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I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.

Any experience out there?

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On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.

Any experience out there?

HB


Hi Higgs,

I do believe your dinner companion was correct.

Does this help?

http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html

"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a
long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part
of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its
nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the
sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and
wrinkled, it should not be eaten.

I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.
Same when I find a bug, though a lot more grossed out.

-T
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:21:35 -0700, Todd wrote:

On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.

Any experience out there?

HB


Hi Higgs,

I do believe your dinner companion was correct.

Does this help?

http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html

"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a
long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part
of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its
nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the
sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and
wrinkled, it should not be eaten.

I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.


Not true, so-called organic potatoes sprout just as readily. Anyway
there is no such thing as organic potatoes... potatoes are attacked by
so many soil borne diseases that they must be chemically treated if
there is to be a crop. Actually there is no such thing as organic
produce unless grown in a greenhouse held under clean room laboratory
conditions.
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On Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:27:49 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:21:35 -0700, Todd wrote:



On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:


I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.




Any experience out there?




HB






Hi Higgs,




I do believe your dinner companion was correct.




Does this help?




http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html




"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a


long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part


of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its


nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the


sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and


wrinkled, it should not be eaten.




I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.




Not true, so-called organic potatoes sprout just as readily. Anyway

there is no such thing as organic potatoes... potatoes are attacked by

so many soil borne diseases that they must be chemically treated if

there is to be a crop. Actually there is no such thing as organic

produce unless grown in a greenhouse held under clean room laboratory

conditions.


Please let's not veer off into another of those organic-other debates. (No, Todd! Down, boy!)

I am trying to find out whether those tiny potatoes are grown that way; IOW
genetically ? altered to stay tiny. Or whether they are "regular" potatoes harvested early; seems unlikely.

So am I dealing with a RIPE potato that has been shipped all over creation for weeks, therefore ready to sprout when it gets to me? How does it stay so tiny?

TIA



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On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:32:46 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
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On Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:27:49 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:21:35 -0700, Todd wrote:



On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:


I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.




Any experience out there?




HB






Hi Higgs,




I do believe your dinner companion was correct.




Does this help?




http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html




"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a


long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part


of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its


nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the


sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and


wrinkled, it should not be eaten.




I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.




Not true, so-called organic potatoes sprout just as readily. Anyway

there is no such thing as organic potatoes... potatoes are attacked by

so many soil borne diseases that they must be chemically treated if

there is to be a crop. Actually there is no such thing as organic

produce unless grown in a greenhouse held under clean room laboratory

conditions.


Please let's not veer off into another of those organic-other debates. (No, Todd! Down, boy!)

I am trying to find out whether those tiny potatoes are grown that way; IOW
genetically ? altered to stay tiny. Or whether they are "regular" potatoes harvested early; seems unlikely.

So am I dealing with a RIPE potato that has been shipped all over creation for weeks, therefore ready to sprout when it gets to me? How does it stay so tiny?


There are many types of potato, those small ones were developed to
grow that way, same as fingerlings were developed.


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On 07/20/2014 08:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:21:35 -0700, Todd wrote:

On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.

Any experience out there?

HB


Hi Higgs,

I do believe your dinner companion was correct.

Does this help?

http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html

"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a
long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part
of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its
nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the
sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and
wrinkled, it should not be eaten.

I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.


Not true, so-called organic potatoes sprout just as readily. Anyway
there is no such thing as organic potatoes... potatoes are attacked by
so many soil borne diseases that they must be chemically treated if
there is to be a crop. Actually there is no such thing as organic
produce unless grown in a greenhouse held under clean room laboratory
conditions.


Hi Brooklyn1,

I am not sure how you got there, but what I was saying was
that a sprouted potato is a tip off that is has not been
sprayed with an anti sprouting agent. I suppose a conventional
one could not be sprayed, but usually they all are.

There may not be "perfect" organic produce, but they sure
do taste better (some of the production organic farms, not so much,
picked too green) and use a lot less persistent chemicals.
I would say, even if they are not perfect, they certainly are
more wholesome.

But to each his own. That is what the free market is for.
You have a choice. You can buy produce dripping with
chemistry set chemicals if you like or ones with a a lot
less chemicals that don't persist. It is whatever floats you
boat.

Just out of curiosity, what is your take on "Wild Grown"?

-T
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On 07/20/2014 10:32 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Please let's not veer off into another of those organic-other debates. (No, Todd! Down, boy!)


Why? Why" KIDS THESE DAYS!


I am trying to find out whether those tiny potatoes are grown that way; IOW
genetically ? altered to stay tiny. Or whether they are "regular" potatoes harvested early; seems unlikely.

So am I dealing with a RIPE potato that has been shipped all over creation for weeks, therefore ready to sprout when it gets to me? How does it stay so tiny?


I think what you may have come across is the same vegi comes in
all shapes and sized. Marketing removes the ones that the
producers don't think you will buy.

When they local farm was still open, all the weird looking
tomatoes got fed to the chickens.

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On 20/07/2014 6:21 PM, Todd wrote:
On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin
along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today.
SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric.



I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.


No, sprouting does not mean that they are organic.
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On 21/07/2014 1:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:21:35 -0700, Todd wrote:

On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.

Any experience out there?

HB


Hi Higgs,

I do believe your dinner companion was correct.

Does this help?

http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html

"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a
long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part
of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its
nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the
sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and
wrinkled, it should not be eaten.

I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.


