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Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean


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Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean



We have at least three neighbors that allow their dogs to run at
large. They get into trash cans, recycle bins, and crap on everyone's
lawn. Talking to the owners about it makes them mad, so I don't do
it.
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clarissa wrote:
Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean


Reminds me of story I heard where woman drove to park to walk her dog
but refused to pick up after it, which was a park rule. Wanna guess
where she found the poop one day

Also had a barber that told his neighbor that the neighbor's dog was
getting in his garbage. Of course the neighbor denied this.
So, barber put some Exlax near his garbage can. Next day neighbor was
bringing out rugs to hose off. Barber asked what problem was. Neighbor
said dog had diarrhea. Barber told him that you let your dog run loose,
you don't know what it might eat
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On Mar 30, 3:28*pm, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
clarissa wrote:
Hi to all gardeners *I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. *I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). *I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! *I may end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. *Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. *Thanks for any help. * Jean


Reminds me of story I heard where woman drove to park to walk her dog
but refused to pick up after it, which was a park rule. Wanna guess
where she found the poop one day

Also had a barber that told his neighbor that the neighbor's dog was
getting in his garbage. *Of course the neighbor denied this.
So, barber put some Exlax near his garbage can. *Next day neighbor was
bringing out rugs to hose off. Barber asked what problem was. *Neighbor
said dog had diarrhea. *Barber told him that you let your dog run loose,
you don't know what it might eat



That's the best idea yet!
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Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to
even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I
may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may
end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean



Take digital pictures of the culprits in action. Call out a medical waste
team for removal. Send the bill for removal with pictures to your neighbor
registered mail, another copy to your lawyer.

Or, you can let your grass grow beyond a 1" manicure. Let the poop dry for
a week and mulch it with the mower.

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How about a tax to support any military conflict/police action over 3 months
old?

An actual war, we can do what's been done in the past.




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Or, you can let your grass grow beyond a 1" manicure. Let the poop dry
for a week and mulch it with the mower.

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When we moved further out into the überburbs, we bought a property with a
beautiful back yard. Friends who saw it suggested that I put in a 4-hole
golf course, but I thought the sand traps would probably ruin it.

I keep the mower on the highest setting, which gives the lawn a lush, full
look. I'll cut more often, but I prefer this to the buzz-cut look.

In a cruel twist of O. Henry irony, my wife, gazing out on the wonderfulness
of that back yard, thought we should (finally) get a dog. After much
discussion, we agreed that she would get her dog, and I would get a digital
SLR camera. She came home one day with a Lab mix, and that was the end of my
beautiful back yard.

No, not because the dog poops - she does, but my wife is very good about
picking up after her. It's because the dog loves to run and play, and I
haven't yet taught her to replace her divets, which go flying every time she
makes a tight turn.

I'm going to work long and hard this season to repair that lawn. In
discussing the Meditation Walk (previous thread), I looked back at some of
the photos of the back yard two years ago
(http://www.tfrog93.com/garden/garden1.htm) and remembered how proud I was.
It's possible that I've retreated from that yard, leaving the field of
battle to the dog, and refocused my energies on the Walk as my new digital
photography garden...

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and I haven't yet taught her to replace her divets, which go
flying every time she makes a tight turn.


That sounds like there's something not right with the lawn. If divots
are coming out that easily I would suspect that the grass isn't rooted
as deeply as it should be.

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dwight wrote:
and I haven't yet taught her to replace her divets, which go
flying every time she makes a tight turn.


That sounds like there's something not right with the lawn. If divots
are coming out that easily I would suspect that the grass isn't rooted
as deeply as it should be.

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No, it definitely is not. Until I had a dog running around, it wasn't
noticeable.

Just picked up a couple big bags of seed and fertilizer, so I can do some
overseeding and repair the bald patches from last summer's construction. The
real problem may be that we are overwatered, being the low point in the
neighborhood and backing up to a reservoir. The ground is very spongy much
of the time during the rainy season. Like today...

dwight


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On Mar 30, 10:40*am, "clarissa" wrote:
Hi to all gardeners *I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. *I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). *I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! *I may end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. *Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. *Thanks for any help. * Jean


Clarissa-
A few years back I had an identical problem. A neighbor who walked
her dog every morning. For some reason her dog chose a corner of my
lawn to do it's regular dump, every single day.

I gritted my teeth and stayed silent for weeks. Then one morning, I
just couldn't handle it any more, and yelled out the window that I was
sick and tired of her dog crapping on my lawn. She yelled back that
the dog was only doing what was natural. I told her to have her dog
to naturally crap in her yard instead, or be curteous enough to clean
up after it.

She huffed off mad, but has never returned to this side of the street
to walk her dog again! Sometimes silence isn't golden!

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Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to
even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I
may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may
end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean


some simple suggestions:

get your garden fenced
get used to it
clean up every couple of days yourself
throw the poop back in to her garden
If it is your wet season let it wash in to your lawn. Unless you are
practically out there eating the dirt it will be bugger all problem

I have 2 dogs who crap on my lawn & 4 cats who also crap on the lawn time to
time. I either pick it up & drop it under a shrub for fertiliser or leave it
there in the rainy season to wash away. My neighbour goes round with a
shovel every few days & picks up his dogs crap round his garden.

rob






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Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to
even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I
may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may
end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean


Sometimes you have to be assertive. Do it as nicely as you can. If you
know neighbors, you may ask their advice because you want to address the
problem reasonably. We all have blind spots.

