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My sister recently bought a house in the Silicon Valley that
just happens to have a set of thorny lemon trees near the sidewalk:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640784.jpg

This weekend, I knocked off all the thorns that I could:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640887.jpg

But, I wonder if we should just transplant the lemon trees to her back
yard and replace with something more amenable to sidewalk traffic.
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640787.jpg

Two questions:
1. Do you think these lemon trees will survive transplantation?
2. What inexpensive decorative alternative would you replace it with?

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Danny D. wrote:

My sister recently bought a house in the Silicon Valley that
just happens to have a set of thorny lemon trees near the sidewalk:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640784.jpg

This weekend, I knocked off all the thorns that I could:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640887.jpg

But, I wonder if we should just transplant the lemon trees to her
back yard and replace with something more amenable to sidewalk
traffic.
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640787.jpg

Two questions:
1. Do you think these lemon trees will survive transplantation?
2. What inexpensive decorative alternative would you replace it with?


Replace them with holly bushes. She'll be sorry she ever complained
about the lemon trees.
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:01:00 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

My sister recently bought a house in the Silicon Valley that
just happens to have a set of thorny lemon trees near the sidewalk:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640784.jpg

This weekend, I knocked off all the thorns that I could:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640887.jpg

But, I wonder if we should just transplant the lemon trees to her back
yard and replace with something more amenable to sidewalk traffic.
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640787.jpg

Two questions:
1. Do you think these lemon trees will survive transplantation?


Yes.

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/transplant-meyer-lemon-trees-57374.html

2. What inexpensive decorative alternative would you replace it with?


Let me think on that one.
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On Apr 8, 9:01*am, "Danny D." wrote:
My sister recently bought a house in the Silicon Valley that
just happens to have a set of thorny lemon trees near the sidewalk:
*http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640784.jpg

This weekend, I knocked off all the thorns that I could:
*http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640887.jpg

But, I wonder if we should just transplant the lemon trees to her back
yard and replace with something more amenable to sidewalk traffic.
*http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12640787.jpg

Two questions:
1. Do you think these lemon trees will survive transplantation?
2. What inexpensive decorative alternative would you replace it with?


It's supposed to be easier to ask forgiveness rather than permission,
EXCEPT with bureaucracies! Those trees could belong to the city she
lives in [although SHE is responsible for them, the city 'owns' them]
I know, made no sense when I lived there.
Therefore she may need a permit from the city arborist to do ANYTHING
with those trees.

When I lived in the Bar Area, i had two old acacia trees, deemed to be
the two most dangerous trees in the city [hollowed and weakened by rot
and roots cut constantly for various construction] These were BIG
trees within 18 feet of the house. Since the trees were in the
parking, I asked the city to replace them. That's when I found out the
city owned them but the legislation had made ME responsible for them.
I couldn't do a thing to them WITHOUT a written permit [the city owned
them] yet I was supposed to be responsible for them. Right after
learning all this and right after the city did a horrible trim job
lopping off one side, a bad storm took one of the trees down. It fell
diagonally just missing, well almost missing our house but flattened
the front of the historical landmark building next door. Took two days
for a full size city crew working constanntly to completely cut up and
remove the LARGE tree's carcass! And this was with it lyiing on the
ground. Since I am responsible for the tree, if it had more severely
damaged our house, I would have had to pay a lot. But because it also
fell adjacent, somehow the culpability went back to the city, not me,
and they had to pay the neighbor to reconstruct his historical
landmark house. Go figure. So there is govt at work again. THEY own
the tree. Home owner is responsible for the tree, but can't trim it,
can't select what type, can't cut it down. Nothing, without a permit
and of course pay for the permit. Yet, and this is luckily, if the
tree damages someone else's property, the city has to pay. Some
lawyer somewhere must be getting rich off this convolution of logic.

The remaing tree? I was told the city would give me a free permit for
me to hire someone to cut down the tree [estimation excess of $3,000.
No thanks. Then along came light rail and THEY cut it down, part of
their budget. Problem solved.

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
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Took two days for a full size city crew working constanntly to completely cut up and
remove the LARGE tree's carcass!


Are you sure they worked "constantly"? That just don't sound natural
for city workers.

I have seen many standing around, leaning on a shovel - constantly.


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Oren wrote:
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
wrote:

Took two days for a full size city crew working constanntly to
completely cut up and remove the LARGE tree's carcass!


Are you sure they worked "constantly"? That just don't sound natural
for city workers.

I have seen many standing around, leaning on a shovel - constantly.


Oh, yes.

A few years ago the county wanted to clean out vegetation from a canal that
cuts across about 200' of our property. It took...

a roughly 25' diesel powered barge with moveable, chopping props
a crane to get the boat in/out of the water
2 airboats
1 supervisor (with county car)
2 men to work the barge
at least 4 other men to do I know not what
about 3 days
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Non-government workers are more diligent. When I lived in Honolulu I was in
a position to see work being done while the new state capitol was being
built. There was one guy with a backhoe who was moving a pile of dirt from
one place to another. When he finished, he moved it back to where it was
originally. That's all he did, day after day...move the same pile of dirt
back and forth. Can you say, "cost plus"?


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On Apr 8, 10:56*pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy

wrote:
Took two days for a full size city crew working constanntly to completely cut up and
remove the LARGE tree's carcass!


Are you sure they worked "constantly"? *That just don't sound natural
for city workers.

I have seen many standing around, leaning on a shovel - constantly.


Home office, I can verify during all the work listening to the chipper
being USED!, hearing, watching. Actually, I was surprised too, but it
seemed due to the storm they were supposed to be MANY other places.
But I think my neighbor got some preferential priority becuase he
'owns' half of Los Gatos, plus the tree kind of fell across a bit of
SJ's north-south main street.
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On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:12:52 -0700, Robert Macy wrote:

I can verify during all the work listening to the chipper being USED!


In my part of the world, the town hires out Asplundth (sp?) contractors
to do the chipping (i.e., chipping is done by private companies working
for the town).

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On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:56:29 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
wrote:

Took two days for a full size city crew working constanntly to completely cut up and
remove the LARGE tree's carcass!


Are you sure they worked "constantly"? That just don't sound natural
for city workers.

I have seen many standing around, leaning on a shovel - constantly.


Have you seen the new invention that promises to save municipalities
at least half of their labor costs? It's a shovel that stands on its
own.
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On 4/9/2013 2:26 PM, wrote:

Have you seen the new invention that promises to save municipalities
at least half of their labor costs? It's a shovel that stands on its
own.


You could save even more money by replacing the city manager with an upside-down string mop.


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Oren wrote:
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
wrote:

Took two days for a full size city crew working constanntly to
completely cut up and remove the LARGE tree's carcass!


Are you sure they worked "constantly"? That just don't sound natural
for city workers.

I have seen many standing around, leaning on a shovel - constantly.


Oh, yes.

A few years ago the county wanted to clean out vegetation from a canal that
cuts across about 200' of our property. It took...

a roughly 25' diesel powered barge with moveable, chopping props
a crane to get the boat in/out of the water
2 airboats
1 supervisor (with county car)
2 men to work the barge
at least 4 other men to do I know not what
about 3 days
__________________

Non-government workers are more diligent. When I lived in Honolulu I was in
a position to see work being done while the new state capitol was being
built. There was one guy with a backhoe who was moving a pile of dirt from
one place to another. When he finished, he moved it back to where it was
originally. That's all he did, day after day...move the same pile of dirt
back and forth. Can you say, "cost plus"?


Can you say investment banker? Have lots of "Preparation H" available.

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