On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:

The fact that it needed to be stepped down twice
says to me either the underground pipe is much wider than required or you
have 1/2" poly coming out instead of 3/4", or both.

I *think* I have 3/4" PVC feeding the poly:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410565.jpg

What would you suggest I connect to this elbow?
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410592.jpg

I was *thinking* of cutting off the elbow, and connecting a "T",
and then from the T, screwing on *two* garden hose male threads
(I figure if one is good, two must be better).

PS: I'm partial to garden hose connections because I can remove
them easily when I get my kitchen-scrap compost location back
in the winter.

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:10:22 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

PS: I'm partial to garden hose connections because I can remove
them easily.......

So can the wife :-\

Danny D. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:

The fact that it needed to be stepped down twice
says to me either the underground pipe is much wider than required
or you have 1/2" poly coming out instead of 3/4", or both.

I *think* I have 3/4" PVC feeding the poly:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410565.jpg

What would you suggest I connect to this elbow?
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410592.jpg

I was *thinking* of cutting off the elbow, and connecting a "T",
and then from the T, screwing on *two* garden hose male threads
(I figure if one is good, two must be better).

PS: I'm partial to garden hose connections because I can remove
them easily when I get my kitchen-scrap compost location back
in the winter.

If I were you I'd connect a fitting that had a shut off valve there, and
then connect your tubing to the shut-off valve.

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Natural Girl //(**)\\

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:30:26 -0500, Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl wrote:

I'd connect a fitting that had a shut off valve

Ah, a shut-off valve makes a lot of sense!

I'll stop by the hardware store and buy a couple (one for each nursery).

Do you think I can just pull out the green water restrictor
with pliers and shove the slip-fit shutoff valve onto the existing
white pipe coming out of the elbow?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:31:55 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

Do you think I can just pull out the green water restrictor
with pliers and shove the slip-fit shutoff valve onto the existing
white pipe coming out of the elbow?

I highly doubt that you can. Remember how hard you pulled to remove
the poly from the insert? The insert is already a reduced size so not
likely you will find a ball valve in that size.

I'd cut off the elbow (save as much pipe as possible).

Then you will need:

- new 3/4 elbow

- PVC ball valve (like on your pool pump)

- a new insert for the poly

- small section of pipe (elbow to ball valve)

Repeat on the other line in the other garden section.

Unless I missed something...

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:56:30 -0700, Oren wrote:

The insert is already a reduced size so not
likely you will find a ball valve in that size.

I'd cut off the elbow (save as much pipe as possible).

I was afraid of that. Thanks for the warning.

I'll try this procedu

a. I'll try to pull the green part out of the 3/4" PVC pipe
b. If that fails, I'll cut the elbow off
and replumb with a new PVC coupling, elbow, & valve
c. Then I'll add the pipe-to-hose thread so it can be disconnected
when not in use (like when it's my compost heap again!)

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:09:37 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:56:30 -0700, Oren wrote:

The insert is already a reduced size so not
likely you will find a ball valve in that size.

I'd cut off the elbow (save as much pipe as possible).

I was afraid of that. Thanks for the warning.

I'll try this procedu

a. I'll try to pull the green part out of the 3/4" PVC pipe
b. If that fails, I'll cut the elbow off
and replumb with a new PVC coupling, elbow, & valve
c. Then I'll add the pipe-to-hose thread so it can be disconnected
when not in use (like when it's my compost heap again!)

If you get permission to do it.

I'm still in favor of the 8 port manifold. Mine is at surface level
and has been in there for ~ 8 years. Not a single problem.

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:09:37 +0000, Danny D. wrote:

a. I'll try to pull the green part out of the 3/4" PVC pipe

You guys were right.

That green stuff is there to stay.
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13419790.jpg

I'll probably cut off the elbow and start fresh, as there's
no sense in restricting the water flow from the start.

Danny D. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:30:26 -0500, Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl
wrote:

I'd connect a fitting that had a shut off valve

Ah, a shut-off valve makes a lot of sense!

I'll stop by the hardware store and buy a couple (one for each
nursery).

Do you think I can just pull out the green water restrictor
with pliers and shove the slip-fit shutoff valve onto the existing
white pipe coming out of the elbow?

I'm not sure .. you might have luck getting that green pc out if the glue
wants to let go, then again, you might end up breaking the elbow fitting
it's attached to, which would create a bigger headache to fix.

If it were me, I would just insert a new section of 1/2 inch tubing
(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...23e7ab_300.jpg)
into the existing green fitting there .. maybe a foot or so long, and buy
fittings where I could attach a shut off valve (here is one kind:
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...8d7e8e_300.jpg /
here is another:
http://www.dripirrigation.com/system...png?1331253321)
to the 1/2 inch tubing. You can get the shut off valve that attaches
directly to the 1/2" tubing, or add fittings of your choice so that you can
Y off in another direction, use T fittings at that point and add 1/2"
tubing in another direction, and go from there.

