I am currently developing an anti snail/slug pot/planter. Any information you have regarding what works best for you would be greatly appreciated. Copper, pellets, sharp gravel etc? Obviously if anyone provides enough info which leads to the final product will recieve more pots then they will ever need. The pots we are currently testing are around 94% effective. This is not good enough! We all know what 1 slug can do! We are aiming for 100% before our product is available. As mentioned before, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I am currently developing an anti snail/slug pot/planter. Any
information you have regarding what works best for you would be greatly
appreciated. Copper, pellets, sharp gravel etc? Obviously if anyone
provides enough info which leads to the final product will recieve more
pots then they will ever need. The pots we are currently testing are
around 94% effective. This is not good enough! We all know what 1 slug
can do! We are aiming for 100% before our product is available. As
mentioned before, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Iron-Phosphate, a.k.a. ferric phosphate. Sheesh.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

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fedupofsalt wrote:

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I am currently developing an anti snail/slug pot/planter. Any
information you have regarding what works best for you would be greatly
appreciated. Copper, pellets, sharp gravel etc? Obviously if anyone
provides enough info which leads to the final product will recieve more
pots then they will ever need. The pots we are currently testing are
around 94% effective. This is not good enough! We all know what 1 slug
can do! We are aiming for 100% before our product is available. As
mentioned before, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Iron-Phosphate, a.k.a. ferric phosphate. Sheesh.


how do you use it?
ok around food plants?

Iron is a dietary necessity for humans and we add rock phosphate
to our gardens to support plants and microorganisms. Iron
phosphate is safe for gardens up to the day of harvest. It needs
to be re-applied every 2 to 3 weeks for maximum protection.

The product you buy will come as granuls that need to be cast
where you want protection. Maximum protection comes after one to
two days. 99% of the commercial product is inert ingredients.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

The best way to remove slugs from your garden is to get one of those
small yellow margarine tubs and put beer in it. Put it under your hosta
and the next morning it will be full of slugs. Best of all you can drink
what ever beer you don't use. You don't need to full the tub. Half way
will do. Try it, you'll like it.

Karl

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I am currently developing an anti snail/slug pot/planter. Any
information you have regarding what works best for you would be
greatly
appreciated. Copper, pellets, sharp gravel etc? Obviously if anyone
provides enough info which leads to the final product will recieve
more
pots then they will ever need. The pots we are currently testing are
around 94% effective. This is not good enough! We all know what 1 slug
can do! We are aiming for 100% before our product is available. As
mentioned before, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Iron-Phosphate, a.k.a. ferric phosphate. Sheesh.

how do you use it?
ok around food plants?

Iron is a dietary necessity for humans and we add rock phosphate
to our gardens to support plants and microorganisms. Iron
phosphate is safe for gardens up to the day of harvest. It needs
to be re-applied every 2 to 3 weeks for maximum protection.

The product you buy will come as granuls that need to be cast
where you want protection. Maximum protection comes after one to
two days. 99% of the commercial product is inert ingredients.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

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Karl P Anderson wrote:

The best way to remove slugs from your garden is to get one of those
small yellow margarine tubs and put beer in it. Put it under your hosta
and the next morning it will be full of slugs. Best of all you can drink
what ever beer you don't use. You don't need to full the tub. Half way
will do. Try it, you'll like it.

Karl

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fedupofsalt wrote:

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results, please visit
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Question: What works best for you?

- copper
- sharp sand/gravel
- salt/manual
- other. please state
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am currently developing an anti snail/slug pot/planter. Any
information you have regarding what works best for you would be
greatly
appreciated. Copper, pellets, sharp gravel etc? Obviously if anyone
provides enough info which leads to the final product will recieve
more
pots then they will ever need. The pots we are currently testing are
around 94% effective. This is not good enough! We all know what 1 slug
can do! We are aiming for 100% before our product is available. As
mentioned before, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Iron-Phosphate, a.k.a. ferric phosphate. Sheesh.

how do you use it?
ok around food plants?

