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Transplanting carrots
I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. They
seemed to do very well. But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? I don't do it that often. Never noticed this before. IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? That's all I can think of. Your input valued. HB |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:22:46 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson
wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. They seemed to do very well. But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? I don't do it that often. Never noticed this before. IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? That's all I can think of. Your input valued. Carrots don't transplant well so are not transplanted, they're thinned, the pulled ones thrown away. |
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On Dec 26, 6:34*pm, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:22:46 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. *They seemed to do very well. *But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? *I don't do it that often. *Never noticed this before. *IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? *That's all I can think of. Your input valued. Carrots don't transplant well so are not transplanted, they're thinned, the pulled ones thrown away. Never knew that; hadn't had occasion to transplant a quantity before. In this case, I couldn't follow above advice; I had to clear the area for something else, and hated to waste perfectly good little carrots. Still looking for explanation of "hair". HB |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:22:46 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson
wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. They seemed to do very well. But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? I don't do it that often. Never noticed this before. IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? That's all I can think of. Your input valued. HB Hairy carrrots are usually a sign of too much fertilizer..don't know that transplanting would have anything to do with it. |
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Bobo wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:22:46 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. They seemed to do very well. But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? I don't do it that often. Never noticed this before. IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? That's all I can think of. Your input valued. HB Hairy carrrots are usually a sign of too much fertilizer..don't know that transplanting would have anything to do with it. Phosphorus? -- - Billy E pluribus unum http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/18/112346/obama-ran-against-bush-but-now.html $1.5 billion in US foreign aid at work. http://storyful.com/stories/1000016318 none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutbacks "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/mar/28/dennis-kucinich/rep-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron. - Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTW0y6kazWM&feature=related |
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On Dec 26, 6:44*pm, Bobo wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:22:46 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. *They seemed to do very well. *But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? *I don't do it that often. *Never noticed this before. *IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? *That's all I can think of. Your input valued. HB Hairy carrrots are usually a sign of too much fertilizer..don't know that transplanting would have anything to do with it. Yabbut I didn't overfertilize! Didn't do anything to new area but mix in a small amount of worm castings. HB |
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Higgs Boson wrote:
I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. They seemed to do very well. But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? I don't do it that often. Never noticed this before. IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? That's all I can think of. Your input valued. a root hair is increased root surface area for absorbing nutrients/moisture. as the plants were originally grown they would have had their soil environment all situated right from the start. in other words they'd have their root surface area in close contact with the surrounding soil moisture and organisms. when transplanting you remove their support network so they would have to replace it. how do they taste? those hairs would come off with scrubbing or peeling. so no big deal there, but i'm wondering if they'd be less tender or sweet. was the soil quality different between the starting spot and the finishing spot? was the finishing spot sandier and dryer? songbird |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:45:17 -0500, songbird
wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. They seemed to do very well. But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? I don't do it that often. Never noticed this before. IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? That's all I can think of. Your input valued. a root hair is increased root surface area for absorbing nutrients/moisture. as the plants were originally grown they would have had their soil environment all situated right from the start. in other words they'd have their root surface area in close contact with the surrounding soil moisture and organisms. when transplanting you remove their support network so they would have to replace it. Precisely... that's why carrots are not transplanted... and its support network is never adequately replaced... unlike a tomato plant a carrot root is the part you eat, it is is not the fruit. A transplanted carrot can still flower but it will never develop an edible root... you can prove this by cutting off a carrot top and placing it in a pot of soil and keep it well watered. how do they taste? those hairs would come off with scrubbing or peeling. so no big deal there, but i'm wondering if they'd be less tender or sweet. They'd be limp and have a much shorter shelf life... like old men. LOL But seriously, root vegetables are not transplanted, they're thinned; carrots, radishes, beets, turnips etc. Didn't yoose notice how these veggies are not sold in flats with the other veggies? These are termed "direct sown", not all direct sown are root crops, corn doesn't transplant either, neither leaf lettuce, and several others. Every seed pack that says to thin does NOT say to replant the thinnings. For those who are "seed cheap" and cannot bring themselves to toss out the thinnings simply sow more accurately and further apart, however carrot seeds are extremely tiny so not easy to do. Commercial farmers use very precise/pricy seeders so thinning is minimized, more to save labor than seed. Haven't any of you noticed that when carrots are too long in the fridge they have put out a mass of hairy rootlets and have begun to mold and rot... harvested carrots placed in a dark dank place behave as though transplanted, they attempt to continue growing but obviously they fail. I buy a lot of carrots, in fifty pound bags when I can find them at a good price, because I feed them to deer. After about a month in the fridge the last dregs are all hairy and beginning to rot, but the deer eat them anyway, I just feed those more heavily to get rid of them. Usually the large bags of carrots are from Canada, they are also at least twice as large as the typical market carrot... those are grown especially for commercial operations, saves labor preping for soups/stews. They are actually a sweeter, tastier, more tender carrot... if you find those try them... often I find them in 5# bags too. And before you ask I have a second fridge in my basement... any serious vegetable gardner needs a second refrigerator freezer, much handier than a stand alone freezer. And a basement fridge needn't be pretty/pricy. I bought mine from a local family owned 2nd generation appliance dealer who refurbishes certain of the old ones he picks up when someone buys new. He explained to me that some appliances are made better than others so it pays to repair those models but many people would rather buy new than pay a couple hundred for the repair. He said it costs much less to make the repair in his shop, but folks can't survive without a fridge and have only one. For an 18 cu ft no frills I paid $100 delivered, more than ten years ago, still going strong. |
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On Dec 27, 7:01*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:45:17 -0500, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. *They seemed to do very well. *But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? *I don't do it that often. *Never noticed this before. *IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? *That's all I can think of. Your input valued. *a root hair is increased root surface area for absorbing nutrients/moisture. *as the plants were originally grown they would have had their soil environment all situated right from the start. *in other words they'd have their root surface area in close contact with the surrounding soil moisture and organisms. *when transplanting you remove their support network so they would have to replace it. Precisely... that's why carrots are not transplanted... and its support network is never adequately replaced... unlike a tomato plant a carrot root is the part you eat, it is is not the fruit. *A transplanted carrot can still flower but it will never develop an edible root... you can prove this by cutting off a carrot top and placing it in a pot of soil and keep it well watered. *how do they taste? *those hairs would come off with scrubbing or peeling. *so no big deal there, but i'm wondering if they'd be less tender or sweet. They'd be limp and have a much shorter shelf life... like old men. LOL But seriously, root vegetables are not transplanted, they're thinned; carrots, radishes, beets, turnips etc. *Didn't yoose notice how these veggies are not sold in flats with the other veggies? *These are termed "direct sown", not all direct sown are root crops, corn doesn't transplant either, neither leaf lettuce, and several others. *Every seed pack that says to thin does NOT say to replant the thinnings. For those who are "seed cheap" and cannot bring themselves to toss out the thinnings simply sow more accurately and further apart, however carrot seeds are extremely tiny so not easy to do. *Commercial farmers use very precise/pricy seeders so thinning is minimized, more to save labor than seed. *Haven't any of you noticed that when carrots are too long in the fridge they have put out a mass of hairy rootlets and have begun to mold and rot... harvested carrots placed in a dark dank place behave as though transplanted, they attempt to continue growing but obviously they fail. *I buy a lot of carrots, in fifty pound bags when I can find them at a good price, because I feed them to deer. *After about a month in the fridge the last dregs are all hairy and beginning to rot, but the deer eat them anyway, I just feed those more heavily to get rid of them. *Usually the large bags of carrots are from Canada, they are also at least twice as large as the typical market carrot... those are grown especially for commercial operations, saves labor preping for soups/stews. *They are actually a sweeter, tastier, more tender carrot... if you find those try them... often I find them in 5# bags too. *And before you ask I have a second fridge in my basement... any