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This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate
balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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"animaux" wrote in message Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! Purple Palace is not that easy to please here in the north, either. I've moved my purple leafed ones around a good bit, trying to find a spot they like. They like shade, especially from the afternoon sun, but if it's too shady they don't color up well. They are also fussy about moisture. I've had a good experience with "Eco improved", green leaves, sort of, with cool colors in the veining. It makes itself at home, and even looks pretty good throughout the winter. It has a presence. Lady's mantle is another winner, for me. I love the way the leaves hold raindrops. It does aestivate in a hot, dry summer; I trim it back and wait for fresh new foliage. cheers, Sue Zone 6, Southcentral PA |
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"SugarChile" wrote: "animaux" wrote in message Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! Purple Palace is not that easy to please here in the north, either. I've moved my purple leafed ones around a good bit, trying to find a spot they like. They like shade, especially from the afternoon sun, but if it's too shady they don't color up well. They are also fussy about moisture. I experimentally planted one Purple Palace in fairly deep shade with only indirect morning sun, another was in a somewhat dryer spot with afternoon sunlight. For the first full year they were not the best looking plants in their areas by a long shot, & I often considered moving them away from path edges so they wouldn't be quite so visible, but I didn't move them. Second year they were reasonably nice plants, but not exceptional, the one in more sunlight slightly more interesting. But the third year, both became amazing plants, huge & bushy with fabulous coloration & presence; the one in deeper shade "caught up" & surprassed the one that gets more sun. Even their wussy little sprays of inconsequential flowers became gorgeous, quite bright & long-lasting. Both now achieve equally excellent colors, whether bit of sun or hardly any they look just stunning, with the one in shade being more fully evergreen through winter, getting scruffy only near spring, the one in more light is scruffy earlier in winter though not a bad presence. By just being patient with them, I ended up with a couple of great specimens, even though they came close to being banished to unimportant areas. I've the sense that they are adaptable to a broad range of conditions & will EVENTUALLY be good plants but only after their root system get big, & that could take up to two full seasons of comparative mediocrity. I later planted "Dale's Strain" heuchera which has fabulous late-winter bright-orange coloration, is the rest of the year green with silver motteling. They've only been in the ground one year so like the "Purple Palace" are not specimen-worthy at this young age, though adequate & interesting groundcovers; I'm expecting that at the end of their second year, they'll likewise begin to look exceptional. Though I've not much experience with a lot of heuchera cultivars, my sense is that the fancier ones are just slow to reach their ideal appearance & they take their time becoming awesome. I last year added tiarellas, which were delightful spring through autumn. They're supposed to be evergreen but compared to the heucheras their winter appearance is crappy, for their first winter at least. I'll be patient with them, they too may be finer plants with each year of growth, but if they continue always to be beaten-up-looking in winter, I'll probably never add others but would prefer additional heucheras. There seem to be about 40 or 50 new cultivars of tiarellas flooded onto the market, but if truth be told, only three or four strikingy different ones, the majority all look pretty much the same. I also looked at some "heucherella" hybrids last year, which were definitely more to the tiarella side & not much like heucheras in appearance & I wasn't attracted to them enough to try even one. But they were young plants & I've never seen a mature specimen of heucherella to compare. I wonder if anyone here has experience with them & can compare their performance to heucheras & tiarellas per se when well-established in a garden. -paghat the ratgirl I've had a good experience with "Eco improved", green leaves, sort of, with cool colors in the veining. It makes itself at home, and even looks pretty good throughout the winter. It has a presence. Lady's mantle is another winner, for me. I love the way the leaves hold raindrops. It does aestivate in a hot, dry summer; I trim it back and wait for fresh new foliage. cheers, Sue Zone 6, Southcentral PA -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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Tony Avent remarked in one of his lectures that he observed a native
