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Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?

I got Chrysanthemum spray, neam oil, hot sauce, soap,
black strap sunflower seeds. I am not opposed to adding
new things too.

Many thanks,
-T
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On 07/13/2014 02:28 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?

I got Chrysanthemum spray, neam oil, hot sauce, soap,
black strap sunflower seeds. I am not opposed to adding
new things too.

Many thanks,
-T


What do you guys think of this stuff?

http://www.saferbrand.com/store/garden-care/5102


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Todd wrote:
On 07/13/2014 02:28 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?

I got Chrysanthemum spray, neam oil, hot sauce, soap,
black strap sunflower seeds. I am not opposed to adding
new things too.

Many thanks,
-T


What do you guys think of this stuff?

http://www.saferbrand.com/store/garden-care/5102


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There are two approaches to being 'organic'. One is to try to keep your
garden free of long-lived toxins that stay in the environment and enter the
food chain, to avoid killing beneficial organisms and try to have a garden
that is a healthy ecology. The other is to follow a recipe and to avoid, or
always to use, specified substances.

Is spraying with 'organic' pyrethrin (I assume it is extracted from a daisy)
better or worse than pyrethrum synthesised in a stainless steel vat? If so
why?

Is killing bees (or butterflies or carnivorous ladybirds) with neem better
or worse than killing them with piperonyl butoxide? If so why?


David

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Todd writes:
Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?


Before you start killing things, make sure you know what it is.
Squash bugs and soldier bugs look very similar. Are you seeing
damage (or witnessing feeding)?


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feel s'more. I gotta be s'more
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On 07/14/2014 03:34 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Todd wrote:
On 07/13/2014 02:28 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?

I got Chrysanthemum spray, neam oil, hot sauce, soap,
black strap sunflower seeds. I am not opposed to adding
new things too.

Many thanks,
-T


What do you guys think of this stuff?

http://www.saferbrand.com/store/garden-care/5102



Hi David,

Some, by design, synthetic pyrethrin persist for months. I am
going for the organic ones and they break down very quickly.

And, bees are a real concern. A lot of us have trouble attracting
them, especially with the bee colony kills off of late.

Thank you for helping me with this.

-T

As a favor, would you put your replies above the "-- " (note the
space). "-- " starts the begininning of your signature block.
Everything you are wiring is coming out in your signature block.
And replies do not include signature blocks in Thunderbird. (There
are ways around it but, it takes a bunch of hand work.)
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Place replies above this mark




There are two approaches to being 'organic'. One is to try to keep your
garden free of long-lived toxins that stay in the environment and enter
the food chain, to avoid killing beneficial organisms and try to have a
garden that is a healthy ecology. The other is to follow a recipe and
to avoid, or always to use, specified substances.

Is spraying with 'organic' pyrethrin (I assume it is extracted from a
daisy) better or worse than pyrethrum synthesised in a stainless steel
vat? If so why?

Is killing bees (or butterflies or carnivorous ladybirds) with neem
better or worse than killing them with piperonyl butoxide? If so why?


David




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On 07/14/2014 06:21 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
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Todd writes:
Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?


Before you start killing things, make sure you know what it is.
Squash bugs and soldier bugs look very similar. Are you seeing
damage (or witnessing feeding)?



Hi Drew,

Oh poop (not my "exact" word)! You may have saved me
from doing something really stupid. I need all the
predator bugs I can get. Thank you!

When you said they look similar, you really meant it!

Soldier bug:
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/images/he...oldier_bug.jpg

Stink bug (squash bugs are stink bugs):
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/images/he..._bug_adult.jpg

Last years confirmed squash bugs (all deceased):
http://powerof38.files.wordpress.com...quash-bugs.jpg

The bug I observed saw was solitary. And I know that squash
bugs are highly sociable. (Makes them easier to kill!)
And, there is no sign of any bug damage anywhere.

"I stand on the shoulders of giants!"

-T

Harvested my first two zukes yesterday. Zukes straight
from the garden to the pan, what a treat!

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Todd wrote:
Hi David,

Some, by design, synthetic pyrethrin persist for months.


How do you know this?

David

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On 07/14/2014 03:34 PM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Todd wrote:
Hi David,

Some, by design, synthetic pyrethrin persist for months.


How do you know this?

David


I was told this by an exterminator who was spraying for
spiders at a customer's site. He almost sprayed my foot.

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On 07/14/2014 06:21 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
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Todd writes:
Hi All,

Got my first squash bug sighting on one of my zukes today.
A big sucker too. What is the best organic method of making
them leave?


Before you start killing things, make sure you know what it is.
Squash bugs and soldier bugs look very similar. Are you seeing
damage (or witnessing feeding)?


Hi Drew,

Spotted two soldier bugs hanging out together. Big ones too.
This time I knew to look for the spots on their sides. And
this time, I cheered them on. I think they were talking
about the stock market. Could have been the wind though.

Thank you again for stopping me from doing something stupid.

-T

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