I want to grow psyllium and, flax but the only place left in my garden
gets only 3 hours/day of full sun (and that's at the summer solstice).
The ground is amended clay. Zone 9. Rains usually start in Oct./Nov. I'd
appreciate any input.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:40:40 -0700, William Rose wrote:
I want to grow psyllium and, flax but the only place left in my garden
gets only 3 hours/day of full sun (and that's at the summer solstice).
The ground is amended clay. Zone 9. Rains usually start in Oct./Nov. I'd
appreciate any input.

Neither is a grass. Psyllium is Plantago psyllium, related to the common
plantain of lawns. Flax is generally Linum usitatissimum, source of linseed
oil and linen fabric.

Plantago psyllium in the eastern US tends to grow along railroad tracks, which
suggest that it's one that needs a lot of sunlight, and well drained soil.
Doesn't seem to have been collected S of N. Carolina, either.

Flax is another dry, open place plant. Though it's amenable to warm
conditions it likes full sun.

I doubt either species is going to like the conditions you offer.

Kay

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Kay Lancaster wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:40:40 -0700, William Rose wrote:
I want to grow psyllium and, flax but the only place left in my garden
gets only 3 hours/day of full sun (and that's at the summer solstice).
The ground is amended clay. Zone 9. Rains usually start in Oct./Nov. I'd
appreciate any input.

Neither is a grass. Psyllium is Plantago psyllium, related to the common
plantain of lawns. Flax is generally Linum usitatissimum, source of linseed
oil and linen fabric.

Plantago psyllium in the eastern US tends to grow along railroad tracks, which
suggest that it's one that needs a lot of sunlight, and well drained soil.
Doesn't seem to have been collected S of N. Carolina, either.

Flax is another dry, open place plant. Though it's amenable to warm
conditions it likes full sun.

I doubt either species is going to like the conditions you offer.

Kay



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In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

Neither is a grass.

Are they or are they not monocotyledons? In my botany class, monocots
were called grasses.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Perhaps they could use them as border plants?

Thanks for respondng. Apparently they grow best in clumps and not in
rows. I am looking at a different part of my yard now, a part the that
is in the domain of the ornamental flower grower in the family. Flax has
cute little blue flowers right? And psyllium has . . . ? . .oh lord.
Wish me luck.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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Janet Baraclough wrote:

The message
from Omelet contains these words:

In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:40:40 -0700, William Rose
wrote:
I want to grow psyllium and, flax but the only place left in my
garden
gets only 3 hours/day of full sun (and that's at the summer solstice).
The ground is amended clay. Zone 9. Rains usually start in
Oct./Nov. I'd
appreciate any input.

Neither is a grass. Psyllium is Plantago psyllium, related to the common
plantain of lawns. Flax is generally Linum usitatissimum, source of
linseed
oil and linen fabric.

It's also an annual. ie, for 6 months of the year the ground will
be bare. It's not a grass.

New Zealand Flax, aka phormium, NOT the blue-flowered source of
linsed oil, is a large perennial with spiky leaves..But it's not a
grass; iirc it's a member of the lily family.


Janet.

Thanks for your learned erudition. Don't get too excited over my
mistake. I'm sure it won't be my last. I suppose you could check my
spelling and punctuation. How did Freud describe that again?

Now, to the thrust of the posting, do you know how to grow the damn
things, flax or psyllium?

I await your enlightened response.

- Bill

Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:04:59 -0700, William Rose wrote:
In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

Neither is a grass.

Are they or are they not monocotyledons? In my botany class, monocots
were called grasses.

Both are dicots, and you should ask for your money back on the botany class.
Grasses are one family of monocots, as are palms, lilies, orchids,
sedges, rushes, etc. The group of monocots encompasses many families --
grasses (Gramineae or Poaceae) are just one family in the group of monocots,
aka Liliopsida.

Linum is in the Linaceae; Plantago in the Plantaginaceae. Don't get fooled by
narrow leaves and venation patterns when you're trying to figure out
monocot vs. dicot -- it's one of the least trustworthy characters.

Kay

In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:04:59 -0700, William Rose wrote:
In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

Neither is a grass.

Are they or are they not monocotyledons? In my botany class, monocots
were called grasses.

Both are dicots, and you should ask for your money back on the botany class.
Grasses are one family of monocots, as are palms, lilies, orchids,
sedges, rushes, etc. The group of monocots encompasses many families --
grasses (Gramineae or Poaceae) are just one family in the group of monocots,
aka Liliopsida.

