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Rural Irrigation/Remote Faucets Methods ??
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"James Nipper" wrote: I have a vacation property in the mountains, of about six acres, two acres of which are cleared and developed. I have areas away from the house area in which I need water access for watering plants, flowers, etc. Ideally, I would love to have about three faucets in areas that are up to about 400 feet away from the house. I can purchase 500 to 600 feet of hoses, and with the use of "T's" add several branches (hoses) to allow me to water in several selected areas. But, if I use high quality hoses, this would be pretty expensive, and it all seems so "temporary." I am wondering if it would be more economical to run a main line of about 500 feet, using some sort of plastic pipe (cannot remember the name of the current most common), and then run my hose branches from that ? (The main line would have to lay on the ground, through the woods). Whatever I use, I need to be able to drain the line during winters, but I suppose I could get fittings for this equipped with a drain screw or valve or something. Any ideas of what I should look for, or use ? Any general ideas of how to accomplish what I am trying to do ? thanks !! James Use drip irrigation! -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug |
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Rural Irrigation/Remote Faucets Methods ??
thanks for all the helpful posts....... I think that the 1 inch polypipe is
the way to go !! James |
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James wrote:
thanks for all the helpful posts....... I think that the 1 inch polypipe is the way to go !! James James Could I make a couple of suggestions. Don't change nyms from one part of a thread to another, nobody will know that you are the OP. Answer some of the questions and provide more information. You haven't said where the water is coming from or how much you need at the destination. You haven't given us enough to make a guess if 1" polypipe will in fact be adequate. You don't want to go to the trouble of buying and laying the pipe to discover that it doesn't work. If the inlet pressure is not very high 1" may be too narrow to give the outlet flow you want, if it is going up hill you might get a tiny flow at the outlet or none at all. Also 1" has a tendency to kink and get flattened very easily. If using 1" DON'T use push fittings (bayonet fittings) they will pop off all the time if put under pressure, use the more expensive fittings that clamp the pipe with a nut. A knowledgeable irrigation equipment supplier will be able to advise you correctly, whether such is available near you is another issue. David |
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Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is, but
sorry.... My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. James |
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James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is, but sorry.... My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. My recommendation - stick with the 1". You won't get much pressure/volume through the 3/4". The cost difference is not that big. |
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"James" wrote:
My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. For what you describe it would be asinine to install a grid of piping all over six acres... your idea is way over kill, it's beyond over kill, it's as stupid as stupid gets... you're not growing crops. And with shrubs and trees once they're established it's not a good idea to water them unless there is a protracted dry spell or young plants won't develop a strong deep root system... when properly planted and mulched you really shouldn't need to water such plants after the first growing season, unless as I've said, there's a real dry spell... and native wildflowers need no watering, most do better if not watered. A newly planted sapling/shrub doesn't need much watering, five gallons once a week is all, and that's if it doesn't rain. And you don't want to water fast and heavy, you want to water slowly, so it can sink in and not run off. And from experience I can tell you that it never fails, right after you finish a whole lot of watering because everything is so dry the sky opens up and there's a deluge. All you need is a garden tractor, a cart, and a bunch of buckets, a riding lawn mower will do for occasional water hauling. And with six acres a tractor and cart is manditory to save your legs, it will probably get used every day hauling you and a mess of tools and materials to do some project, but you'll hardly ever water that smattering of plants, once growing probably never. I were you I'd be much more concerned about critters eating your plants... and if you water you'll attract more critters, critters would much rather dine on the juiciest plants. Most critters are nocturnal, while you're sleeping they'll be ferreting out those nice moist soft spots you left them, they will dig down and eat your plant's roots, you won't even know until one day you notice your plant is dying. Oh well, most everyone learns the hard way. |
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James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is, but sorry.... You started of as James Nipper now you are just James My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. James I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. 3/4" will flatten and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. It's the area of the pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of the diameter. Go see that irrigation specialist. D |
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On Jul 2, 3:30*am, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
James wrote: Thanks David, and the others. *First, I don't know what a *"nym" is, but sorry.... You started of as James Nipper now you are just James My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. *I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. * I do appreciate all the help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps *3/4 *inch. * BTW, I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. James I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. *3/4" will flatten and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. *It's the area of the pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of the diameter. *Go see that irrigation specialist. D Agree that 1" is the minimum for the length of run he's working on. No reason to use anything smaller, the 1" is cheap and readily available. |
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On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:30:45 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
wrote: James wrote: Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is, but sorry.... You started of as James Nipper now you are just James My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. James I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. 3/4" will flatten and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. It's the area of the pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of the diameter. Go see that irrigation specialist. All an irrigation specialist needs to know is his well capacity and exit pipe diameter.. I seriously doubt his little cabin's water system can accomodate more than 3/4" outlet piping. |
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On Jul 2, 10:57*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:30:45 +1000, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: James wrote: Thanks David, and the others. *First, I don't know what a *"nym" is, but sorry.... You started of as James Nipper now you are just James My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. *I get good pressure (60 psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill. As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That is all that this is about. * I do appreciate all the help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps *3/4 *inch. * BTW, I don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some light watering. James I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. *3/4" will flatten and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. *It's the area of the pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of the diameter. *Go see that irrigation specialist. All an irrigation specialist needs to know is his well capacity and exit pipe diameter.. I seriously doubt his little cabin's water system can accomodate more than 3/4" outlet piping.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are such a complete moron it isn't even funny. Have you seen many wells with a 3/4 inch connection? |
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