Not true, so-called organic potatoes sprout just as readily. Anyway
there is no such thing as organic potatoes... potatoes are attacked by
so many soil borne diseases that they must be chemically treated if
there is to be a crop.


That's not right either. Spuds can be very easily grown without using
chemicals.

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On 21/07/2014 3:32 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:

I am trying to find out whether those tiny potatoes are grown that way; IOW
genetically ? altered to stay tiny. Or whether they are "regular" potatoes harvested early; seems unlikely.


They are just tiny spuds. They could be new potatoes or old potatoes
and they were just have been harvested whilst they were tiny. In other
words, size has nothing to do with genetic modification (unless you are
very unlucky and are managing to find the only GM spuds in your area).

There will have been other big spuds which were also harvested at the
same time and these tiny ones are just put in a different pack/part of
the marketed product.


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On 21/07/2014 8:03 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:32:46 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:27:49 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:21:35 -0700, Todd wrote:



On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are so long in transit.



Any experience out there?



HB





Hi Higgs,



I do believe your dinner companion was correct.



Does this help?



http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-...they-good.html



"Potato sprouts often appear when you store potatoes for a

long time ... Research has suggested that if the main part

of the potato is still firm, then it has most of its

nutrients intact and can be eaten after removing the

sprouted part. However, if the potato is shrunken and

wrinkled, it should not be eaten.



I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.



Not true, so-called organic potatoes sprout just as readily. Anyway

there is no such thing as organic potatoes... potatoes are attacked by

so many soil borne diseases that they must be chemically treated if

there is to be a crop. Actually there is no such thing as organic

produce unless grown in a greenhouse held under clean room laboratory

conditions.


Please let's not veer off into another of those organic-other debates. (No, Todd! Down, boy!)

I am trying to find out whether those tiny potatoes are grown that way; IOW
genetically ? altered to stay tiny. Or whether they are "regular" potatoes harvested early; seems unlikely.

So am I dealing with a RIPE potato that has been shipped all over creation for weeks, therefore ready to sprout when it gets to me? How does it stay so tiny?


There are many types of potato, those small ones were developed to
grow that way, same as fingerlings were developed.


No they weren't.

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Higgs Boson said:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin along
with other potatoes --small red. Went to nuke tinies today. SPROUTING!
If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric. And if they're not
babies, how is size controlled? Is it a function of species? 1 week seems
rather soon to start sprouting. Dinner companion said it's because they are
so long in transit.


Sometimes the tiny gourmet potatoes are varieties selected for small size,
and will never form enormous spuds, and sometimes they are varieties that
can grow big that are harvested small, before the vines die back (what
gardeners would call new potatoes which would definitely have a limited
shelf life). But sometimes they are a way for potato growers to make good
money on potatoes that would once upon a time be put with the culls --
potatoes deemed too damaged or too small to ship to market.

Potatoes that sprout in your house have may been in the pipeline too long,
or may have been exposed to temperatures lower or higher than ideal during
shipment or in the store. (Temperature extremes can trigger sprouting.)

My step-grandpop the huskster used to buy potatoes that had been exposed
to bad conditions in transit at the wholesale market (and which were sold as
damaged goods) then sell them from a truck as home grown. As there is no
justice, my dear, sweet grandma died young, and the old bast^h^h^h man
lived to a ripe old age.
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On 07/21/2014 01:04 AM, Fran Farmer wrote:
On 20/07/2014 6:21 PM, Todd wrote:
On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin
along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today.
SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric.



I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.


No, sprouting does not mean that they are organic.



True. Just means they were not sprayed with anti-sprouting
agents. Also means they are still alive. And,
conventional producers usually spray their stuff.
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In article
Todd writes:
On 07/21/2014 01:04 AM, Fran Farmer wrote:
On 20/07/2014 6:21 PM, Todd wrote:
On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin
along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today.
SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric.



I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.


No, sprouting does not mean that they are organic.



True. Just means they were not sprayed with anti-sprouting
agents. Also means they are still alive. And,
conventional producers usually spray their stuff.


It's been several years since I've gone through potatoes quickly.
Every bag of supermarket russets that I've bought in that time
(typically each Thanksgiving) has sprouted and started to grow.

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On 07/21/2014 11:45 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
In article
Todd writes:
On 07/21/2014 01:04 AM, Fran Farmer wrote:
On 20/07/2014 6:21 PM, Todd wrote:
On 07/19/2014 03:28 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
I bought some of those delicious tiny potatoes. Put them in veg bin
along with other potatoes -- small red. Went to nuke tinies today.
SPROUTING! If they're babies, why are they prematurely geriatric.


I always loved to see them sprout. Means they truly were organic.

No, sprouting does not mean that they are organic.



True. Just means they were not sprayed with anti-sprouting
agents. Also means they are still alive. And,
conventional producers usually spray their stuff.


It's been several years since I've gone through potatoes quickly.
Every bag of supermarket russets that I've bought in that time
(typically each Thanksgiving) has sprouted and started to grow.


Hi Drew,

Back where I could eat the things, I always loved to see
them sprout. I really can't figure out why the marketing
folks think folks would be offended by them. Maybe they
think we think they would be stale if they sprouted. I
would look for wilt for that.

When I lived in Germany, my landlord would buy a huge sack
of potatoes every fall, stick them in a special drawer in the
basement and eat on them all winter. By the end of the winter,
the drawer had sprouts growing out of it. Hysterical looking.

-T
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