heuchera growing in full sun on the side of a rock in the mountains. I think this is the clue to heucheras - drainage. If they are happy growing on a rock they must need excellent drainage. Certainly I lose them to rot more than to anything else. animaux wrote: This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 03:09:50 GMT, Pam wrote:
IMO, the iris looks more like a grass than it does a lot of other irises. It is grown primarily for its valuable trait of being evergreen and readily adaptable to dry shade and the brightly colored and long lasting fruit - the flowers are quite insignifcant as irises go. I grow two different cultivars, too - the straight species and a variegated one, both produce bright, red orange, berry-like seeds. Mondo grass - regardless of color - is a great shade grass-looking plant. The black is just such a striking contrast against anything in the gold or chartreuse tones. Other than certain species of Carex, there are really no evergreen grasses for shade. Some really nice deciduous ones, though - Hakone grass, golden wood rush (Milium). Molinea. They'd add a lot of color during the growing season. pam You sent me some of those irises and from a slip, they now cover about 10 square feet in very dry shade. Everyone asks me what they are. Their foliage is much strappier than most irises and yes, they are indeed evergreen. The hakone, well, we'll see if it returns. It had one sprig last year all year! Maybe it doesn't like the heat? V |
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I don't lose mine, they simply don't look all that well. Could be the
calciferous soils we have in that shade bed. It is very dry under a live oak with a trunk diameter of 5 feet. They estimate that tree to be 400 years old, though there's no true way of telling with live oaks based on trunk diameter. On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:01:40 -0500, Pat Brothers wrote: Tony Avent remarked in one of his lectures that he observed a native heuchera growing in full sun on the side of a rock in the mountains. I think this is the clue to heucheras - drainage. If they are happy growing on a rock they must need excellent drainage. Certainly I lose them to rot more than to anything else. animaux wrote: This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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I've got one inherited from my mother that takes full sun here really well,
it probably would take the Texas heat with a bit of afternoon shade. If you'd like a piece, remind me in the spring - it multiplies really well and I'll send you a chunk. Purple palace needs the closest thing I have to full shade in my yard. Carlotta Iowa (we actually made 45 degrees today, and the ground hog didn't see his shadow !) "animaux" wrote in message ... This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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I have to replant mine every two or three years. They end up pushing their
crowns above the soil. If I don't dig and divide and replant they die out. I've got about 6 types - definitely the ones I inherited from my mom are the most hardy. Carlotta "animaux" wrote in message ... I don't lose mine, they simply don't look all that well. Could be the calciferous soils we have in that shade bed. It is very dry under a live oak with a trunk diameter of 5 feet. They estimate that tree to be 400 years old, though there's no true way of telling with live oaks based on trunk diameter. On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:01:40 -0500, Pat Brothers wrote: Tony Avent remarked in one of his lectures that he observed a native heuchera growing in full sun on the side of a rock in the mountains. I think this is the clue to heucheras - drainage. If they are happy growing on a rock they must need excellent drainage. Certainly I lose them to rot more than to anything else. animaux wrote: This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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Sure, I'd like a piece of your garden in my garden! Is there anything I can
trade for? Do you like or need any canna's? I have 'Tropicana' 'Pretoria' aka 'Phaison' and common green with yellow flowers. On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:04:42 -0600, "CWilde" wrote: I've got one inherited from my mother that takes full sun here really well, it probably would take the Texas heat with a bit of afternoon shade. If you'd like a piece, remind me in the spring - it multiplies really well and I'll send you a chunk. Purple palace needs the closest thing I have to full shade in my yard. Carlotta Iowa (we actually made 45 degrees today, and the ground hog didn't see his shadow !) "animaux" wrote in message .. . This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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I've only tried cannas once with such poor success, I was disappointed. But
