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I'm told it's hopeless, but maybe some genius here has a solution.

I had a pair of Hibiscus vines taken out several months ago,
supposedly the whole root.

Hah, and yet again, hah! It's coming up all over the place. I am
willing to do almost anything to get rid of the root system. The area
involved is not near anything else that would be harmed. Gardener
says not even Roundup will do the trick.

Is there ANY way to get rid of it?

TIA

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Artful Dodger wrote:
I'm told it's hopeless, but maybe some genius here has a solution.

I had a pair of Hibiscus vines taken out several months ago,
supposedly the whole root.

Hah, and yet again, hah! It's coming up all over the place. I am
willing to do almost anything to get rid of the root system. The area
involved is not near anything else that would be harmed. Gardener
says not even Roundup will do the trick.

Is there ANY way to get rid of it?

TIA


http://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/25496 has some ideas.

But if you absolutely refuse to use herbicides then manually cutting off
shoots as soon as they appear over a long enough period will eventually
control the vines -- no plant can store infinite resources. After seven
years I have an occasional survivor pop through the soil but I just mow it
and don't obsess.

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[Knoxville, TN, USA]
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On Sep 16, 3:36 pm, John McGaw wrote:
Artful Dodger wrote:
I'm told it's hopeless, but maybe some genius here has a solution.


I had a pair of Hibiscus vines taken out several months ago,
supposedly the whole root.


Hah, and yet again, hah! It's coming up all over the place. I am
willing to do almost anything to get rid of the root system. The area
involved is not near anything else that would be harmed. Gardener
says not even Roundup will do the trick.


Is there ANY way to get rid of it?


TIA


http://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/25496has some ideas.

But if you absolutely refuse to use herbicides


NO, I DON'T refuse! Was just quoting the gardener. I would be
happy to use something that will get rid of it.

What would you suggest?

then manually cutting off
shoots as soon as they appear over a long enough period will eventually
control the vines -- no plant can store infinite resources.


Would rather do something effective NOW rather than keep cutting.
Some of the roots are under a porch, so I'd have to keep opening
the (tiny) gate and crawling under the porch.

So, if you or any other member can suggest something
"cruel" g and effective, please post!

TIA

After seven
years I have an occasional survivor pop through the soil but I just mow it
and don't obsess.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]http://johnmcgaw.com


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Artful Dodger wrote:
On Sep 16, 3:36 pm, John McGaw wrote:
Artful Dodger wrote:
I'm told it's hopeless, but maybe some genius here has a solution.
I had a pair of Hibiscus vines taken out several months ago,
supposedly the whole root.
Hah, and yet again, hah! It's coming up all over the place. I am
willing to do almost anything to get rid of the root system. The area
involved is not near anything else that would be harmed. Gardener
says not even Roundup will do the trick.
Is there ANY way to get rid of it?
TIA

http://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/25496 has some ideas.

But if you absolutely refuse to use herbicides


NO, I DON'T refuse! Was just quoting the gardener. I would be
happy to use something that will get rid of it.

What would you suggest?

then manually cutting off
shoots as soon as they appear over a long enough period will eventually
control the vines -- no plant can store infinite resources.


Would rather do something effective NOW rather than keep cutting.
Some of the roots are under a porch, so I'd have to keep opening
the (tiny) gate and crawling under the porch.

So, if you or any other member can suggest something
"cruel" g and effective, please post!

TIA

After seven
years I have an occasional survivor pop through the soil but I just mow it
and don't obsess.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]http://johnmcgaw.com



Did you read the document I gave you the link to? They give some good
information although some of the herbicides they mention are not easy for
the lay person to obtain. The one you can easily get is glyphosate in the
form of Roundup (and others) and which is available at every borg. I would
buy the smallest available container of the concentrate "brush killer"
strength Roundup, mix it to their highest recommended concentration and
then apply that carefully to the shoots. Or you could buy the regular
strength and then make a more concentrated mix than they recommend. The
mixed material has a relatively short life after mixing so do it in small
quantities. Apply it only when the plant is in active growing mode, not
when it is cold and dark since it is taken up by the foliage only when the
plant is actively "working". Large swaths are easily handled by spraying
but random shoots can have their leaves painted with the herbicide. It will
probably take several applications over a year or more to get it all.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com
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On Sep 17, 6:53 am, John McGaw wrote:
Artful Dodger wrote:
On Sep 16, 3:36 pm, John McGaw wrote:
Artful Dodger wrote:
I'm told it's hopeless, but maybe some genius here has a solution.
I had a pair of Hibiscus vines taken out several months ago,
supposedly the whole root.
Hah, and yet again, hah! It's coming up all over the place. I am
willing to do almost anything to get rid of the root system. The area
involved is not near anything else that would be harmed. Gardener
says not even Roundup will do the trick.
Is there ANY way to get rid of it?
TIA
http://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/25496has some ideas.


But if you absolutely refuse to use herbicides


NO, I DON'T refuse! Was just quoting the gardener. I would be
happy to use something that will get rid of it.


What would you suggest?


then manually cutting off
shoots as soon as they appear over a long enough period will eventually
control the vines -- no plant can store infinite resources.


Would rather do something effective NOW rather than keep cutting.
Some of the roots are under a porch, so I'd have to keep opening
the (tiny) gate and crawling under the porch.


So, if you or any other member can suggest something
"cruel" g and effective, please post!


TIA


After seven
years I have an occasional survivor pop through the soil but I just mow it
and don't obsess.


--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]http://johnmcgaw.com


Did you read the document I gave you the link to?


I apologize - I just now did read it thoroughly. It speaks of
Alabama, but I assume not that different from my area? So.Calif
coastal; mild; no extremes?

They give some good
information although some of the herbicides they mention are not easy for
the lay person to obtain. The one you can easily get is glyphosate in the
form of Roundup (and others) and which is available at every borg. I would
buy the smallest available container of the concentrate "brush killer"
strength Roundup, mix it to their highest recommended concentration and
then apply that carefully to the shoots.


OK, wilco. I'd been going by the gardener's recommendation, so maybe
he doesn't know what you and the Website you referenced do.

I did buy the smallest available concentrate of Roundup but I don't
think it's called "brush killer".

Or you could buy the regular strength and then make a more
concentrated mix than they recommend. The
mixed material has a relatively short life after mixing so do it in small quantities.


Aha, didn't know that; thanks.

Apply it only when the plant is in active growing mode, not
when it is cold and dark since it is taken up by the foliage only when the
plant is actively "working". Large swaths are easily handled by spraying
but random shoots can have their leaves painted with the herbicide. It will
probably take several applications over a year or more to get it all.


Sigh. Well, at least you've given concrete g advice, which I will
implement
pronto. Since I'm in So. Calif coastal, the damn thing will probably
be
in "active growing mode" for at least several more months, so I'd
better
get started.

Much obliged.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]http://johnmcgaw.com


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