So it would look like this ... the elbow green fitting1/2" tubing (about
a foot long)shut off valve longer pc of 1/2" tubing on the other side of
the shut off valve. This pc of tubing acts as a main water line so you want
it long so you can lay it around where your garden is, then you can run 1/4"
dripper tubing from your main line. You can use the shut off valve as a
pressure regulator, too, by simply not turning it on all the way which will
reduce how much water goes through your drippers, plus you can use
adjustable sprinklers to water just at ground level, or bigger sprinklers to
get larger areas. On my front yard set-up I even have a BIG sprinkler
attached to the system that waters my entire front grass, while the flower
bed sprinklers just water their rerspective plants, only.

Sorry for being so wordy .. just hope it helps.

--
Natural Girl //(**)\\

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:08:03 -0500, "Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl"
wrote:

http://www.dripirrigation.com/system...png?1331253321)
to the 1/2 inch tubing. You can get the shut off valve that attaches
directly to the 1/2" tubing, or add fittings of your choice so that you can
Y off in another direction, use T fittings at that point and add 1/2"
tubing in another direction, and go from there.

Nice. First time I've seen this type of 1/2" poly valve.

(I need to get out more :-)

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:08:03 -0500, "Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl"
wrote:

http://www.dripirrigation.com/system...png?1331253321)
to the 1/2 inch tubing. You can get the shut off valve that attaches
directly to the 1/2" tubing, or add fittings of your choice so that
you can Y off in another direction, use T fittings at that point
and add 1/2" tubing in another direction, and go from there.

Nice. First time I've seen this type of 1/2" poly valve.

(I need to get out more :-)

haaha well .. you can do just about anything you want to do with these drip
irrigation parts.

hey, if I can do it, ANYONE can do it! :-)

--
Natural Girl //(**)\\

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:22:42 -0500, "Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:08:03 -0500, "Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl"
wrote:

http://www.dripirrigation.com/system...png?1331253321)
to the 1/2 inch tubing. You can get the shut off valve that attaches
directly to the 1/2" tubing, or add fittings of your choice so that
you can Y off in another direction, use T fittings at that point
and add 1/2" tubing in another direction, and go from there.

Nice. First time I've seen this type of 1/2" poly valve.

(I need to get out more :-)

haaha well .. you can do just about anything you want to do with these drip
irrigation parts.

hey, if I can do it, ANYONE can do it! :-)

I'll retract my prior advice to Danny. Your part is far better and
simpler. Does the same thing so he can shut of the line

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:08:03 -0500, Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl wrote:

You can get the shut off valve that attaches directly to the 1/2" tubing,

That is an option.

Something, I don't know what, seems to me that I'd prefer the permanence
of the PVC shutoff and *then* the less-permanent stuff, such as a
garden-hose thread which is then attached to the rather flimsy tubing.

But thanks for the idea as I hadn't thought of the shut-off valve,
which is just what I need.

On 6/26/2013 6:04 PM, Danny D. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:08:03 -0500, Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl wrote:

You can get the shut off valve that attaches directly to the 1/2" tubing,

That is an option.

Something, I don't know what, seems to me that I'd prefer the permanence
of the PVC shutoff and *then* the less-permanent stuff, such as a
garden-hose thread which is then attached to the rather flimsy tubing.

But thanks for the idea as I hadn't thought of the shut-off valve,
which is just what I need.


Sounds like a plan! One thing I probably should mention is those glued
pvc sections come apart after being exposed to the weather elements day
after day. You might think it is fine and you have the water pressure
on the pipe, but the valve is shut off and come home from running errand
with the pipes blown apart. We've had to re-glue every section of pvc
pipe that we've ran throughout the yard so we could get a main water
line to the back yard garden and set up the drip irrigation.

Got a call from my neighbor today that one of those sections had come
apart and was producing a geyser in our back yard. He was kind enough
to turn off the water from the source vs me rushing home to turn it off
myself.

--
Natural Girl //(**)\\

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:31:16 -0500, Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl wrote:

those glued pvc sections come apart after being exposed to the weather
elements day after day.

Hmmm... they're not supposed to.

On a.h.r, we researched what destroys the PVS, and if you paint them,
the UV light doesn't bother them, and there's not much else that will.

Of course, earthquakes and trucks driving on the lawn would break
them - as do lawn mowers and weed whackers, but they are supposed to
last longer that we will.

Still, it's a good idea to paint them. Here's a shot of my recently
repaired pool equipment, for example, where I haven't painted the
new sections I put on last month to fix the leaks.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335710.jpg