If you are within city limits, I'd be surprised if there aren't leash
laws. Only involve the dog catchers as a last resort. It takes $ to get
them out of the pound. She should have a real steep learning curve. Take
pictures if you can of the act being committed. If this is in the
country, learn to shoot a low velocity air rifle (It's negative
reinforcement for when her dog is on your property. If that doesn't get
her attention, get a high velocity air rifle.). In agricultural areas,
farmers take a dim view of dogs running wild. There must be county laws
against it.
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Hi to all gardeners I have a new neighbour with two dogs - she lets them
run everywhere and lets them poop etc. everywhere. I love dogs - have had
three over a 20 year period and not once have they ever been allowed to even
go into anyone elses yard (always tied up, which for a dog is a matter of
safety anyway). I am at my wits end and this morning I did something I may
regret - I took three piles of poopand left them on her sidewalk! I may end
up in her very bad books but how can someone be so inconsiderate. Does
anyone have any suggestions for the future - as to handling this more
diplomatically. Thanks for any help. Jean


If you live in a city, does it have an animal control department? Talk to them.


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its so frustrating, just confidently approach ur neighbour and say u do not want the dogs anywhere near ur garden then go from there at least then u have tried that option....
i had a neighbour who let there dog out and it wud poo on the front lawn (very small lawn) and watch it the not clean it up ..did it right in front of me standing outside my front door!! i just dont get some ppl!!
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In article ,
sammy-2-garden wrote:

hello all, i have joined this forum to be my help for this year of
gardening!!
i have a long garden which needs some attention

the main problem i have at the moment is ''poo'' from cat/fox on my
grass and in the bed, can i have some help on how to stop this as i
have a 16 months old little girl and wud like her to play outside.
(obviously have picked the bits up but need a long term solution )


Something to consider.

Bill who placed the **** below.

...........................

1: Pediatr Pulmonol. 2008 Feb;43(2):107-16.
Links

Childhood asthma epidemiology: insights from comparative studies of
rural and urban populations.
Wong GW, Chow CM.
Department of Pediatrics, Prince of Wales Hospital, Chinese University
of Hong Kong, Shatin, NT, China.
Asthma is one of the most common chronic respiratory disorders. Many
epidemiology studies have suggested an increasing trend of asthma in
many different regions of the world but the exact reasons explaining
such trend remain unclear. Nevertheless, changing environmental factors
are most likely important in explaining the trend of asthma. Studies in
the past decade have clearly shown a mark difference in the prevalence
between urban and rural regions. The consistent findings of a markedly
lower prevalence of asthma in children and adults who have been brought
up in a farming environment clearly indicate the importance of
environmental influence of asthma development. Although the exact
protective environmental factors in the rural region remain to be
defined,

****there have been many studies suggesting that early exposure to
microbes or microbial products may play a role in modulating the immune
system so as to reduce the future risk of asthma and allergies.****


Advances in the understanding of the genetic predisposition and how
these genetic factors may interact with specific environment factors are
of paramount importance for the future development of primary preventive
strategies for asthma. Copyright 2007 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
PMID: 18092349 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

.................................................. ............

Ann Allergy Asthma Immunol. 2006 Apr;96(4):571-8.
Links

Effect of animal contact and microbial exposures on the prevalence of
atopy and asthma in urban vs rural children in India.
Vedanthan PK, Mahesh PA, Vedanthan R, Holla AD, Liu AH.
University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, Denver, USA.

BACKGROUND: Environmental factors, including microbial exposures and
close animal contact, are implicated in the lower prevalence of asthma
and allergy in rural vs urban children. OBJECTIVES: To determine (1) the
prevalence of asthma, rhinitis, eczema, and atopic sensitization in
rural and urban children in India; (2) differences in microbial and
animal exposures in these locales; and (3) whether differences in
environmental exposures account for the different rates of asthma and
atopy in these locales. METHODS: One child from each of 50 urban
(Mysore) and 50 rural (Vinobha) households in southern India was
randomly selected for data analysis. Allergy, asthma, health,
environment, and lifestyle information was obtained using a
questionnaire and household inspections. Atopy was determined via skin
prick testing for common allergens. Endotoxin content was measured in
house dust samples. RESULTS: Children from rural vs urban areas had
lower prevalences of self-reported asthma (8% vs 30%; P = .005),
rhinitis (22% vs 42%; P = .03), and atopic sensitization (36% vs 58%; P
= .03). Higher median dust endotoxin loads were found in rural vs urban
households (6.50 x 10(4) EU/m2 vs 1.27 x 10(4) EU/m2; P .001). In
multivariate analysis, close indoor animal contact (adjusted odds ratio
[OR] 0.2; 90% confidence interval [CI], 0.05-0.9), outdoor animal
contact (OR, 0.3; 90% CI, 0.1-0.8), and exclusive breastfeeding for at
least 6 months (OR, 0.2; 90% CI, 0.1-0.5) were associated with lower
atopic sensitization; mud flooring was associated with lower
self-reported wheezing (OR, 0.1; 90% CI, 0.02-1.0).

****CONCLUSION: Children in India who live with close animal contact and
mud flooring and who were exclusively breastfed in infancy are less
likely to develop asthma, rhinitis, and atopic sensitization.****


PMID: 16680928 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2) ... best way to grass a patch of mud, very shaded damp area


Perhaps a piece of sod from another area of your garden.

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