Hello,

I have some sweet corn seeds and I was wanting to try my hand at
planting corn for the first time. The problem is the packages say they
need full sun. The first spot I was thinking of planting the corn is
in shade a lot of the day and I am unsure if it gets even a full six
hours of sun. The other spot is on a small hill. Well most of that
spot is. My regular garden is already full with everything else.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.


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Nate

"Nate" wrote in message
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Hello,

I have some sweet corn seeds and I was wanting to try my hand at
planting corn for the first time. The problem is the packages say they
need full sun. The first spot I was thinking of planting the corn is
in shade a lot of the day and I am unsure if it gets even a full six
hours of sun. The other spot is on a small hill. Well most of that
spot is. My regular garden is already full with everything else.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.


---
Nate


First of all, how many plants are you considering?

In article .com,
Nate wrote:

Hello,

I have some sweet corn seeds and I was wanting to try my hand at
planting corn for the first time. The problem is the packages say they
need full sun. The first spot I was thinking of planting the corn is
in shade a lot of the day and I am unsure if it gets even a full six
hours of sun. The other spot is on a small hill. Well most of that
spot is. My regular garden is already full with everything else.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.


---
Nate

There is no rational reason to plant corn. Their yield / area they take
up, is very small and they yield less protein than other grains. Their
only redeeming virtue is that cooked right after picking and slathered
in butter, they are delicious. So welcome to the club.
Grow them as you would melons. They need heat, Sun, water, and plenty of
nitrogen (fish emulsion every 2 weeks). Plant 3-4 per hill or if you
plant in rows, plant 3x3 or, 4x4 ect. Don't just plant 1 row. You'll be
asking for pollination problems. Don't plant everything at once unless
you use different corn with different days-to-ripeness.
Then comes the art form of telling when they are ripe but that is a
whole different post. That's the basics but keep learning. Everything in
your garden has its' own needs. Get to know them.
- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Plunk them behind your flowers in full sun. There isn't a choice on amount
of light corn needs.

--



BetsyB



"Nate" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,

I have some sweet corn seeds and I was wanting to try my hand at
planting corn for the first time. The problem is the packages say they
need full sun. The first spot I was thinking of planting the corn is
in shade a lot of the day and I am unsure if it gets even a full six
hours of sun. The other spot is on a small hill. Well most of that
spot is. My regular garden is already full with everything else.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.


---
Nate

On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:42:57 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote:

[...]

hen comes the art form of telling when they are ripe but that is a
whole different post.
[...]

What happened to the old thumbnail in the kernel test? If it
spurts, it's ready.

Persephone

Persephone wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:42:57 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote:

[...]

hen comes the art form of telling when they are ripe but that is a
whole different post.
[...]

What happened to the old thumbnail in the kernel test? If it
spurts, it's ready.

Persephone

Oh for heaven's sake...you do NOT even need to peel back the husk to know
when the corn's ready. Think about it.

In article , Persephone
wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:42:57 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote:

[...]

hen comes the art form of telling when they are ripe but that is a
whole different post.
[...]

What happened to the old thumbnail in the kernel test? If it
spurts, it's ready.

Persephone

It would be Persephone.

I understand that there are at least 3 ways in which to pick corn,
penetrating it, gawking at it or, groping it. The ol' thumbnail in the
kernel ploy is accurate BUT you have to pull its' husk down to do it. If
the corn doesn't spurt, then you have to push the husk back up again. It
is not such a good deal to try and push the husk back up over the cob to
wait for the kernels to swell and spurt, then you have to pull it back
down again and if it's still not spurting, push it back up again,
besides you now have a point of infection in the ear (of the corn). Then
I understand there is the ol' tassel ploy, whereby either when there is
hair the corn is ready or, when the hair starts to turn color the corn
is ready and, then there is the ol' groping ploy whereby you train your
finger tips to slide over the husk, feeling for any hidden swollen or,
distended kernels. That last one is to be avoided as it is likely to set
off another round of the "Easily Increase Fertility" rapture that
recently swept through wrecked gardens.

Of course there is also the pick in the morning vs. the pick just before
you cook it controversy.

Actually, growing the corn is the easy part. Picking it is the hard part.

Gardening is really easy if you know what to do and when. Reminds me of
the patient who walked into the doctor's office with half a watermelon
pushed down over his head, green beans coming out of his ears and
carrots coming out of his nose. He asked the doctor what was wrong with
him and the doctor said,"Your not eating properly":-)

- Bill

Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Corn is "light hungry"... won't do much in shade, even part shade.
The other gotcha is that corn not planted in pretty good sized blocks has to
be hand-pollinated to get the kernals to fill. Not tricky, just tedious.
And the yield per plant is low.

