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new garden question
In article , Charlie wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:46:32 -0700, Billy wrote: In article , "George.com" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , Charlie wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:27:51 -0700, Billy wrote: In article , Charlie wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:58:38 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "George.com" wrote in message news:h5bfs1 I'd not bother with the plastic and instead cover the area with cardboard or old felt carpet underlay. Whatever comes free and second hand. A carpet layer will often have second hand hessian underlay they are happy to part with for free. Coffee grounds, food scraps, leaves, grass clippings. Chuck it all on top of the hessian or cardboard and leave for a few months & you have a garden. I think this system works even better if you chuck all thos things under the free top layer. I like to let the worms get at it and do a lot of work for me. But then my soil is rotten and hard and wormless so I also dig up some worms from my veg garden, dig a tiny bit of soil so thye at least have some soil cover and then do what you describe. hmmmm.......doh. This makes good sense, in that the worms don't have to chew thru the cardboard/hessian/whatever before they begin to work. Same weed reduction results, but faster soil improvement results. Thanks for the idea, Wormwrangler. Charlie I would suggest that you first lay down your soil amendments (manure, rock phosphate, potassiun [wood ash, what ever]), then your cardboard, or newsprint, and then cover that unsightly mess with the mulch of your choice (I prefer alfalfa), then if you want to go full gonzo, spread some green manure seeds (I'd go with rye or buckwheat to condition the soil [make it looser], or some legumes to add more nitrogen to the soil). In any event, the worms will thank you for it. No disagreement witcha on this and what I have done also, but my take and thinking, after Fran's post, is lay down a good layer of worm bait and food, such as cooked rice and pasta, veggie trimmings May I see the wine list?;o) , rotten fruit and trimmings, etc., *under* the cardboard, with amendements, I think the operative word, Billy, in my suggestion was 'chuck'. I could substitute it with the word 'bung' to try and reflect the approach I am taking. No just 'do nothing gardening', but 'close enough is good enough gardening'. rob It's just Mr. Occam and his razor again. No sense making anything more difficult than it has to be. But tell me again, why is Chuck underneath the Hessian with a bung? All sounds rather "kinky" to this country boy. Must be what comes from spending your life up-side down ;O) Dammit, Billy, I done tolja ta quit callin' me Chuck!!! And it's a damned log I'm *tryin* to stay under, not some effing German mercenary and they ain't no bungin' involved, of any sort, you old effer!!! *Charlie*.....not Chuck What's up . . . err, hmmm? -- Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common denominator in our exploitative economic system. ~Channing E. Phillips http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm |
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