I would like you to go to a tree that you pruned one year or more ago and
show me the round doughnut of wound wood on a live oak. I will add the
picture which best shows pruning, at least 1 year ago, to my dictionary on
pruning and give you credit. I will place it on the front page of my
pruning section as a sign of proper pruning.

E.,g, http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...doughnuts.html


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:07:42 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

Show me some pictures of your doughnuts on live oak trees.

What? You want me to show you my branch collar cuts? If I have time
I'll take some photo's.

Show me yours Don Staples.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:07:42 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

Show me some pictures of your doughnuts on live oak trees.

What? You want me to show you my branch collar cuts? If I have time
I'll take some photo's.


No, he lost this one, and is diverting the conversation.

Great!

Did you know if you prune a sprout in the correct place you get a doughnut
as well? You do. Just prune to the swollen area without leaving a stub or
injuring the swollen area.

My biggest problem with people I work with is to get them to respect trunk
tissue when removing symplastless branches. Look he
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ss_inside.html

They constantly wound the trunk and they are closed minded. Except for the
exception on my best friend who will listen.

Oh.well, I look forward to some of your pictures from your area.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Jangchub" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:59:41 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

I would like you to go to a tree that you pruned one year or more ago and
show me the round doughnut of wound wood on a live oak. I will add the
picture which best shows pruning, at least 1 year ago, to my dictionary on
pruning and give you credit. I will place it on the front page of my
pruning section as a sign of proper pruning.

E.,g, http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...doughnuts.html

If I get a chance I will. I was looking at them today. Is your email
address correct?

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Show me yours Don Staples.

Why, you nasty little beast.

Beware of so-called tree biologist that have never studied biology.

Don

We are having an intelligent conversation here. Bug off your attitude
loser.

You are getting to be a royal pain.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


"D. Staples" wrote in message
...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Show me yours Don Staples.

Why, you nasty little beast.

Beware of so-called tree biologist that have never studied biology.

Jan

The good Doctor recommended a 10% household bleach and water solution if
sterilizing was desired. Also a bad thing to use is rubbing alcohol. When
I lived in Florida I really did not know much about trees. I worked on
water, live and willow oaks. One day I got paid by the hour to apply wound
dressing every place I thought an insect could get in. When I was done I
had a poka dotted tree. Kind of funny. I used to get more wound dressing
on me than the tree. That stuff is a carcinogen. I am lucky I do not have
cancer. Thanks in advance for sending me the pictures.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.



"Jangchub" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 07:07:04 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

Great!

Did you know if you prune a sprout in the correct place you get a doughnut
as well? You do. Just prune to the swollen area without leaving a stub
or
injuring the swollen area.

My biggest problem with people I work with is to get them to respect trunk
tissue when removing symplastless branches. Look he
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ss_inside.html

They constantly wound the trunk and they are closed minded. Except for
the
exception on my best friend who will listen.

Oh.well, I look forward to some of your pictures from your area.

Yes, I do know this about smaller cuts. Live oaks are basically trash
trees. They are beautiful, but a huge mess most of the time. Lower
branches are constantly dying and need to be cleaned up. The canopy
is so dense there isn't enough light to support the lower branching,
so yearly it needs to be pruned out.

Finally, we bought an electric, pole chain saw. Trick here is to use
Lysol betwen trees. I'll try to get photo's today.

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Don

We are having an intelligent conversation here. Bug off your attitude
loser.

You are getting to be a royal pain.
Good,

Beware of so called tree biologist who have never studied biology.

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts. All
have no problems healing over such cuts.

First, trees do not heal wounds. Trees do not heal wounds.
Wound dressing does not stop rot or the spread of disease. So why would
you apply it at all?

Trees compartmentalize and they do not heal.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.



I'm baaaackkk! Is yu scaredid?

Oh dude/dudette. You simply did not really reply to all that I said. Just
one potshot at one sentence. No one mentioned the word "wounds" except you.
Whatever the context, verbage, the trees did very good. Something you don't
seem to want to address. Some politico and meaningless word from you.
Well, guess you can't take the heat (kitchen).

Jang: What the live oaks do producing dead limbs is seeking the sun in
failure. The limbs cease to be productive, the tree stops feeding it.
Makes sense to me as a more selective tree, rather supporting stuff that's
not cutting the mustard. Not purty, but very functional. Makes even more
sense when you consider its fighting the heat, drought conditions, and
Juniper Ashe intrusion as well. Hardly a trash tree... Don't apologize or
make excuses to Symp.

Have a Juniper Ashe remnant trunk about 4' tall on my land. Trunk is almost
2' in diameter. Looks like someone cut it down that way. Dried up etc. I
don't particularly like these trees. But, if still alive, I'd definitely
prune it to 6' high for branching and let it be. I don't see any nearly
this thick at the trunk anywhere around in the county.

For those who don't know, its typical to cut a Juniper Ashe about 2' above
the soil line. Leave it be for a year or 2, then, knock it over. Failure,
wait another year or 2. Common if the immediate rooting is in heavy
limestone. Sorry, that's common in central TX. May be different in other
locations. Am aware their may be exceptions. My location, blueberry
version. Rocky mountain version has red berries. I am not an arborist. I
do observe and am aware of differences of other areas, weather conditions,
temperatures, soils, and other things that contribute to differences.
Something not so common here...
Dave

Where did you go?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts. All
have no problems healing over such cuts.

First, trees do not heal wounds. Trees do not heal wounds.
Wound dressing does not stop rot or the spread of disease. So why would
you apply it at all?

Trees compartmentalize and they do not heal.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.



I'm baaaackkk! Is yu scaredid?

Oh dude/dudette. You simply did not really reply to all that I said.
Just one potshot at one sentence. No one mentioned the word "wounds"
except you. Whatever the context, verbage, the trees did very good.
Something you don't seem to want to address. Some politico and
meaningless word from you. Well, guess you can't take the heat (kitchen).

Jang: What the live oaks do producing dead limbs is seeking the sun in
failure. The limbs cease to be productive, the tree stops feeding it.
Makes sense to me as a more selective tree, rather supporting stuff that's
not cutting the mustard. Not purty, but very functional. Makes even more
sense when you consider its fighting the heat, drought conditions, and
Juniper Ashe intrusion as well. Hardly a trash tree... Don't apologize
or make excuses to Symp.

Have a Juniper Ashe remnant trunk about 4' tall on my land. Trunk is
almost 2' in diameter. Looks like someone cut it down that way. Dried up
etc. I don't particularly like these trees. But, if still alive, I'd
definitely prune it to 6' high for branching and let it be. I don't see
any nearly this thick at the trunk anywhere around in the county.

For those who don't know, its typical to cut a Juniper Ashe about 2' above
the soil line. Leave it be for a year or 2, then, knock it over.
Failure, wait another year or 2. Common if the immediate rooting is in
heavy limestone. Sorry, that's common in central TX. May be different in
other locations. Am aware their may be exceptions. My location,
blueberry version. Rocky mountain version has red berries. I am not an
arborist. I do observe and am aware of differences of other areas,
weather conditions, temperatures, soils, and other things that contribute
to differences. Something not so common here...
Dave