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I have a vacation property in the mountains, of about six acres, two acres
of which are cleared and developed. I have areas away from the house area
in which I need water access for watering plants, flowers, etc. Ideally, I
would love to have about three faucets in areas that are up to about 400
feet away from the house.

I can purchase 500 to 600 feet of hoses, and with the use of "T's" add
several branches (hoses) to allow me to water in several selected areas.
But, if I use high quality hoses, this would be pretty expensive, and it all
seems so "temporary."

I am wondering if it would be more economical to run a main line of about
500 feet, using some sort of plastic pipe (cannot remember the name of the
current most common), and then run my hose branches from that ? (The main
line would have to lay on the ground, through the woods). Whatever I use,
I need to be able to drain the line during winters, but I suppose I could
get fittings for this equipped with a drain screw or valve or something.

Any ideas of what I should look for, or use ? Any general ideas of how to
accomplish what I am trying to do ?

thanks !!

James


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thanks for all the helpful posts....... I think that the 1 inch polypipe is
the way to go !!

James


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James wrote:
thanks for all the helpful posts....... I think that the 1 inch
polypipe is the way to go !!

James


James

Could I make a couple of suggestions.

Don't change nyms from one part of a thread to another, nobody will know
that you are the OP.

Answer some of the questions and provide more information. You haven't
said where the water is coming from or how much you need at the destination.
You haven't given us enough to make a guess if 1" polypipe will in fact be
adequate. You don't want to go to the trouble of buying and laying the pipe
to discover that it doesn't work.

If the inlet pressure is not very high 1" may be too narrow to give the
outlet flow you want, if it is going up hill you might get a tiny flow at
the outlet or none at all. Also 1" has a tendency to kink and get flattened
very easily. If using 1" DON'T use push fittings (bayonet fittings) they
will pop off all the time if put under pressure, use the more expensive
fittings that clamp the pipe with a nut.

A knowledgeable irrigation equipment supplier will be able to advise you
correctly, whether such is available near you is another issue.

David

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Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is, but
sorry....

My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a
well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi),
and the poly pipe will not go uphill.

As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering a few
plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That
is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the help, and I think that
the polypipe is my best bet, although David's last comments may make me
consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I don't need much pressure at
the end, just enough to do some light watering.

James


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James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is,
but sorry....

My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is
a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi),
and the poly pipe will not go uphill.

As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering
a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses
around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the
help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's
last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I don't
need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some
light watering.


My recommendation - stick with the 1". You won't get much pressure/volume
through the 3/4". The cost difference is not that big.





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"James" wrote:

My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is a
well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60 psi),
and the poly pipe will not go uphill.

I am talking about watering a few plants and bushes,
I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses around. That
is all that this is about. I don't need much pressure at
the end, just enough to do some light watering.


For what you describe it would be asinine to install a grid of piping
all over six acres... your idea is way over kill, it's beyond over
kill, it's as stupid as stupid gets... you're not growing crops. And
with shrubs and trees once they're established it's not a good idea to
water them unless there is a protracted dry spell or young plants
won't develop a strong deep root system... when properly planted and
mulched you really shouldn't need to water such plants after the first
growing season, unless as I've said, there's a real dry spell... and
native wildflowers need no watering, most do better if not watered. A
newly planted sapling/shrub doesn't need much watering, five gallons
once a week is all, and that's if it doesn't rain. And you don't want
to water fast and heavy, you want to water slowly, so it can sink in
and not run off. And from experience I can tell you that it never
fails, right after you finish a whole lot of watering because
everything is so dry the sky opens up and there's a deluge. All you
need is a garden tractor, a cart, and a bunch of buckets, a riding
lawn mower will do for occasional water hauling. And with six acres a
tractor and cart is manditory to save your legs, it will probably get
used every day hauling you and a mess of tools and materials to do
some project, but you'll hardly ever water that smattering of plants,
once growing probably never. I were you I'd be much more concerned
about critters eating your plants... and if you water you'll attract
more critters, critters would much rather dine on the juiciest plants.
Most critters are nocturnal, while you're sleeping they'll be
ferreting out those nice moist soft spots you left them, they will dig
down and eat your plant's roots, you won't even know until one day you
notice your plant is dying. Oh well, most everyone learns the hard
way.
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James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is,
but sorry....


You started of as James Nipper now you are just James


My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is
a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60
psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill.

As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering
a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses
around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the
help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's
last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I
don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some
light watering.
James


I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. 3/4" will flatten
and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. It's the area of the
pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of
the diameter. Go see that irrigation specialist.

D

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On Jul 2, 3:30*am, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. *First, I don't know what a *"nym" is,
but sorry....


You started of as James Nipper now you are just James



My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is
a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. *I get good pressure (60
psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill.


As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering
a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses
around. That is all that this is about. * I do appreciate all the
help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's
last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps *3/4 *inch. * BTW, I
don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some
light watering.
James


I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. *3/4" will flatten
and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. *It's the area of the
pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of
the diameter. *Go see that irrigation specialist.

D


Agree that 1" is the minimum for the length of run he's
working on. No reason to use anything smaller, the 1"
is cheap and readily available.
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On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:30:45 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
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James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. First, I don't know what a "nym" is,
but sorry....


You started of as James Nipper now you are just James


My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is
a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. I get good pressure (60
psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill.

As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering
a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses
around. That is all that this is about. I do appreciate all the
help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's
last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps 3/4 inch. BTW, I
don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some
light watering.
James


I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. 3/4" will flatten
and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. It's the area of the
pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of
the diameter. Go see that irrigation specialist.


All an irrigation specialist needs to know is his well capacity and
exit pipe diameter.. I seriously doubt his little cabin's water system
can accomodate more than 3/4" outlet piping.
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On Jul 2, 10:57*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:30:45 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"





wrote:
James wrote:
Thanks David, and the others. *First, I don't know what a *"nym" is,
but sorry....


You started of as James Nipper now you are just James


My faucets at the cabin are based on the cabin water system, which is
a well, with a pressure tank in the basement. *I get good pressure (60
psi), and the poly pipe will not go uphill.


As for drilling a new well, come on guys, I am talking about watering
a few plants and bushes, I just dont' want to constantly drag hoses
around. That is all that this is about. * I do appreciate all the
help, and I think that the polypipe is my best bet, although David's
last comments may make me consider smaller, perhaps *3/4 *inch. * BTW, I
don't need much pressure at the end, just enough to do some
light watering.
James


I was suggesting that 1" could be too small not too big. *3/4" will flatten
and kink more than 1" and has about half the capacity. *It's the area of the
pipe cross section that is important so the capacity varies as the square of
the diameter. *Go see that irrigation specialist.


All an irrigation specialist needs to know is his well capacity and
exit pipe diameter.. I seriously doubt his little cabin's water system
can accomodate more than 3/4" outlet piping.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You are such a complete moron it isn't even funny. Have you seen
many wells with a 3/4 inch connection?


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