Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees do
not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A hormone?
I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling congress the way
to better forest health is more logging and more roads. Are you sure, Don
Staples, you don't have something to do with that?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"symplastless" wrote in message
...
Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees
do not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A
hormone? I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling
congress the way to better forest health is more logging and more roads.
Are you sure, Don Staples, you don't have something to do with that?

No, I have nothing to do with it, but I am sure you are a complete dip shit.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.

You are not a forester, tree expert, arborist, or biologist, you are a
fraud.

What you are referring to is growth regulators.

Define a growth hormone in a tree.

Again trees do not have hormones.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.



"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:55:26 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees
do
not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A
hormone?
I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling congress the way
to better forest health is more logging and more roads. Are you sure, Don
Staples, you don't have something to do with that?

Really? There are endless articles by qualified resources which
disagree.

Hormone Interaction in Apical Dominance in Phaseolus vulgaris L.
TIN SHEIN1 and D. I. JACKSON

Lincoln College Canterbury, New Zealand

Received: 9 December 1970

Gibberellic acid (GA3), kinetin, and indole-3yl-acetic acid (IAA) were
applied to roots of Phaseolus vulgaris under two different light
intensities and when either young or old leaves were removed In all
cases GA3, promoted stem and lateral growth, especially when light
intensity was reduced. Promotion by GA3, of stem growth under reduced
light was reduced if IAA and kinetin were present; promotion of
lateral growth under reduced light was reduced if IAA was added and
eliminated if kinetin or kinetin plus IAA were added to GA3. Removal
of young and mature leaves reduced main stem growth; removal of young
leaves promoted, and of mature leaves reduced, lateral shoot growth.
We suggest that shoot growth and apical dominance are governed by the
balance of hormones present in elongating internodes. There may be two
ways of modifying this balance; firstly by altering light,
temperature, or nutrients, or by applying hormones generally to the
plant. Secondly, local modifications can be made by removing apices or
young leaves, or applying hormones in lanolin to specific areas.
Knowledge of both the general and local conditions may be necessary
for a complete understanding of apical dominance.

Physiologia Plantarum

Volume 90 Issue 1 Page 230-237, January 1994

To cite this article: Morris G. Cline (1994) The role of hormones in
apical dominance. New approaches to an old problem in plant
development
Physiologia Plantarum 90 (1) , 230-237
doi:10.1111/j.1399-3054.1994.tb02216.x
Prev Article Next Article
Abstract
The role of hormones in apical dominance. New approaches to an old
problem in plant development

* Morris G. Cline11Dept of Plant Biology, Ohio State Univ., 1735
Neil Ave., Columbus, OH 43210, USA.

*
1Dept of Plant Biology, Ohio State Univ., 1735 Neil Ave.,
Columbus, OH 43210, USA.

Abstract

The role of hormones in apical dominance has been under investigation
with traditional 'spray and weigh' methods for nearly 5 decades. Even
though the precision of hormone content analyses in tissue has greatly
improved in recent years, there have been no significant breakthroughs
in our understanding of the action mechanism of this classical
developmental response. Auxin appears to inhibit axillary bud
outgrowth whereas cytokinins will often promote it. Conclusive
evidence for a direct role of these or other hormones in apical
dominance has not been forthcoming. However, promising new tools and
approaches recently have begun to be utilized. The manipulation of
endogenous hormone levels via the use of transgenic plants transformed
with bacterial genes (iaaM and ipt from Agrobacterium tumefaciens and
iaaL from Pseudomonas syringae pv. savastanoi) has demonstrated
powerful effects of auxin and cytokinin on axillary bud outgrowth.
Also, possible auxin and cytokinin involvement of rolB and C genes
from Agrobacterium rhizogenes whose activity is associated with
reduced apical dominance in dicotyledons has received considerable
attention. The characterization of unique mRNAs and proteins in
non-growing and growing lateral buds before and after apical dominance
release is helping to lay the groundwork for the elucidation of signal
transduction and cell cycle regulation in this response. The use of
auxin-deficient, and auxin/ethylene-resistant mutants has provided
another approach for analyzing the role of these hormones. The
presumed eventual employment of molecular assay systems (SAUR/GH3
promoters fused with GUS reporter gene) which are presently being
developed for analyzing auxin localized in lateral buds will hopefully
provide a critical test for the direct auxin inhibition hypothesis.
This article is cited by:

