce several years earlier. I have had trees produce a few apples
one year after I grafted them. I skipped letting them grow, but I get
several more on successive seasons.

The first few are
from stress related last ditch effort to produce seeds. Nature is
interesting.

This last ditch effort is just that. A tree is dying. In his case, the trees have
been healthy for a few years after planting, although the blossom production
is still a problem.

I'm curious if you are getting these ideas from your own experiences, or are
interpreting what you were told or read about.

Sherwin D.

Jangchub wrote:
Eventually your trees will stop producing because of the low light
situation.

In the case of the original poster, apple trees don't actually start
producing fruit for up to seven or more years old. The first few are
from stress related last ditch effort to produce seeds. Nature is
interesting.

From when do you start counting the seven years? From when they are
transplanted? Or sprouted from a cutting or seed?

The trees were in 5 gallon pots and about 6' tall when I planted them.

TG wrote:
Thanks for the answers all.

The first year they did not produce, it was the next year.

There has been very little or no blossoming in the past 2 springs

I am in zone 2 or 2a, and I'm not sure what the trees are as the labels
have faded.


This is, of course, the whole story. It is too cold there for apple
trees, and they don't fruit.

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:59:25 GMT, TG wrote:

Jangchub wrote:
Eventually your trees will stop producing because of the low light
situation.

In the case of the original poster, apple trees don't actually start
producing fruit for up to seven or more years old. The first few are
from stress related last ditch effort to produce seeds. Nature is
interesting.

From when do you start counting the seven years? From when they are
transplanted? Or sprouted from a cutting or seed?

The trees were in 5 gallon pots and about 6' tall when I planted them.

From the day it is planted in the ground.

What would really help is if you tell us what variety of apple these are, and on
what
kind of rootstock (dwarf, semi-dwarf, or standard).

Sherwin D.

TG wrote:

Jangchub wrote:
Eventually your trees will stop producing because of the low light
situation.

In the case of the original poster, apple trees don't actually start
producing fruit for up to seven or more years old. The first few are
from stress related last ditch effort to produce seeds. Nature is
interesting.

From when do you start counting the seven years? From when they are
transplanted? Or sprouted from a cutting or seed?

The trees were in 5 gallon pots and about 6' tall when I planted them.

Just thumbing through my apple inventory book I came across 'Rosthern 18',
'Parkland', and 'Vista Bella', all hardy to Zone 2. I'm sure there are more,
but I think you should get my point. TIA lives in Alberta Provence where they
grow lots of apples. Here is a reference to the Fruit Growers Society of
Alberta,
where they have a fruit orchard with over 50 varieties of apples.

http://www.albertafruit.com/farms/html/pork-palace.html

You might want to check your facts next time.

Sherwin D.

simy1 wrote:

TG wrote:
Thanks for the answers all.

The first year they did not produce, it was the next year.

There has been very little or no blossoming in the past 2 springs

I am in zone 2 or 2a, and I'm not sure what the trees are as the labels
have faded.


This is, of course, the whole story. It is too cold there for apple
trees, and they don't fruit.

Until he tells us which variety he is growing, we can draw no conclusions.


simy1 wrote:

sherwindu wrote:
where they have a fruit orchard with over 50 varieties of apples.

http://www.albertafruit.com/farms/html/pork-palace.html

You might want to check your facts next time.

Sherwin D.

Zone 2, in shade, and perhaps the soil is even clay and stays cold for
a long time in spring. Once it is so marginal, it takes little to stop
producing.

I'll try and find out, the labels are faded on the older trees, but I
think I still have the newer ones.

Lots of people grow apple trees up here, and the nurseries are usually
pretty carefull only to sell varieties that will grow in this zone.



sherwindu wrote:
Until he tells us which variety he is growing, we can draw no conclusions.


simy1 wrote:


sherwindu wrote:

where they have a fruit orchard with over 50 varieties of apples.

http://www.albertafruit.com/farms/html/pork-palace.html

You might want to check your facts next time.

Sherwin D.

Zone 2, in shade, and perhaps the soil is even clay and stays cold for
a long time in spring. Once it is so marginal, it takes little to stop
producing.