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Egg shells as plant food
Brooklyn1 wrote:
"David E. Ross" wrote: songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Agricultural lime is hard to find in my area. That's utter nonsense... agri lime is sold at every plant nursery in the US, everywhere that sells lawn maintence and farming products sells agri lime... not to mention all over the internet. Where's this secretive area you live... in your lonely drug crazed fantasy world... you're being ridiculous and dishonest. Amazing... truly amazing. D |
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Egg shells as plant food
Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps to keep pH levels stable. Eggshells have the most benefit with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy. Provided your soil needs magnesium as well. D |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:01:15 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
wrote: On Jan 28, 10:28*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often. TIA HB Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. *Where I live, this is definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already are quite alkaline. For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral. Drywall scraps are a cheap, if not free, source. Drywall does not readily dissolve into the soil and it also contains several elements that may not be desirable, especially for food crops. I wouldn't consider any building materials safe for amending soil. The last people who lived here dumped a good sized pile of drywall in the woods and it's still there in the same condition it was when I noticed it more than ten years ago. I strongly suggest disposing of all building materials properly and buy agri lime, it's cheap... I've never seen wallboard marked Safe for Food Crops. Actually I think people who cheap-out by using inapropriate materials for gardening are definitely mentally ill... this Haskill creep is very sick. Ross and Boson aren't too well wrapped either... I'd be very wary of these kind. It's been my experience that tightwadedness is highly indicative of severe psychosis... these are the kind of males who beat their wives for buying new panties without their permission. |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Jan 30, 7:40*pm, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:01:15 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 28, 10:28*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often. TIA HB Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. *Where I live, this is definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already are quite alkaline. For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral.. Drywall scraps are a cheap, if not free, source. Drywall does not readily dissolve into the soil and it also contains several elements that may not be desirable, especially for food crops. Fresh, regular white and gray sheetrock is gypsum, silicon, cellulose, stuff that's already present in soil. Scrap from demolition contains a witch's brew of who the hell knows what, which should be avoided, of course. I wouldn't consider any building materials safe for amending soil. The last people who lived here dumped a good sized pile of drywall in the woods and it's still there in the same condition it was when I noticed it more than ten years ago. Needs to be busted up. One good soaking rain will handle the rest. I strongly suggest disposing of all building materials properly and buy agri lime, it's cheap... I've never seen wallboard marked Safe for Food Crops. Guess what clay buster is made from. Actually I think people who cheap-out by using inapropriate materials for gardening are definitely mentally ill... this Haskill creep is very sick. I prefer "cheap." |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy. Provided your soil needs magnesium as well. If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency, suspect Mg shortage. Hard to overdose with dolomite. A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes or peppers. These appreciate an extra dose of magnesium. |
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On 1/30/12 6:14 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:47 pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps to keep pH levels stable. Eggshells have the most benefit with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy. Provided your soil needs magnesium as well. If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency, suspect Mg shortage. Hard to overdose with dolomite. A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes or peppers. These appreciate an extra dose of magnesium. Yellowing can by a symptom of zinc deficiency, especially with citrus and gardenias. Yellowing can also be a symptom of soil that is too alkaline or of over-watering. Finally, yellowing can be a sign that a nearby underground natural gas line is leaking. Magnesium promots the growth of new shoots. That is why I give each of my roses about 2 tablespoonsful of Epsom salts in the late winter. -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Jan 30, 6:14*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy. Provided your soil needs magnesium as well. If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency, suspect Mg shortage. *Hard to overdose with dolomite. A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of magnesium. And airplane and cars have wheels, but can a car fly? Very specifically it depends doesn't it? Your using a false analogy |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Jan 30, 6:14*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy. Provided your soil needs magnesium as well. If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency, suspect Mg shortage. *Hard to overdose with dolomite. A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of magnesium. http://www.aces.edu/timelyinfo/Ag%20...er/s-05-05.pdf "Coarsely crushed eggshells are relatively ineffective as a soil liming material or as a source of calcium. Although the sample used in this study had a total neutralizing value of 59% of pure calcium carbonate, it had to be very finely ground in order to be effective at increasing soil pH. Broken egg- shells can be safely land applied. Nitrogen from protein residues in eggshells and possibly other nutrients will eventually add to the fertility of the soil. Except for nitrogen, this will probably be a*very slow process. Therefore, unless shells are mechanically ground at least as finely as ground agricultural limestone, they should not be used as a substitute for conventional soil liming materials. However, we do not suspect any negative effect from their application to the soil." Also: http://www.aces.edu/timelyinfo/Ag%20...er/s-05-05.pdf |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Jan 30, 6:40 pm, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
these are the kind of males who beat their wives for buying new panties without their permission. Andy asks, They let their wives wear panties.???.... There's yer problem, right there.... !!! :)))) Andy in Eureka, Texas |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Feb 2, 12:10*am, Gunner wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:14*pm, Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Father Haskell wrote: On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote: Higgs Boson wrote: Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water- immersed egg shells. Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often. for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth the added expense. a bag of agricultural lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the rate i use it that should keep me a good 20 years or so. songbird Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy. Provided your soil needs magnesium as well. If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency, suspect Mg shortage. *Hard to overdose with dolomite. A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of magnesium. And airplane and cars have wheels, but can a car fly? Put a big enough engine on it, no problem. Very specifically it depends doesn't it? *Your using a false analogy |
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Egg shells as plant food
On Feb 4, 10:33*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:10*am, Gunner wrote: Father Haskell wrote: *Hard to overdose with dolomite. Very incorrect statement. A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of magnesium. No,Not in my soil or many of the myriad clay compositions. You obviously do not understand soil science and as I said you are using false analogies. Again I said airplane and cars have wheels, but can a car fly? You coyly reply "Put a big enough engine on it, no problem." But old son, you would be hard pressed to find the horsepower necessary to make your overreaching BS fly: Hard to overdose with dolomite. Patently false and I think you know that, or at least you should know as much, when dispensing "gardening advice." A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting tomatoes.... Again, so patently false. *While it may not affect some and even benefit some others, it is no panacea. *And yes you can overdo dolomite. In fact,this mythology*can be quite *detrimental to many. *So to say "... A spoonful of Epsom ...is recommend when planting ...." Is 100% USDA Prime *BS. Even a quick search yields this refutation: http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/cabarrus/sta...efaq.html#L16: You normally use dolomitic lime on sandy soils. Sandy soils don't have any way to hold magnesium or calcium. Both are needed for plant growth and should be added regularly. The only way to tell which lime you need to use on clay soils is with a soil test. Clay soils with high magnesium levels perform poorly. They will develop more cracks and have a tighter structure. These soils don't need additional magnesium. Look for the magnesium base saturation (Mg BS) percentage on a soil test. The ideal Mg BS is 10%. Clay soils with Mg BS over 20% should get calcitic lime. ... Also see: http://www.kinseyag.com/Article2.htm http://www.smilinggardener.com/organ.../dolomite-lime http://back-to-basics.net/efu/pdfs/pH.pdf http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/FreePubs/pdfs/uc038.pdf |
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