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Marsilea drummondii A. Br
Gilles Pilate, Lucienne Sossountzov and Emile Miginiac

Laboratoire de Physiologie végétale, CNRS (UA 1180), T 53, 5ème étage,
Université P. et M. Curie, 4 Place Jussieu, 75252 Paris Cedex 05,
France

Terminal buds and successively subjacent lateral buds of the water
fern, Marsilea drummondii, were examined to determine the pattern of
hormone distribution in relation to apical dominance. Quantitative
levels of indole-3-acetic acid (IAA), abscisic acid (ABA), zeatin and
zeatin riboside (Z and ZR), and isopentenyladenosine (iPA) were
determined by a solid-phase immunoassay using polycional antihormone
antibodies. Enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay was used following a
one-step HPLC purification procedure to obtain the free hormones.
Active shoot apices contained the most IAA and Z-type cytokinins and
inhibited buds the least. No significant differences in ABA levels
were found leading to the conclusion that ABA did not play any role in
apical dominance. The normal precedence of the most rapid outgrowth of
the youngest inhibited bud as observed previously in decapitated
plants was well correlated with its very high level of iPA observed in
this study. The same phenomenon was observed in the median buds but
with a weaker amplitude. The presence of this storage form could
indicate that a bud at its entry into quiescence eventually looses the
ability to hydroxylate iPA to Z-type cytokinins when it is fully
inhibited. IAA and Z + ZR are concluded to be essential for lateral
bud growth.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1093800AA3CExo

www.rooting-hormones.com/apical.htm

http://www.mandops.co.uk/p3.htm

Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees. They
are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth regulator is an
tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal term. Trees seal
and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time ago
when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies inside.
When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew. Farmers knew that
substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So, grow is grow, they
thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients. Until this day people
say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from the mother a fertilizer?
It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a plant term that has made
its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add elements essential for healthy
growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy source. Maybe when some people
learn where babies come from the fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just
maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal people
have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones are produced
by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many plant cells.
Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in the fallopian
tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes growth. Before we
knew where babies came from, we thought that materials deposited by males
stimulated growth of a very small already-formed individual. Time to stop
borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies. Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new cells
very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane. Gibberellin can
only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider growth increments
that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at their normal rate and
time, they elongate. We do not know, but we believe, that growth
regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only work so fast. They found
that out quick when they tried to process very fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal
term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as
well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time ago
when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies inside.
When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew. Farmers knew
that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So, grow is grow,
they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients. Until this day
people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from the mother a
fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a plant term
that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add elements
essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy source.
Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the fertilizer myth
will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones are
produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many plant
cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in the
fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that materials
deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small already-formed
individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies.
Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider
growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at
their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only work
so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process very fast
growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off more
bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field conceivable.

"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal
term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as
well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time
ago when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies
inside. When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew.
Farmers knew that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So,
grow is grow, they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients.
Until this day people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from
the mother a fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a
plant term that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add
elements essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy
source. Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the
fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones
are produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many
plant cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in
the fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that materials
deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small already-formed
individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies.
Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider
growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at
their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only
work so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process very
fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off
more bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field
conceivable.

Coming from you Don Staples that's a compliment.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an animal
term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant term as
well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time
ago when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies
inside. When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew.
Farmers knew that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So,
grow is grow, they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients.
Until this day people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from
the mother a fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is a
plant term that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add
elements essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy
source. Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the
fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones
are produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many
plant cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in
the fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that materials
deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small already-formed
individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers and babies.
Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in wider
growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature at
their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only
work so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process very
fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off
more bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field
conceivable.

Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Not that it will do much good explaining it.

