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And some people say there's no God...
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote:
Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. Sam Heywood -- Message handled by Pine, Version 4.62 |
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And some people say there's no God...
Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. .... so the gods have tiny brains? |
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And some people say there's no God...
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Chris H. Fleming wrote:
Samuel W. Heywood wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. ... so the gods have tiny brains? I just knew that some very smart people would draw that conclusion. Sam Heywood -- Message handled by Pine, Version 4.62 |
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:33:50 -0400, "Samuel W. Heywood"
wrote: - Refer: .org On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Chris H. Fleming wrote: Samuel W. Heywood wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. ... so the gods have tiny brains? I just knew that some very smart people would draw that conclusion. I just knew that one very stupid person would not answer the question. -- |
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And some people say there's no God...
"Michael Gray" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:33:50 -0400, "Samuel W. Heywood" wrote: - Refer: .org On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Chris H. Fleming wrote: Samuel W. Heywood wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. ... so the gods have tiny brains? I just knew that some very smart people would draw that conclusion. I just knew that one very stupid person would not answer the question. -- Hmmmm. It *is* amazing to see nature at work. In the case of a spider and it's web: seems pretty 'natural' to me. But then, some people would see the 'miracle' of the construction of a spider-web as proof that Jesus walked on water, raised people from the dead, and in another 'guise', created the universe. Now that's what I call a *leap* of faith. Greywolf |
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:01:00 -0500, "Greywolf"
wrote: - Refer: "Michael Gray" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:33:50 -0400, "Samuel W. Heywood" wrote: - Refer: .org On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Chris H. Fleming wrote: Samuel W. Heywood wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. ... so the gods have tiny brains? I just knew that some very smart people would draw that conclusion. I just knew that one very stupid person would not answer the question. -- Hmmmm. It *is* amazing to see nature at work. In the case of a spider and it's web: seems pretty 'natural' to me. But then, some people would see the 'miracle' of the construction of a spider-web as proof that Jesus walked on water, raised people from the dead, and in another 'guise', created the universe. Now that's what I call a *leap* of faith. Greywolf Rather than a "leap of faith", I prefer to think of it as "jumping into the gaping bottomless chasm of superstion". -- |
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:55:53 +0930, Michael Gray
wrote: Rather than a "leap of faith", I prefer to think of it as "jumping into the gaping bottomless chasm of superstion". I am not sure why non believers think people who are believers are superstitious. Spirituality is a very subjective thing and means different things to different people. When I'm engaged in conversation and the subject of god comes up, I ask people what they mean by "god." I am always surprised to find out many people use the term as a metaphor and it actually means nothing. My mother is always saying god watches out for her. If she wants to believe that, and it gives her some solace, I shut my mouth. I don't engage her in that discussion because I do not believe in god, or that someone is watching me who created me. It's still nice to allow for others to have their thoughts and sometimes it's really good to just shut my mouth. |
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And some people say there's no God...
Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Chris H. Fleming wrote: Samuel W. Heywood wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. ... so the gods have tiny brains? I just knew that some very smart people would draw that conclusion. The universe is so complex, I would guess the gods' brains are so tiny as to be completely nonexistent. |
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And some people say there's no God...
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:18:00 -0400, "Samuel W. Heywood"
wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. That's nothing. Water can create mighty valleys, waterfalls and deltas. It is around us, it penetrates us and binds the galaxy together. Let the force be with you. Live long and.. oops sorry wrong one. When 'cool' water can make beautiful icicles and mighty glaciers. When 'hot' it can disappear and just 'float away into clouds'. Now that's real cool man. Wonderfully creative yer water is. Yet not one single brain cell anywhere. This post was inspired by a thunderstorm that is fast approaching as I type. It sounds quite agitated too. Les Hellawell Greetings from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County |
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And some people say there's no God...
Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Tough Tonto wrote: Last night just before bed, I looked out over my deck, and there over the middle of it, was the most magnificent spider web ever devised, shining in the spotlight. This wonder appeared perfectly circular and was about the size--and very much resembled-- a 33 rpm phono record, with very precisely placed circular strands close together with perfect symmetry. I still am not sure how this little master builder anchored this creation; must've been the hedge on one side and the chimney on the other, and maybe the deck; but all this stuff was a good ways off, and the masterpiece was hanging a good 8 feet over the deck. Another amazing thing is that we had a heavy rainstorm not 3 hours earlier, so this beauty was designed and built in less than 3 hours. So here we have a creature, with a brain maybe the size of a grain of sand, and likely less than a year old, building something any civil engineer would show with great pride. I got up to pee around 3 a.m., looked out, and it was already gone. Wonderful, but what does a nice spider web have to do with some people saying "there's no God"? Do you think spiders somehow resemble little gods? He is making the point that spiders are superbly intelligent designers, despite their very tiny brains. Sam Heywood -- Message handled by Pine, Version 4.62 By the same reasoning, water molecules must be superbly intelligent designers, since they arrange themselves into snowflakes. Design, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. |
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