Iron is a dietary necessity for humans and we add rock phosphate
to our gardens to support plants and microorganisms. Iron
phosphate is safe for gardens up to the day of harvest. It needs
to be re-applied every 2 to 3 weeks for maximum protection.

The product you buy will come as granuls that need to be cast
where you want protection. Maximum protection comes after one to
two days. 99% of the commercial product is inert ingredients.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related



Most slugs prefer micro breweries and, like civilized creatures, prefer
to drink it from a glass. Stouts are good. Be sure to put it by
your front gate or on your porch for maximum effectiveness. Where do you
live again, exactly? A google map would help the slugs to find their way
to your trap.

Charlie! Don't crowd me.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

Most slugs prefer micro breweries and, like civilized
creatures, prefer to drink it from a glass. Stouts are
good. Be sure to put it by your front gate or on your porch
for maximum effectiveness. Where do you live again,
exactly? A google map would help the slugs to find their
way to your trap.

Charlie! Don't crowd me.

Billy, do you brew?
we made an exceptional batch of Scarborough Faire a few weeks
ago.... too bad you're on the wrong coast
we currently have Maple Ale (seasonal, made with sap not
syrup), Scarborough Faire (unhopped, preserved with herbs) &
two pale ales. there's two batches of some kind fermenting in
the dining room, but i wasn't here when T brewed them. i think
one is a Barley Wine though.
it's about time to brew up the Spruce beers as well...

lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

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enigma wrote:

Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

Most slugs prefer micro breweries and, like civilized
creatures, prefer to drink it from a glass. Stouts are
good. Be sure to put it by your front gate or on your porch
for maximum effectiveness. Where do you live again,
exactly? A google map would help the slugs to find their
way to your trap.

Charlie! Don't crowd me.

Billy, do you brew?
we made an exceptional batch of Scarborough Faire a few weeks
ago.... too bad you're on the wrong coast
we currently have Maple Ale (seasonal, made with sap not
syrup), Scarborough Faire (unhopped, preserved with herbs) &
two pale ales. there's two batches of some kind fermenting in
the dining room, but i wasn't here when T brewed them. i think
one is a Barley Wine though.
it's about time to brew up the Spruce beers as well...

lee

No. Made some mead once but I don't brew. I may have to rethink that.
Brewing is far more complicated than winemaking. Grapes have acidity to
fight back the micro-critter beer doesn't and caution to the point of
neurosis is beneficial for a brewer. Then there is the malting and the
roasting. I've never felt comfortable not being in charge of all the
parameters of a project. Lastly, to control the dextrins, the mouth
feel, multiple temps for varying times are needed and from this I know
from nothing. One bit of information I did picked up along the way, if
you are just interested in the liberating effects of ethanol, is that
nothing ferments faster than pineapple juice;-)

à ta santé, prost
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

In article , Karl P Anderson
wrote:

The best way to remove slugs from your garden is to get one of those
small yellow margarine tubs and put beer in it. Put it under your hosta
and the next morning it will be full of slugs. Best of all you can drink
what ever beer you don't use. You don't need to full the tub. Half way
will do. Try it, you'll like it.

Karl

I note you wisely don't repeat the false gardeners' "wisdom" that bear
kills slugs. Unless deep enough they crawl right back out so that they
MIGHT drown, beer doesn't kill slugs. But FRESH beer (they don't like it
flat) is the ideal bait to trap them alive (potentially the alcohol
content COULD kill slugs but it evaporates out of the beer in a matter of
minutes, so essentially they're wading into safe stuff).

If you have no use for a lot of drunken live slugs, you have to personally
take them out of the beer traps to kill them. They're edible by the way,
you can find cleaning instructions several places on-line. Mash 'em and
mix 'em with muffin mix, you'll get a day's worth of protein and you'll
shit pretty. It's the sort of recipe that makes me sad to be a vegetarian.
Slug muffins, mmmmmm.

