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Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.
I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.
But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren
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Darren wrote:

Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.
I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.
But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren


Just about anything planted in the last few weeks will be drooping with
the current high temperatures.

I'd soak real good every day for a week then every other day for a week
then once a week. Perhaps a little temporary shade for a hour or three
would be in order till the weather normalizes some. Hopefully soon.

Guess you know cone flowers come in many colors now.

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Darren wrote:

Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.
I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.
But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren


Just about anything planted in the last few weeks will be drooping with
the current high temperatures.

I'd soak real good every day for a week then every other day for a week
then once a week. Perhaps a little temporary shade for a hour or three
would be in order till the weather normalizes some. Hopefully soon.

Guess you know cone flowers come in many colors now.


My Echinacea purpurea are in pots, but they enjoy a good soaking every
other day, during the heat of the summer.
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On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT), Darren
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Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.
I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.
But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!


This is not a good time for planting in NY... here in the Catskills it
reached 100ºF today.... it's been blistering hot and saharan dry for
over a week

You may have lousy soil. Should have dug a big hole and added some
rich topsoil amended with organic matter. Keep moist (poke your
fingers into the soil) and well mulched to slow evaporation... and do
not compress the back fill... plants gotta breathe. I'd remove your
plant and replant it as described above.
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Darren wrote:
Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.
I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.
But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren




Even desert plants need water when they are first getting established.
We have a few coneflower (Echinacea) plants in the yard and they get
watered a few times a week, more often when it is very hot. Your plant
might also do well if you provide a little shade in this year's heat.
These self-seed (not excessively) so I'd make sure when the flowers die
that you bend the flower stem so the seeds will fall to the direction
where you want more plants.

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"Darren" wrote in message
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Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.
I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.
But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren


I myself have never bought potted coneflowers, so this is just transplanting
rules-of-thumb. I don't know how small the hole you dug was, but one should
leave *more* than enough room for what comes out the container. Roots can be
damaged if crammed in any way into their new home. But they also need good
soil contact, which is something they have a much better chance at with a
good watering-in. That advice you read about overwatering tends to apply
more to people who have soils with poor drainage (and to a more than a few
unknowledgable houseplant owners). The fact it perked up after adding more
water is a pretty good indication that it's just what it needed.
After you give it a nice soak, you might even try putting some mulch around
it to help keep the the soil from drying out too fast between
rains/waterings, maybe help keep the roots cooler in all that heat too.


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"Darren" wrote in message
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Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.


I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.


That is for established plants. For planting a plant, you should dig a hole
bigger than the pot the plant came out of, then fill the hole with water,
put the plant in and fill the hole arund the plant. It wouldn't hurt to
water again after you've got the plant planted. Mulching around the plant
will help hold the moisture it needs. Untill the plant is firmly
established, you shoud water it every day. HTH
Gloria


But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren




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Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!


keep it watered at least once
a day until it starts sending
up some new growth. then back
off the water to every other day
as long as this heat persists and
we get no rain. once it cools
off let it go longer in between
watering and keep an eye on
it through the fall. if you have
planted it in an area that gets
bare in the winter consider
mulching it after the ground
freezes (and remove the mulch
as soon as the worst of the
winter is over).

these are fairly hearty plants.
i never water mine once they
are going and they rarely croak.
i lost 3 this past year because the
management forgot they were
there and landscape material'd
over them. i could have rescued
them, but i know the better
part of discretion and valor is to
smile nod and agree.

long lasting flowers and the birds
love the seeds, plus you will have
plenty of volunteers in time. i keep
a cone from each type in a paper
bag after they are ripe (watch out
they are quite pricky if you squeeze
them the wrong way) so i have
seeds to grow replacements
if i need them or to start plants for
people who'd like them.

which reminds me, i need to
rotate my stock this year as i think
these cones are from two years ago.

good luck,


songbird
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Many thanks for all the replies and info.
I have been watering it regularly now, and it seems to be reviving.
Thanks again.



Darren
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"Darren" wrote in message
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Greetings all,
Over this past weekend, I bought a small "purple cone flower" plant at
my local nursery to add to my little butterfly garden.
I planted it as per the instructions of the guy at the nursery. I dug
out a small hole, then put the plant in, then filled in with a little
more soil. Then I watered it a little.
The next day, the plant had shriveled up a little, and just didn't
look well.


I had read that you weren't supposed to water them too much.


That is for established plants. For planting a plant, you should dig a hole
bigger than the pot the plant came out of, then fill the hole with water,
put the plant in and fill the hole arund the plant. It wouldn't hurt to
water again after you've got the plant planted. Mulching around the plant
will help hold the moisture it needs. Untill the plant is firmly
established, you shoud water it every day. HTH
Gloria


But, we have had blistering heat here in NY this week, so I though
maybe that was the problem. I felt the leaves and flowers and they
felt very dried out. So, I watered it twice today, and that seemed to
perk up the plant a little.
Any advice on this?
Thanks in advance, as always!

Darren


I agree with Gloria on the watering, but you didn't mention what type of
soil in which the echinacea is planted. Echinacea likes well drained
soils. I lost one, because it was planted in clay. As a result, when it
tried to push the following year, the soil was too wet and cold for it
to push. If you have clay soil, you should probably do as "brooklin"
suggested, and even mound up the earth around it.
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