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We foolishly planted 3 potentially large trees very close to one
another on a little hill behind our water garden. They all look just
wonderful now, 5 years later.

But it's obvious that very soon they will be growing into one another
and dwarfing the pond and hill. If possible, I'd like to keep them
just the size they are, and would need to act this year before they
become too large to easily prune.

They a 1 Norway spruce, about 10 feet tall
1 Eastern hemlock, about 12 feet tall
1 Western blue pine, about 15 feet tall

They are in a triangle with each trunk about 10 feet from the others.
I know, I know, we were idiots.

But all three trees are thriving, and we love the way they look now.

Is it possible to "bonsai" them to keep them this size? Should we
leave this to the pros, or could you point us at a good book?

Thanks,
jon
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Jon wrote:

We foolishly planted 3 potentially large trees very close to one
another on a little hill behind our water garden. They all look just
wonderful now, 5 years later.

But it's obvious that very soon they will be growing into one another
and dwarfing the pond and hill. If possible, I'd like to keep them
just the size they are, and would need to act this year before they
become too large to easily prune.

They a 1 Norway spruce, about 10 feet tall
1 Eastern hemlock, about 12 feet tall
1 Western blue pine, about 15 feet tall

They are in a triangle with each trunk about 10 feet from the others.
I know, I know, we were idiots.

But all three trees are thriving, and we love the way they look now.

Is it possible to "bonsai" them to keep them this size? Should we
leave this to the pros, or could you point us at a good book?

Thanks,
jon


Just about everyone I know has made mistakes on planting trees and
scrubs.

Here is a start .

http://www.brucestreemoving.com/ifor...ffset=4&getOff
set=true&jsEnabled=true&start=true&fID=33

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
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I would recomend this book. TREE PRUNING, worldwide photoguide.
www.shigoandtrees.com

If you prune correctly, targets, timing and dose it can be done. I would
have to see the trees to suggest where to make the cuts.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


We foolishly planted 3 potentially large trees very close to one
another on a little hill behind our water garden. They all look just
wonderful now, 5 years later.

But it's obvious that very soon they will be growing into one another
and dwarfing the pond and hill. If possible, I'd like to keep them
just the size they are, and would need to act this year before they
become too large to easily prune.

They a 1 Norway spruce, about 10 feet tall
1 Eastern hemlock, about 12 feet tall
1 Western blue pine, about 15 feet tall

They are in a triangle with each trunk about 10 feet from the others.
I know, I know, we were idiots.

But all three trees are thriving, and we love the way they look now.

Is it possible to "bonsai" them to keep them this size? Should we
leave this to the pros, or could you point us at a good book?

Thanks,
jon



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Jon wrote:

We foolishly planted 3 potentially large trees very close to one
another on a little hill behind our water garden. They all look just
wonderful now, 5 years later.

But it's obvious that very soon they will be growing into one another
and dwarfing the pond and hill. If possible, I'd like to keep them
just the size they are, and would need to act this year before they
become too large to easily prune.

They a 1 Norway spruce, about 10 feet tall
1 Eastern hemlock, about 12 feet tall
1 Western blue pine, about 15 feet tall

They are in a triangle with each trunk about 10 feet from the others.
I know, I know, we were idiots.

But all three trees are thriving, and we love the way they look now.


Paraphrasing something I saw on a web site seems to address this problem, as
follows:

"New growth on evergreens are called "candles" because of the candle-like
shape of the branch tips.
Cutting the candles back halfway, before the needles unfold, will keep the
tree more compact.

Candling should occur between late March and mid-May, depending on the area
and the weather.

Don't try to prune once the needles have opened fully or you may end up with a
misshapen plant,
since these trees cannot replace their growing tips"

I think simplistic makes it sound more complicated than it has to be.

Sherwin




Is it possible to "bonsai" them to keep them this size? Should we
leave this to the pros, or could you point us at a good book?

Thanks,
jon


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sherwindu wrote:

Jon wrote:

We foolishly planted 3 potentially large trees very close to one
another on a little hill behind our water garden. They all look just
wonderful now, 5 years later.

But it's obvious that very soon they will be growing into one another
and dwarfing the pond and hill. If possible, I'd like to keep them
just the size they are, and would need to act this year before they
become too large to easily prune.

They a 1 Norway spruce, about 10 feet tall
1 Eastern hemlock, about 12 feet tall
1 Western blue pine, about 15 feet tall

They are in a triangle with each trunk about 10 feet from the others.
I know, I know, we were idiots.

But all three trees are thriving, and we love the way they look now.


Paraphrasing something I saw on a web site seems to address this problem, as
follows:

"New growth on evergreens are called "candles" because of the candle-like
shape of the branch tips.
Cutting the candles back halfway, before the needles unfold, will keep the
tree more compact.

Candling should occur between late March and mid-May, depending on the area
and the weather.

Don't try to prune once the needles have opened fully or you may end up with a
misshapen plant,
since these trees cannot replace their growing tips"

I think simplistic makes it sound more complicated than it has to be.

Sherwin


I should clarify some of my previous remarks. The remarks about candles are only

true for pine trees. Are you sure you have a Western Blue Pine and not a Blue
Spruce?
The Western Blue Pine is also known as a Bhutan Pine.

The other two trees, the Hemlock and the Norway Spruce can be trimmed to your
taste.
However, anything you cut off will probably grow back in a few years. The trees
will
probably bump into eachother eventually. The result of this is that the branches
touching
will die off, but the other branches should be ok. The Hemlock is the weakest of
the
three trees, and eventually will be pushed out alltogether.

Sherwin



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