Here's my article on iron phosphate and slugs:
http://www.paghat.com/slugcontrol.html

On the myth coffee grounds kill slugs:
http://www.paghat.com/coffeeslugs.html

partial repost of rec.gardens commentary on slugs and beer:

Near-beer also works as a good attractant, though without the alcohol
content it is all the more important that the trap be one they cannot
reach themselves out of. STALE near-beer let alone stale beer does not
attract them; the Univ. of Colorado study said it worked only one full day
& beer had to be changed every other day to keep working, but in Univ of
Ohio study they changed the bait only once a week (though they were not
killing the slugs, they were taking population measurements).

The study at the Universitiy of Colorado whimsically discovered that slugs
dislike some beers & just won't pay attention them, but rather liked
Michelob & Budweiser, & were totally enamored of Kingsbury Malt (which is
not alcoholic & did not kill many slugs, but the Colorado study used
professional traps deep enough to drown whatever climbed in). The
Universitiy of Ohio study wasn't so much to test control measures but to
take population & size/age & species statistics for a given area. A slug
hide-habitat was set over a sunken container of beer as the bait, &
changed weekly. The slugs were not killed. They accumulated in the habitat
above the beer where they were counted, size & ages recorded, & species
identified, then discarded. The traps did not kill many of the slugs that
hid comfortably in the habitats after being attracted by the beer. *In
this study beer was found to be a mediocre attractant overall, because
population estimates based on number of egg masses located was far greater
than could be shown with beer-traps.

But another study done inside greenouses found the attractant-rate of beer
to be very high in comparison to metaldhyde-based baits (unfortunately
they didn't compare to Slugo or EscarGo which is safer stuff). The study
was for four days only, performed in a series of greenhouses by the
Entymology Society of America, & they caught 300 slugs with beer but only
28 with metaldehyde bait. The Entymology Society did use the relatively
ineffective shallow pans flush with the ground.

Other findings from the whimsical Colorado study:

Slugs don't like flat beer at all, they want it fresh.
Slugs don't like Rainier Beer, Strohs, Pabst Blue Ribbon, Coors, or
Millers. Anyone who likes these beers lacks even the good sense of a slug.
Anheiser-Busch beers were across the board better liked, inducing one
soul to suggest a new brand, Slugweiser; but nothing equalled
non-alcoholic Kingsbury Malt in slug appeal.

Slugs don't like wine. Gallo Wine was slightly more appealing than
plain water, but not by much.

-paghat the ratgirl
--
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http://www.paghat.com
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(paghat) wrote in
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Slugs don't like flat beer at all, they want it fresh.
Slugs don't like Rainier Beer, Strohs, Pabst Blue Ribbon,
Coors, or
Millers. Anyone who likes these beers lacks even the good
sense of a slug. Anheiser-Busch beers were across the
board better liked, inducing one soul to suggest a new
brand, Slugweiser; but nothing equalled non-alcoholic
Kingsbury Malt in slug appeal.

is Kingsbury Malt a regional thing?

Slugs don't like wine. Gallo Wine was slightly more
appealing than plain water, but not by much.

was that a white or a red? i can see water being a lot more
attractive than a merlot...
has anyone tried that lovely gack Boone's Farm stuff on
slugs?

-paghat the ratgirl

i see your death was overexaggerated
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

On Jun 18, 12:35*am, Karl P Anderson wrote:
The best way to remove slugs from your garden is to get one of those
small yellow margarine tubs and put beer in it. Put it under your hosta
and the next morning it will be full of slugs. Best of all you can drink
* what ever beer you don't use. You don't need to full the tub. Half way
will do. Try it, you'll like it.


I've seen that referred to as a "slug bar".

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:26:56 -0700, Billy wrote:


Most slugs prefer micro breweries and, like civilized creatures, prefer
to drink it from a glass. Stouts are good. Be sure to put it by
your front gate or on your porch for maximum effectiveness. Where do you
live again, exactly? A google map would help the slugs to find their way
to your trap.

Why, you old effer, I resemble those remarks, as you well know.


Charlie! Don't crowd me.

Yeah, quit wasting perfectly good stout...the chaleria set the record
straight.....beer doesn't kill slugs......sheesh......

Charlie

Thanks kid. I think you just queered the whole deal, and I was this
close . . . (sigh).
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related