serious vegetable gardner needs a second refrigerator freezer, much handier than a stand alone freezer. *And a basement fridge needn't be pretty/pricy. *I bought mine from a local family owned 2nd generation appliance dealer who refurbishes certain of the old ones he picks up when someone buys new. *He explained to me that some appliances are made better than others so it pays to repair those models but many people would rather buy new than pay a couple hundred for the repair. *He said it costs much less to make the repair in his shop, but folks can't survive without a fridge and have only one. *For an 18 cu ft no frills I paid $100 delivered, more than ten years ago, still going strong. ***I learned my lesson. No more transplanting root veggies. Note, however, that I wasn't being manically parsimonious in replanting rather than thinning. As explained above, I had to clear out the area, and thought I could move the little buggers. Tx for all the good advice. HB |
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Higgs Boson wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote: songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. *They seemed to do very well. *But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? *I don't do it that often. *Never noticed this before. *IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? *That's all I can think of. Your input valued. *a root hair is increased root surface area for absorbing nutrients/moisture. *as the plants were originally grown they would have had their soil environment all situated right from the start. *in other words they'd have their root surface area in close contact with the surrounding soil moisture and organisms. *when transplanting you remove their support network so they would have to replace it. Precisely... that's why carrots are not transplanted... and its support network is never adequately replaced... unlike a tomato plant a carrot root is the part you eat, it is is not the fruit. *A transplanted carrot can still flower but it will never develop an edible root... you can prove this by cutting off a carrot top and placing it in a pot of soil and keep it well watered. *how do they taste? *those hairs would come off with scrubbing or peeling. *so no big deal there, but i'm wondering if they'd be less tender or sweet. They'd be limp and have a much shorter shelf life... like old men. LOL But seriously, root vegetables are not transplanted, they're thinned; carrots, radishes, beets, turnips etc. *Didn't yoose notice how these veggies are not sold in flats with the other veggies? *These are termed "direct sown", not all direct sown are root crops, corn doesn't transplant either, neither leaf lettuce, and several others. *Every seed pack that says to thin does NOT say to replant the thinnings. For those who are "seed cheap" and cannot bring themselves to toss out the thinnings simply sow more accurately and further apart, however carrot seeds are extremely tiny so not easy to do. *Commercial farmers use very precise/pricy seeders so thinning is minimized, more to save labor than seed. *Haven't any of you noticed that when carrots are too long in the fridge they have put out a mass of hairy rootlets and have begun to mold and rot... harvested carrots placed in a dark dank place behave as though transplanted, they attempt to continue growing but obviously they fail. *I buy a lot of carrots, in fifty pound bags when I can find them at a good price, because I feed them to deer. *After about a month in the fridge the last dregs are all hairy and beginning to rot, but the deer eat them anyway, I just feed those more heavily to get rid of them. *Usually the large bags of carrots are from Canada, they are also at least twice as large as the typical market carrot... those are grown especially for commercial operations, saves labor preping for soups/stews. *They are actually a sweeter, tastier, more tender carrot... if you find those try them... often I find them in 5# bags too. *And before you ask I have a second fridge in my basement... any serious vegetable gardner needs a second refrigerator freezer, much handier than a stand alone freezer. *And a basement fridge needn't be pretty/pricy. *I bought mine from a local family owned 2nd generation appliance dealer who refurbishes certain of the old ones he picks up when someone buys new. *He explained to me that some appliances are made better than others so it pays to repair those models but many people would rather buy new than pay a couple hundred for the repair. *He said it costs much less to make the repair in his shop, but folks can't survive without a fridge and have only one. *For an 18 cu ft no frills I paid $100 delivered, more than ten years ago, still going strong. ***I learned my lesson. No more transplanting root veggies. Note, however, that I wasn't being manically parsimonious in replanting rather than thinning. As explained above, I had to clear out the area, and thought I could move the little buggers. Tx for all the good advice. You're welcome. I used to grow carrots when my daughter was small, kids love to pluck and eat. But for a long time now I haven't grown carrots, I don't grow things that I can buy all year at the stupidmarket far cheaper, better quality, and with less effort than I can grow. A couple of years ago I tried to grow celery, what a disaster. It took a long time to grow and it looked fine, but it was so bitter and woody it was inedible. I'll never again complain about the price of celery at the market. |