Unless you've *got* to have some particular corn, or you want it for some
sort of demo project, you're probably best off getting it at the local
farmer's market or roadside stand. Otherwise, take the hill, and make
sure it gets an inch of water a week, especially when the tassels are
forming.

Kay

In article ,
Kay Lancaster wrote:

Corn is "light hungry"... won't do much in shade, even part shade.
The other gotcha is that corn not planted in pretty good sized blocks has to
be hand-pollinated to get the kernals to fill. Not tricky, just tedious.
And the yield per plant is low.

Unless you've *got* to have some particular corn, or you want it for some
sort of demo project, you're probably best off getting it at the local
farmer's market or roadside stand. Otherwise, take the hill, and make
sure it gets an inch of water a week, especially when the tassels are
forming.

Kay

This is the straight skinny. So what you need to ask yourself is, do I
want to plant corn or not?

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

hen comes the art form of telling when they are ripe but that is a
whole different post.
[...]

What happened to the old thumbnail in the kernel test? If it
spurts, it's ready.

No, corn is ready to pick about two days after the racoons get it.
g

Kay

Kay Lancaster wrote:
hen comes the art form of telling when they are ripe but that is a
whole different post.
[...]

What happened to the old thumbnail in the kernel test? If it
spurts, it's ready.

No, corn is ready to pick about two days after the racoons get it.
g

Sometimes two hours!

--
john mcwilliams

Everything old is new again in the latest film about the beloved pooch
with the I.Q. of a grad student and the instincts of a boomerang.
[NY Times; Review of "Lassie".}

..

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Nate

First of all, how many plants are you considering?- Hide quoted text -

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Thank you for the replies so far. Well I have two packages of corn.
Peaches &Cream and Silver 'n Gold 65. The Peaches & Cream matues in 85
days the other in 65. Te reaspn why I bought them is I was buying
potatoes, onions, tomatoes, sweet andhot peppers, cucumbers, mellons,
and a couple other things I am not remembering so I figued that since
I am planting a garden much bigger than last year (which was my first
"real garden" ) I might as well go ahead and get in over my head a bit
more. I have always wanted to know what real fresh corn tasted like
grilled or boiled a few minuted after picked.

But I don't want to screw the WHOLE corn thing up.

My garden this year is about twice the size as last year and that is
before the corn that isn't even planted yet.

Anyway The original issue was the spot that ha the best sun (at least
7 hours I belive) is on a small slope and I wasn't sure if that is a
good spot.

And after reading about the fish emulsion my fiancee' wants to know
if dog poop (hehehee) would do as a good alternative as we have two
dogs.

So any more input is greatly appreciated.

In article .com,
Nate wrote:

But I don't want to screw the WHOLE corn thing up.

Relax Nate. You will. Be philosophical and remember the learning curve.
At least it will be better than last year.

Forget the pet poop or honey pots (also known as pots de chambre). The
poop you want is herbivore, chicken or, even bat poop and that is the
straight poop. No doubt aboot it.

Corn and melons have the same needs, so you can plant them together.
Corn should be spaced 8" apart, melons 18" apart, so if you leave about
a foot clear around the melon in the corn patch, it should work out fine.

Bon appétit (das bedeutet Mahlzeit:-)
Anyone going to correct me?

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

On Sat, 19 May 2007 09:33:28 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote:

In article .com,
Nate wrote:

But I don't want to screw the WHOLE corn thing up.

Relax Nate. You will. Be philosophical and remember the learning curve.
At least it will be better than last year.

Forget the pet poop or honey pots (also known as pots de chambre). The
poop you want is herbivore, chicken or, even bat poop and that is the
straight poop. No doubt aboot it.

Corn and melons have the same needs, so you can plant them together.
Corn should be spaced 8" apart, melons 18" apart, so if you leave about
a foot clear around the melon in the corn patch, it should work out fine.

Bon appétit (das bedeutet Mahlzeit:-)
Anyone going to correct me?

Not this time, Bill, but you're still on probation g

Cultural note: As I understand it,"mahlzeit" is used more in Southern
Germany. The general usage is "guten appetit".

Persephone

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

In article , Persephone
wrote:

Cultural note: As I understand it,"mahlzeit" is used more in Southern
Germany. The general usage is "guten appetit".

Genau.
Jolly good show.

- Bill

Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)