Auxin; cytokinin; ethylene; gibberellin; abscisic acid. These five
chemicals, in extremely minute amounts, regulate the growth of trees.
They are termed growth regulators. They regulate growth. Growth
regulator is an tree term. Hormone is an animal term. Heal is an
animal term. Trees seal and not heal wounds. Fertilizer is a plant
term as well.

Where do babies come from? Believe it or not, it was only a short time
ago when people thought females were born with small incomplete babies
inside. When the male added the "magic" ingredients, a baby grew.
Farmers knew that substances called fertilizers made plants grow. So,
grow is grow, they thought, and fertilizers must be male ingredients.
Until this day people say the male fertilizes the female. (Is milk from
the mother a fertilizer? It surely makes the baby grow.) Fertilizer is
a plant term that has made its way into animal terms. Fertilizers add
elements essential for healthy growth. Fertilizers do not add an energy
source. Maybe when some people learn where babies come from the
fertilizer myth will go away. Maybe! Just maybe.

In other words. Plant people have used more animal terms than animal
people have used plant terms. Here are only a few examples: Hormones
are produced by ductless glands. Growth regulators are produced by many
plant cells. Babies start when a swimming sperm connects with an egg in
the fallopian tube of animals. Fertilizer is a substance that promotes
growth. Before we knew where babies came from, we thought that
materials deposited by males stimulated growth of a very small
already-formed individual. Time to stop borrowing terms! Fertilizers
and babies. Hormones and growth regulators.

Back to growth regulators. Why by making trees grow faster does not
increase the quality of the wood. When cambial cells produce many new
cells very rapidly, the cells seldom mature in the axial plane.
Gibberellin can only work so fast. Rapid growth usually results in
wider growth increments that have many shorter cells. When cells mature
at their normal rate and time, they elongate. We do not know, but we
believe, that growth regulators, and especially gibberellin, can only
work so fast. They found that out quick when they tried to process
very fast growing trees for pulp.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting con artist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep
reminding us that we are not the boss.


In other words, when your "expertise" does not hold water, you spin off
more bull shit. You are not a forester, or an expert in any field
conceivable.

Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Butter Cup
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.

It comes from Pixie dust, just like your education and expertise.

In article , "Don Staples"
wrote:

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


It comes from Pixie dust, just like your education and expertise.

The answer for ALL symptomless's idiotic posers is "where the sun don't shine."

-paghat the ratgirl
--
visit my temperate gardening website:
http://www.paghat.com.html
visit my film reviews webiste:
http://www.weirdwildrealm.com

symplastless wrote:
Did you see the back cover of Tree Care Industry XIX, No3 -march 2008.
SUPER thrive? They say it has hormones in it and it helps trees? trees do
not have hormones. Hormones is an animal term. Trees have have growth
regulators. Could some one explain how a hormone is going to help a tree?
Its say the USDA said it helps trees above and below ground????? A hormone?
I guess its the same guy from the USDA that keeps telling congress the way
to better forest health is more logging and more roads. Are you sure, Don
Staples, you don't have something to do with that?


Plant hormones are called auxins but calling them hormones must be OK
because it was accepted as an answer on Jeopardy last night

"paghat" wrote in message
...
In article , "Don Staples"
wrote:

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


It comes from Pixie dust, just like your education and expertise.

The answer for ALL symptomless's idiotic posers is "where the sun don't
shine."

-paghat the ratgirl
--
visit my temperate gardening website:
http://www.paghat.com.html
visit my film reviews webiste:
http://www.weirdwildrealm.com

What a lack of knowledge.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"symplastless" wrote in message
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"paghat" wrote in message
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In article , "Don Staples"
wrote:

"symplastless" wrote in message
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Ok, Don Staples, where does a tree manufacture a growth hormone?


It comes from Pixie dust, just like your education and expertise.

The answer for ALL symptomless's idiotic posers is "where the sun don't
shine."

-paghat the ratgirl
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visit my temperate gardening website:
http://www.paghat.com.html
visit my film reviews webiste:
http://www.weirdwildrealm.com

What a lack of knowledge.


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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Buttercup
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.

What a maroon.