On 1/4/08 7:07 AM, in article ,
"enigma" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

On 1/3/08 6:22 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:
what is it, more like 25-30 miles if you drive? i wasn't
doing much of that today either.

Sounds about right. It a typical "can't get therah from
herah" situation.

i had to explain to my brother in Amherst that it really does
take an hour to get there from here. it doesn't *look* that
far on a map, but the cowpaths for highways wander in big
loops....

And you can use 101 for part of it!

And today there is - drive son to school in the dark and
get skates sharpened. Thank heavens for down.

i have insulated overalls & a blanket lined barn coat. oddly
enough, even when it's below freezing, i end up at least
unbuttoning the coat, or taking it off when i'm working with
Perl or in the chicken barn. and i'm usually one of those
people who is cold all the time.
lee


If I'm doing something, I'm generally OK with a couple of layers. Standing
still waiting for the bus - long johns and extra layers.

C

Varities you don't find in most of the catalogs. Bush beans, Pole beans,
radishes, tomatoes and etc. Everything I have got from them was exactly
what they said it would be.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids

Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

On 1/3/08 9:18 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:
i'm going to reroof in the next year or two & it's going
to be a metal roof. a hipped roof Federal doesn't have
much pitch.

You going to put better than R50 up there too? That was a
big deciding factor when we looked at roofing - metal is
wonderful, but can be a heat suck.

the metal roof will be insulated & it'll be built with an air
space between it & the existing roof to create a bit more
pitch and allow for vents & soffits, which we don't currently
have.
the sum total insulation in this house is about 8" of
vermiculite in the attic crawl. heat suck is nothing new.
lee

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Got the nasty gram that I need to shovel out the mail box better. It was,
but the town plowed it in again...

I actually have an extra mailbox mounted on a sawhorse I keep out
behind the garage for just those circumstances ;-
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Got the nasty gram that I need to shovel out the mail box better. It was,
but the town plowed it in again...

I actually have an extra mailbox mounted on a sawhorse I keep out
behind the garage for just those circumstances ;-

My Dad has a sliding mail box that can be extended next to the primary.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
"Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound
or outward circumference of Energy.
Energy is Eternal Delight"
William Blake

On 1/4/08 6:48 PM, in article ,
"enigma" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

On 1/3/08 9:18 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:
i'm going to reroof in the next year or two & it's going
to be a metal roof. a hipped roof Federal doesn't have
much pitch.

You going to put better than R50 up there too? That was a
big deciding factor when we looked at roofing - metal is
wonderful, but can be a heat suck.

the metal roof will be insulated & it'll be built with an air
space between it & the existing roof to create a bit more
pitch and allow for vents & soffits, which we don't currently
have.
the sum total insulation in this house is about 8" of
vermiculite in the attic crawl. heat suck is nothing new.
lee


Sounds good. I'm still happy we opted for the R50 roof. We wanted more, but
the building inspector was unused to super insulated houses and other such
energy saving things (no solatubes like I wanted, no berm, no heat pump...
IDIOT).


The only thing I'd change is to replace the shingles with slate or metal
tiles (look like traditional roofing) and I want to add a heater to the back
of the house on the roof to melt snow and prevent ice dams. But so many
trees went down in back (into the woods) that there is more sun there....

Cheryl

On 1/4/08 7:06 PM, in article ,
"Ann" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Got the nasty gram that I need to shovel out the mail box better. It was,
but the town plowed it in again...

I actually have an extra mailbox mounted on a sawhorse I keep out
behind the garage for just those circumstances ;-
That's a thought

This year, I'd stick one a pointy post and keep it handy

C

On 1/4/08 7:11 PM, in article
, "Bill"
wrote:

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Got the nasty gram that I need to shovel out the mail box better. It was,
but the town plowed it in again...

I actually have an extra mailbox mounted on a sawhorse I keep out
behind the garage for just those circumstances ;-

My Dad has a sliding mail box that can be extended next to the primary.

Bill
Pictures?

In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 1/4/08 7:11 PM, in article
, "Bill"
wrote:

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Got the nasty gram that I need to shovel out the mail box better. It was,
but the town plowed it in again...

I actually have an extra mailbox mounted on a sawhorse I keep out
behind the garage for just those circumstances ;-

My Dad has a sliding mail box that can be extended next to the primary.

Bill
Pictures?

I can do that.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
"Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound
or outward circumference of Energy.
Energy is Eternal Delight"
William Blake

Bill expounded:


I can do that.

Cool, I'd like to see it, too! )
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Sounds good. I'm still happy we opted for the R50 roof. We wanted more, but
the building inspector was unused to super insulated houses and other such
energy saving things (no solatubes like I wanted, no berm, no heat pump...
IDIOT).

Huh? Why would he object to heat pumps or especially solatubes??
There's a solatube in my inlaw's house down in Tennessee, it's
fantastic, looks like the light is on in that (formerly) dark kitchen
all day long.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

On 1/5/08 7:12 AM, in article ,
"Ann" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Sounds good. I'm still happy we opted for the R50 roof. We wanted more, but
the building inspector was unused to super insulated houses and other such
energy saving things (no solatubes like I wanted, no berm, no heat pump...
IDIOT).

Huh? Why would he object to heat pumps or especially solatubes??
There's a solatube in my inlaw's house down in Tennessee, it's
fantastic, looks like the light is on in that (formerly) dark kitchen
all day long.

I believe the word idiot covers it rather completely. Anything "new" was no
go in his book and was rejected as not meeting code.

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

I believe the word idiot covers it rather completely. Anything "new" was no
go in his book and was rejected as not meeting code.

Oh, I got that, I guess my question was more rhetorical. Drunk with
power applies, too.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

In article
,
Bill wrote:

In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 1/4/08 7:11 PM, in article
, "Bill"
wrote:

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

Got the nasty gram that I need to shovel out the mail box better. It
was,
but the town plowed it in again...

I actually have an extra mailbox mounted on a sawhorse I keep out
behind the garage for just those circumstances ;-

My Dad has a sliding mail box that can be extended next to the primary.

Bill
Pictures?

I can do that.

Bill

alt.binaries.photos.original

Has

Mail Box snow Extension as a image.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
"Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound
or outward circumference of Energy.
Energy is Eternal Delight"
William Blake

On 1/5/08 10:58 AM, in article ,
"Ann" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

I believe the word idiot covers it rather completely. Anything "new" was no
go in his book and was rejected as not meeting code.

Oh, I got that, I guess my question was more rhetorical. Drunk with
power applies, too.


Understatement

C