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Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees do
not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A hormone?
I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling congress the way
to better forest health is more logging and more roads. Are you sure, Don
Staples, you don't have something to do with that?


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Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees
do not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A
hormone? I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling
congress the way to better forest health is more logging and more roads.
Are you sure, Don Staples, you don't have something to do with that?


No, I have nothing to do with it, but I am sure you are a complete dip shit.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


You are not a forester, tree expert, arborist, or biologist, you are a
fraud.


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Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees. They
are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth regulator is an
tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal term. Trees seal
and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time ago
when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies inside.
When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew. Farmers knew that
substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So, grow is grow, they
thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients. Until this day people
say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from the mother a fertilizer?
It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a plant term that has made
its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add elements essential for healthy
growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy source. Maybe when some people
learn where babies come from the fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just
maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal people
have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones are produced
by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many plant cells.
Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in the fallopian
tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes growth. Before we
knew where babies came from, we thought that materials deposited by males
stimulated growth of a very small already-formed individual. Time to stop
borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies. Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new cells
very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane. Gibberellin can
only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider growth increments
that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at their normal rate and
time, they elongate. We do not know, but we believe, that growth
regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only work so fast. They found
that out quick when they tried to process very fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.







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"symplastless" wrote in message
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Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal
term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as
well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time ago
when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies inside.
When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew. Farmers knew
that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So, grow is grow,
they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients. Until this day
people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from the mother a
fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a plant term
that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add elements
essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy source.
Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the fertilizer myth
will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones are
produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many plant
cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in the
fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that materials
deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small already-formed
individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies.
Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider
growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at
their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only work
so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process very fast
growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off more
bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field conceivable.

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"Don Staples" wrote in message
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"symplastless" wrote in message
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Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal
term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as
well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time
ago when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies
inside. When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew.
Farmers knew that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So,
grow is grow, they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients.
Until this day people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from
the mother a fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a
plant term that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add
elements essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy
source. Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the
fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones
are produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many
plant cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in
the fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that materials
deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small already-formed
individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies.
Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider
growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at
their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only
work so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process very
fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off
more bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field
conceivable.


Coming from you Don Staples that's a compliment.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.




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"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
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Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal
term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as
well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time
ago when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies
inside. When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew.
Farmers knew that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So,
grow is grow, they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients.
Until this day people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from
the mother a fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a
plant term that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add
elements essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy
source. Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the
fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones
are produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many
plant cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in
the fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that materials
deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small already-formed
individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies.
Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider
growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at
their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only
work so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process very
fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off
more bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field
conceivable.


Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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"symplastless" wrote in message
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"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
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Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an
animal term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant
term as well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time
ago when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies
inside. When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew.
Farmers knew that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So,
grow is grow, they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients.
Until this day people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from
the mother a fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is
a plant term that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add
elements essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy
source. Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the
fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones
are produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many
plant cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in
the fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that
materials deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small
already-formed individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers
and babies. Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in
wider growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature
at their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only
work so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process
very fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep
reminding us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off
more bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field
conceivable.


Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Butter Cup
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.

It comes from Pixie dust, just like your education and expertise.

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Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?



It comes from Pixie dust, just like your education and expertise.


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symplastless wrote:
Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees do
not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A hormone?
I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling congress the way
to better forest health is more logging and more roads. Are you sure, Don
Staples, you don't have something to do with that?


Plant hormones are called auxins but calling them hormones must be OK
because it was accepted as an answer on Jeopardy last night
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