My yard is surrounded by cedar hedges. Mosquitoes seem to love hiding
in them during the day. A hive of possible West Nile infection!

I was wondering if spraying into the hedges with diluted liquid soap
will help diminish these guys. The soap does a good job on earwigs
and aphids.

Does anyone know if the soap will kill these pests before it does in
my cedar hedge?

Don wrote:

My yard is surrounded by cedar hedges. Mosquitoes seem to love hiding
in them during the day. A hive of possible West Nile infection!

I was wondering if spraying into the hedges with diluted liquid soap
will help diminish these guys.

No. Trimming them up and letting in light will help.


Tsu

--
To doubt everything or to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both
dispense with the necessity of reflection.
- Jules Henri Poincaré

Mosquitoes carrying West Nile Virus are easy to spot.
They will be wearing ancient Egyptian garb!!! NARF!

Me thinks you are being a bit paranoid.

Spraying them with soap will give you the cleanest "skeeters" on your block
but probably won't kill them. It really doesn't do a very good job on
earwigs or aphids either. Using an actual insecticide would be far more
effective, don't you think?

Do not leave any standing water in your yard or else you will be attracting
the "skeeters" to places where they will lay their eggs. That is the real
problem.


Don wrote in message
...
My yard is surrounded by cedar hedges. Mosquitoes seem to love hiding
in them during the day. A hive of possible West Nile infection!

I was wondering if spraying into the hedges with diluted liquid soap
will help diminish these guys. The soap does a good job on earwigs
and aphids.

Does anyone know if the soap will kill these pests before it does in
my cedar hedge?

On Mon, 26 May 2003 19:10:02 -0400, Don wrote:

My yard is surrounded by cedar hedges. Mosquitoes seem to love hiding
in them during the day. A hive of possible West Nile infection!

I was wondering if spraying into the hedges with diluted liquid soap
will help diminish these guys. The soap does a good job on earwigs
and aphids.

Does anyone know if the soap will kill these pests before it does in
my cedar hedge?

No. It will not diminish anything. Taking care to remove any standing water
in tires, bags, tops of garbage cans, jars, cans, etc. will not provide a place
to lay eggs. In our pond we use mosquito dunks for what the goldfish don't
eat. Mosquitoes need to have the pesticide hit them, make contact, to work.
Our city doesn't spray and won't spray. They hand out with the water bill the
many ways to eliminate possible breeding grounds.

Just remember that Bt used in the "dunks" also effects butterflies and
dragonflies, so keep that in mind if you're gardening to attract these
beneficial insects!

"animaux" wrote in message
...
No. It will not diminish anything. Taking care to remove any standing
water
in tires, bags, tops of garbage cans, jars, cans, etc. will not provide a
place
to lay eggs. In our pond we use mosquito dunks for what the goldfish
don't
eat. Mosquitoes need to have the pesticide hit them, make contact, to
work.
Our city doesn't spray and won't spray. They hand out with the water bill
the
many ways to eliminate possible breeding grounds.

In article ,
says...
Just remember that Bt used in the "dunks" also effects butterflies and
dragonflies, so keep that in mind if you're gardening to attract these
beneficial insects!


The dunks are Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis
....placed in water where no self respecting caterpillar
should be feeding.

Bacillus thuringiensis kurstaki - caterpillars

Bacillus thuringiensis tenebrionis - Colorado potato
beetle and elm leaf beetle larvae

Bacillus thuringiensis aizawai - wax moth larvae and
diamondback moth caterpillar

Don't think I have heard about dragonfly problems before
with them.
--


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

Bt israeli kills ONLY mosquitoes and midges... nothing else, wont hurt dragonflies.
Ingrid

Just remember that Bt used in the "dunks" also effects butterflies and
dragonflies, so keep that in mind if you're gardening to attract these
beneficial insects!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

I am aware of that, but thank you for pointing that out. We do attract a number
of damsel flies and dragon flies. We rarely use the dunks since the fish eat
their weight in larvae!

v


On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:07:45 GMT, "Jeff Hancock" wrote:

Just remember that Bt used in the "dunks" also effects butterflies and
dragonflies, so keep that in mind if you're gardening to attract these
beneficial insects!

