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Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe, well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and roses. Thanks for your help.
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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.


I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I suggest that
you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It may not be rotted as
that requires storing large quantities and horse places often aim to get rid
of it quickly. You may also be offered used stall bedding which is straw
with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What do you
think could be wrong with it?

David

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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.


I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I suggest that
you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It may not be rotted as
that requires storing large quantities and horse places often aim to get rid
of it quickly. You may also be offered used stall bedding which is straw
with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What do you
think could be wrong with it?

David


There was a problem with an herbicide in the horse manure a couple of
years ago.
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Billy wrote:
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.


I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I
suggest that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It
may not be rotted as that requires storing large quantities and
horse places often aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be
offered used stall bedding which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What
do you think could be wrong with it?

David


There was a problem with an herbicide in the horse manure a couple of
years ago.


Is this aminopyralid? Does it actually go through horses and remain active?

David

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Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.

I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I
suggest that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It
may not be rotted as that requires storing large quantities and
horse places often aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be
offered used stall bedding which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What
do you think could be wrong with it?

David


There was a problem with an herbicide in the horse manure a couple of
years ago.


Is this aminopyralid? Does it actually go through horses and remain active?

David


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...od.agriculture
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Billy wrote:
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.

I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I
suggest that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It
may not be rotted as that requires storing large quantities and
horse places often aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be
offered used stall bedding which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What
do you think could be wrong with it?

David


There was a problem with an herbicide in the horse manure a couple of
years ago.


Is this aminopyralid? Does it actually go through horses and remain
active?


Supposedly. But it could be a case like the American bee keepers who blamed
Australian imported bees for CCD.


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Billy wrote:
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.

I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I
suggest that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It
may not be rotted as that requires storing large quantities and
horse places often aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be
offered used stall bedding which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What
do you think could be wrong with it?

David

There was a problem with an herbicide in the horse manure a couple of
years ago.


Is this aminopyralid? Does it actually go through horses and remain
active?


Supposedly. But it could be a case like the American bee keepers who blamed
Australian imported bees for CCD.


I thought that Australian bees were brought in because of CCD. Could you
amplify as I know nothing about this.
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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.


I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I suggest
that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It may not be
rotted as that requires storing large quantities and horse places often
aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be offered used stall bedding
which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What do you
think could be wrong with it?


The UK has a problem with a aminopyralid residues in manures. Apparently if
you spread manure which has come from animals fed on pastures where this
product has been used, you can kill your plants.


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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.


I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I suggest
that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It may not be
rotted as that requires storing large quantities and horse places often
aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be offered used stall bedding
which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What do you
think could be wrong with it?



The UK has a problem with a aminopyralid residues in manures. Apparently if
you spread manure which has come from animals fed on pastures where this
product has been used, you can kill your plants.



If in/near a large city, perhaps the local zoo could supply
manure from animals that have been fed a safer diet?

My area has a company that supplies aged manure from the zoo, but
I don't live in the OP's country.


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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.

I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I
suggest that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It
may not be rotted as that requires storing large quantities and
horse places often aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be
offered used stall bedding which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What
do you think could be wrong with it?



The UK has a problem with a aminopyralid residues in manures.
Apparently if you spread manure which has come from animals fed on
pastures where this product has been used, you can kill your plants.



If in/near a large city, perhaps the local zoo could supply
manure from animals that have been fed a safer diet?

My area has a company that supplies aged manure from the zoo, but
I don't live in the OP's country.


Once upon a time when circuses travelled the land as they left there would
be a rush to collect the manure. Elephant was very popular. Big beasties
have big turds, they must grow big tomatoes.

David



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Coffee's For Closers wrote:
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ask@itshall says...

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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe,
well rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I
need a few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and
roses. Thanks for your help.

I cannot assist with specific advice as I am not in the UK. I
suggest that you contact stables and horse studs in your area. It
may not be rotted as that requires storing large quantities and
horse places often aim to get rid of it quickly. You may also be
offered used stall bedding which is straw with manure and urine.

I am curious about the way that horse manure might be unsafe. What
do you think could be wrong with it?



The UK has a problem with a aminopyralid residues in manures.
Apparently if you spread manure which has come from animals fed on
pastures where this product has been used, you can kill your plants.



If in/near a large city, perhaps the local zoo could supply
manure from animals that have been fed a safer diet?

My area has a company that supplies aged manure from the zoo, but
I don't live in the OP's country.


Once upon a time when circuses travelled the land as they left there would
be a rush to collect the manure. Elephant was very popular. Big beasties
have big turds, they must grow big tomatoes.

David


When you consider all the crap that you can find in manure, I'd say buy
ORGANIC bagged fertilized.
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Once upon a time when circuses travelled the land as they left there would
be a rush to collect the manure. Elephant was very popular. Big beasties
have big turds, they must grow big tomatoes.


Elephant still is very popular. I managed to get some about 2 years ago and
it grew the best corn.


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markiss wrote:
Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe, well
rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I need a
few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and roses.


Aminopyralid is an herbicide against broadleaf plants that is widely
used on grazing pastures and grass hay fields. To minimize the risk of
aminopyralid contamination in animal manure, you could seek out farms
that (a) grow their own grass hay and do not use aminopyralid on their
fields or (b) feed alfalfa aka lucerne grass. Alfalfa is a broadleaf
legume, not a monocot grass.

For addition to a compost pile in spring to start the pile cooking, you
should be using fresh ("green") manure and urine-soaked bedding. Well
rotted manure will have lost most of its nitrogen.

Once you have located a source of manure, getting it delivered should
be as simple as calling up a local handyman who does yard work.

Let us know how you make out.

Una

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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:25:41 -0400, markiss
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Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe, well
rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I need a
few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and roses.
Thanks for your help.


Find a mushroom farm. They will sell you spent (horse) manure. If
you can find it, cow manure is better and has far less weeds seeds.
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:25:41 -0400, markiss
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Can anyone please advise where I may find someone to deliver safe, well
rotted, horse manure to Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG postcode.I need a
few cubic metres, for compost bins and vegetable patch, and roses.
Thanks for your help.


Find a mushroom farm. They will sell you spent (horse) manure. If
you can find it, cow manure is better and has far less weeds seeds.


Conversion factors

Manure Chicken Diary cow Horse Steer Rabbit Sheep
N 1.1 .257 .70 .70 2.4 .70
P .80 .15 .30 .30 1.4 .30
K .50 .25 .60 .40 .60 .90
Http://www.plantea.com/manuer.htm
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