Linum is in the Linaceae; Plantago in the Plantaginaceae. Don't get fooled by
narrow leaves and venation patterns when you're trying to figure out
monocot vs. dicot -- it's one of the least trustworthy characters.

Kay

Yes, wonderful. I as playing with the subject heading. I just want to
know if anyone has the vaguest idea of how to grow these plants and what
requirements they have. Excuse me for being lazy and asking a gardening
question when it is manifestly obvious that I will have to look it up
myself. Your answer is completely correct and totally useless. You don't
work for MicroSoft do you?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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Janet Baraclough wrote:

Small-penis male inferiority complex.

I'm sure you get that reaction a lot.

The problem seems to lie in that dormant organ under your coif. The
question was, "How does one grow flax and psyllium". That's not too
difficult to understand, now is it? Hmmmm?

God, I hope there aren't anymore at the kennel like you.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

William Rose expounded:

Yes, wonderful. I as playing with the subject heading. I just want to
know if anyone has the vaguest idea of how to grow these plants and what
requirements they have. Excuse me for being lazy and asking a gardening
question when it is manifestly obvious that I will have to look it up
myself. Your answer is completely correct and totally useless. You don't
work for MicroSoft do you?

Bill, sarcastic replies garner even more sarcasm, as this thread
shows.

Google is your friend. Growing flax:
http://www.google.com/search?q=growi...ient=firefox-a

Growing psyllium:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...&btnG=Searc h

Not so hard, huh? )
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
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Ann wrote:

Google is your friend

And so are you. Honestly, I have been Googling and have come up with
meager results. Perhaps I over reacted. Perhaps I was disappointed that
when I asked for help others took it as an occasion to cap on me. Be
that as it may be,

thank you very much my friend.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0700, William Rose wrote:
Yes, wonderful. I as playing with the subject heading. I just want to
know if anyone has the vaguest idea of how to grow these plants and what
requirements they have. Excuse me for being lazy and asking a gardening
question when it is manifestly obvious that I will have to look it up
myself. Your answer is completely correct and totally useless. You don't
work for MicroSoft do you?

No. And had you bothered to read my complete, initial post, you would have
found that I stated both grow in open (i.e., sunny) spots; typically in the
US, they are naturalized along railroad tracks.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0700, William Rose wrote:
Yes, wonderful. I as playing with the subject heading. I just want to
know if anyone has the vaguest idea of how to grow these plants and what
requirements they have. Excuse me for being lazy and asking a gardening
question when it is manifestly obvious that I will have to look it up
myself. Your answer is completely correct and totally useless. You don't
work for microsoft, do you.

No. You might, though, as you seem to have problems reading an entire post.
To quote from my original post:

Plantago psyllium in the eastern US tends to grow along railroad
tracks, which
suggest that it's one that needs a lot of sunlight, and well
drained soil.
Doesn't seem to have been collected S of N. Carolina, either.

Flax is another dry, open place plant. Though it's amenable to
warm
conditions it likes full sun.

I doubt either species is going to like the conditions you offer.

Kay

In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0700, William Rose wrote:
Yes, wonderful. I as playing with the subject heading. I just want to
know if anyone has the vaguest idea of how to grow these plants and what
requirements they have. Excuse me for being lazy and asking a gardening
question when it is manifestly obvious that I will have to look it up
myself. Your answer is completely correct and totally useless. You don't
work for microsoft, do you.

No. You might, though, as you seem to have problems reading an entire post.
To quote from my original post:

Plantago psyllium in the eastern US tends to grow along railroad
tracks, which
suggest that it's one that needs a lot of sunlight, and well
drained soil.
Doesn't seem to have been collected S of N. Carolina, either.

Flax is another dry, open place plant. Though it's amenable to
warm
conditions it likes full sun.

I doubt either species is going to like the conditions you offer.

Kay

Been down so long, it looks like up to me.

Thanks for the follow up. A facultative - obligatory question though.
Just because a plant grows in full sunlight, does that mean that it
can't grow in partial shade? I realize that this represents a spectrum
of possibilities but I think you get my meaning. If I'm just being dense
again, please point it out.
I'm on a slope and, I've just added sand to the garden to help with
drainage. I do live in a rain forest but the summers are bone dry in
California. As I see it, if I can run a railway track through my garden
I still have a shot at it:-)

Thanks again,
- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

In article
,
William Rose wrote:


Been down so long, it looks like up to me.

Richard and Mamie Farania (SP).

"Been down so long it's beginning to look like up."

Damn motorcycle accidents.

Bill a bit anal for the fun of it.

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