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On Dec 27, 5:07*pm, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. *They seemed to do very well. *But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? *I don't do it that often. *Never noticed this before. *IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? *That's all I can think of. Your input valued. *a root hair is increased root surface area for absorbing nutrients/moisture. *as the plants were originally grown they would have had their soil environment all situated right from the start. *in other words they'd have their root surface area in close contact with the surrounding soil moisture and organisms. *when transplanting you remove their support network so they would have to replace it. Precisely... that's why carrots are not transplanted... and its support network is never adequately replaced... unlike a tomato plant a carrot root is the part you eat, it is is not the fruit. *A transplanted carrot can still flower but it will never develop an edible root... you can prove this by cutting off a carrot top and placing it in a pot of soil and keep it well watered. *how do they taste? *those hairs would come off with scrubbing or peeling. *so no big deal there, but i'm wondering if they'd be less tender or sweet. They'd be limp and have a much shorter shelf life... like old men. LOL But seriously, root vegetables are not transplanted, they're thinned; carrots, radishes, beets, turnips etc. *Didn't yoose notice how these veggies are not sold in flats with the other veggies? *These are termed "direct sown", not all direct sown are root crops, corn doesn't transplant either, neither leaf lettuce, and several others. *Every seed pack that says to thin does NOT say to replant the thinnings. For those who are "seed cheap" and cannot bring themselves to toss out the thinnings simply sow more accurately and further apart, however carrot seeds are extremely tiny so not easy to do. *Commercial farmers use very precise/pricy seeders so thinning is minimized, more to save labor than seed. *Haven't any of you noticed that when carrots are too long in the fridge they have put out a mass of hairy rootlets and have begun to mold and rot... harvested carrots placed in a dark dank place behave as though transplanted, they attempt to continue growing but obviously they fail. *I buy a lot of carrots, in fifty pound bags when I can find them at a good price, because I feed them to deer. *After about a month in the fridge the last dregs are all hairy and beginning to rot, but the deer eat them anyway, I just feed those more heavily to get rid of them. *Usually the large bags of carrots are from Canada, they are also at least twice as large as the typical market carrot... those are grown especially for commercial operations, saves labor preping for soups/stews. *They are actually a sweeter, tastier, more tender carrot... if you find those try them... often I find them in 5# bags too. *And before you ask I have a second fridge in my basement... any serious vegetable gardner needs a second refrigerator freezer, much handier than a stand alone freezer. *And a basement fridge needn't be pretty/pricy. *I bought mine from a local family owned 2nd generation appliance dealer who refurbishes certain of the old ones he picks up when someone buys new. *He explained to me that some appliances are made better than others so it pays to repair those models but many people would rather buy new than pay a couple hundred for the repair. *He said it costs much less to make the repair in his shop, but folks can't survive without a fridge and have only one. *For an 18 cu ft no frills I paid $100 delivered, more than ten years ago, still going strong. ***I learned my lesson. *No more transplanting root veggies. *Note, however, that I wasn't being manically parsimonious in replanting rather than thinning. *As explained above, I had to clear out the area, and thought I could move the little buggers. Tx for all the good advice. You're welcome. I used to grow carrots when my daughter was small, kids love to pluck and eat. *But for a long time now I haven't grown carrots, I don't grow things that I can buy all year at the stupidmarket far cheaper, better quality, and with less effort than I can grow. *A couple of years ago I tried to grow celery, what a disaster. *It took a long time to grow and it looked fine, but it was so bitter and woody it was inedible. *I'll never again complain about the price of celery at the market. ***I've had a few disasters too. Gave up on broccoli after some dismal results. Same with Brussels sprouts. And another veg whose name I cannot recall. Has a gluey, sticky nature. Do they have farmers markets where you live? Your carrots would be a lot fresher and possibly organic purchased there. HB |
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On Dec 27, 12:45*am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote: I just harvested some carrots which I had earlier transplanted. *They seemed to do very well. *But what's weird is that these carrots had "hair" all down the length of them. Is that normal for a transplant? *I don't do it that often. *Never noticed this before. *IAre these carrot putting out tiny rootlets as they adjust to new home? *That's all I can think of. Your input valued. * a root hair is increased root surface area for absorbing nutrients/moisture. * as the plants were originally grown they would have had their soil environment all situated right from the start. *in other words they'd have their root surface area in close contact with the surrounding soil moisture and organisms. * when transplanting you remove their support network so they would have to replace it. ***Yeah, I figured as much. But why not at the bottom, instead of all along the length. No biggie; inquiring minds... * how do they taste? *those hairs would come off with scrubbing or peeling. *so no big deal there, but i'm wondering if they'd be less tender or sweet. ***Carrots tasted fine. Hairs came off easily. * was the soil quality different between the starting spot and the finishing spot? was the finishing spot sandier and dryer? ***Soil basically the same. HB |
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