"animaux" wrote in message
.. .
No. It will not diminish anything. Taking care to remove any standing
water
in tires, bags, tops of garbage cans, jars, cans, etc. will not provide a
place
to lay eggs. In our pond we use mosquito dunks for what the goldfish
don't
eat. Mosquitoes need to have the pesticide hit them, make contact, to
work.
Our city doesn't spray and won't spray. They hand out with the water bill
the
many ways to eliminate possible breeding grounds.

That too is good to know. I believe the big problems with mosquitoes are more
with standing water in tires, discarded plastic bags where water lingers,
buckets or cans or any number of things. I use the dunks in the rain barrels as
an added measure. I have on any given night dozens of bats roosting in the
trees every night. Same with barn swallows and purple martins. They don't only
eat mosquitoes, but their fair share.


On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:06:25 GMT, wrote:

Bt israeli kills ONLY mosquitoes and midges... nothing else, wont hurt dragonflies.
Ingrid

Just remember that Bt used in the "dunks" also effects butterflies and
dragonflies, so keep that in mind if you're gardening to attract these
beneficial insects!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Thanks for the clarification - I learn something new every day! Are there
any readily available FAQ's, white papers, etc. explaining the differences
between the different Bt types?

Regards, Jeff

"Lar" wrote in message
The dunks are Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis
...placed in water where no self respecting caterpillar
should be feeding.

Bacillus thuringiensis kurstaki - caterpillars

Bacillus thuringiensis tenebrionis - Colorado potato
beetle and elm leaf beetle larvae

Bacillus thuringiensis aizawai - wax moth larvae and
diamondback moth caterpillar

Don't think I have heard about dragonfly problems before
with them.
--


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

In article ,
says...
Thanks for the clarification - I learn something new every day! Are there
any readily available FAQ's, white papers, etc. explaining the differences
between the different Bt types?


I would guess that if you just did a web search on the
different BT varieties, numerous info would be found.
--
Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

Insects Controlled by Bt
Kurstaki strain (Biobit, Dipel, MVP,
Steward, Thuricide, etc.):
Vegetable insects
• Cabbage worm (cabbage looper,
imported cabbageworm, diamondback
moth, etc.).
• Tomato and tobacco hornworm.
Field and forage crop insects
• European corn borer (granular
formulations have given good control
of first generation corn borers).
• Alfalfa caterpillar, alfalfa webworm.
Fruit crop insects
• Leafroller.
• Achemon sphinx.
Tree and shrub insects
• Tent caterpillar.
• Fall webworm.
• Leafroller.
• Redhumped caterpillar.
• Spiny elm caterpillar.
• Western spruce budworm.
• Pine budworm.
• Pine butterfly.

Israelensis strains (Vectobac,
Mosquito Dunks, Gnatrol, Bactimos,
etc.)
• Mosquito.
• Black fly.
• Fungus gnat.

San diego /tenebrionis strains
(Trident, M-One, M-Trak, Foil,
Novodor, etc.)
• Colorado potato beetle.
• Elm leaf beetle.
• Cottonwood leaf beetle.


On Fri, 30 May 2003 16:57:38 GMT, animaux
wrote:

That too is good to know. I believe the big problems with mosquitoes are more
with standing water in tires, discarded plastic bags where water lingers,
buckets or cans or any number of things. I use the dunks in the rain barrels as
an added measure. I have on any given night dozens of bats roosting in the
trees every night. Same with barn swallows and purple martins. They don't only
eat mosquitoes, but their fair share.


On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:06:25 GMT, wrote:

Bt israeli kills ONLY mosquitoes and midges... nothing else, wont hurt dragonflies.
Ingrid

Just remember that Bt used in the "dunks" also effects butterflies and
dragonflies, so keep that in mind if you're gardening to attract these
beneficial insects!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.



"Nature, left alone, is in perfect balance.
Harmful insects and plant diseases are always present,
but do not occur in nature to an extent which requires the use of poisonous chemicals.
The sensible approach to disease and insect control is to grow sturdy crops in a healthy environment."

Masanobu Fukuoka, One Straw Revolution--1978