they were given in the fall as tubers, and I think my basement was way too warm, and they were pretty shriveled roots by spring, I was not successful. I'd love too trade with you, I'd like to try a healthy canna in a pot next spring. I know very little about cannas, the most common around here are dark green with red flowers, what does the Pretoria look like? I'm redoing my back yard, remodeling last spring added a deck, and I'd like to do a different somewhat junglely look. Carlotta "animaux" wrote in message ... Sure, I'd like a piece of your garden in my garden! Is there anything I can trade for? Do you like or need any canna's? I have 'Tropicana' 'Pretoria' aka 'Phaison' and common green with yellow flowers. On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:04:42 -0600, "CWilde" wrote: I've got one inherited from my mother that takes full sun here really well, it probably would take the Texas heat with a bit of afternoon shade. If you'd like a piece, remind me in the spring - it multiplies really well and I'll send you a chunk. Purple palace needs the closest thing I have to full shade in my yard. Carlotta Iowa (we actually made 45 degrees today, and the ground hog didn't see his shadow !) "animaux" wrote in message .. . This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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Here is a photo:
http://www.cannas.net/pages/pretorspec.htm I made an error in my post. 'Tropicana' and 'Phaison' are the same plant. On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:12:04 -0600, "CWilde" wrote: I've only tried cannas once with such poor success, I was disappointed. But they were given in the fall as tubers, and I think my basement was way too warm, and they were pretty shriveled roots by spring, I was not successful. I'd love too trade with you, I'd like to try a healthy canna in a pot next spring. I know very little about cannas, the most common around here are dark green with red flowers, what does the Pretoria look like? I'm redoing my back yard, remodeling last spring added a deck, and I'd like to do a different somewhat junglely look. Carlotta "animaux" wrote in message .. . Sure, I'd like a piece of your garden in my garden! Is there anything I can trade for? Do you like or need any canna's? I have 'Tropicana' 'Pretoria' aka 'Phaison' and common green with yellow flowers. On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:04:42 -0600, "CWilde" wrote: I've got one inherited from my mother that takes full sun here really well, it probably would take the Texas heat with a bit of afternoon shade. If you'd like a piece, remind me in the spring - it multiplies really well and I'll send you a chunk. Purple palace needs the closest thing I have to full shade in my yard. Carlotta Iowa (we actually made 45 degrees today, and the ground hog didn't see his shadow !) "animaux" wrote in message .. . This house we bought has plenty of shade and sun! It's a very delicate balancing act I must do. I find even some plants said to be full sun are not full sun in Texas heat. Plants which need shade, want morning sun. Some want none. I have not been able to get that balance together, yet. Heuchera is a plant I can't keep looking good. Maybe if I went back to the species instead of the more burgundy foliage, newer varieties. Maybe try Lady's Mantle this year. 'Purple Palace' sits there begging to be transported to the north! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:35 GMT, Pam wrote: AFAIC, every shade plant is a must!! For some practical info, I have found that astrantias will bloom much more heavily and for a longer period if placed in more sun - all of mine (9 varieties - I like these guys!) are located in only partial shade, perhaps 4 hours of sun. Since the planting you describe is pretty much entirely herbaceous perennials, I'd consider adding something a little more evergreen to provide winter interest. Perhaps some Iris foetidissima, additional heucheras, an evergreen shade grass and some EG ferns and maybe a hellebore or two? pam - gardengal Suja wrote: Before I actually order these plants and put them in the ground, I need a reality check from those who have actual experience with them. I am putting in a shade bed in front of the house (North facing, with morning sun in the summer), and this is my short list of the plants I'm planning on getting. The soil is clay (but amended), zone 6b/7a, Northern VA. If I have left out anything that is a MUST HAVE for a shade garden (no hostas please, deer problem; much as I'd love to have Brunnera 'Jack Frost', I can't afford it right now), please let me know. Short Epimedium Sulphureum Heuchera 'Persian Carpet' Dicentra Exima 'Snowdrift' Athyrium nipponicum 'Pictum' Medium Astrantia 'Hadspen Blood' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Thelypteris Kunthii Tricyrtis hirta Tall Fallopia Japonica 'variegata' Thalictrum Aquil. Purpureum Lobelia Cardinalis 'Ruby Slipper' Cimicifuga racemosa Thanks much, Suja |
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