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Old 28-07-2003, 05:22 PM
Billy
 
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We will be re-planting shrubs, plants & small trees on our front property
here in NJ. I'm seeking advice on the best way to prepare the land and soil
for this job.

The approximate area is 25' wide x 10' deep and was recently cleared of all
the old hedges and small trees- removal, stump grinding and all. The dirt on
my property is a hard clay type but this area was softened (dry and almost
mushy) by the removal work. I recently raked and whacked all weeds growing
there too. Next, I plan on sealing the area with a plastic weed barrier,
topping with good topsoil, then digging the holes and inserting the
shrubs/plants/trees.

Is the above method correct for starting new plantings? Should I use the
weed barrier? Do I need the topsoil? Will fall be the best time to plant for
them to survive the winter? Is there anything else I should be doing?

If you have a web site how-to link, that would help me too!


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Old 29-07-2003, 01:02 AM
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I'd do just as you're doing except for a few things. I'd put on the topsoil
and rototill it in before laying down the weed barrier. Then plan on a good
mulch of bark or pine straw on top of the barrier material both to hold the
material in place and enhance the soil even more as well as hold in the
moisture. The barrier may be good, but it's not going to outdo Mother
Nature, guaranteed.
Gary
"Billy" wrote in message
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We will be re-planting shrubs, plants & small trees on our front property
here in NJ. I'm seeking advice on the best way to prepare the land and

soil
for this job.

The approximate area is 25' wide x 10' deep and was recently cleared of

all
the old hedges and small trees- removal, stump grinding and all. The dirt

on
my property is a hard clay type but this area was softened (dry and almost
mushy) by the removal work. I recently raked and whacked all weeds growing
there too. Next, I plan on sealing the area with a plastic weed barrier,
topping with good topsoil, then digging the holes and inserting the
shrubs/plants/trees.

Is the above method correct for starting new plantings? Should I use the
weed barrier? Do I need the topsoil? Will fall be the best time to plant

for
them to survive the winter? Is there anything else I should be doing?

If you have a web site how-to link, that would help me too!




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Old 29-07-2003, 01:42 AM
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Maybe I should then forget the barrier? What is rototill, and over or under
what does this go?

"V_coerulea" wrote in message
news
I'd do just as you're doing except for a few things. I'd put on the
topsoil
and rototill it in before laying down the weed barrier. Then plan on a

good
mulch of bark or pine straw on top of the barrier material both to hold

the
material in place and enhance the soil even more as well as hold in the
moisture. The barrier may be good, but it's not going to outdo Mother
Nature, guaranteed.
Gary
"Billy" wrote in message
...
We will be re-planting shrubs, plants & small trees on our front

property
here in NJ. I'm seeking advice on the best way to prepare the land and

soil
for this job.

The approximate area is 25' wide x 10' deep and was recently cleared of

all
the old hedges and small trees- removal, stump grinding and all. The

dirt
on
my property is a hard clay type but this area was softened (dry and

almost
mushy) by the removal work. I recently raked and whacked all weeds

growing
there too. Next, I plan on sealing the area with a plastic weed barrier,
topping with good topsoil, then digging the holes and inserting the
shrubs/plants/trees.

Is the above method correct for starting new plantings? Should I use the
weed barrier? Do I need the topsoil? Will fall be the best time to plant

for
them to survive the winter? Is there anything else I should be doing?

If you have a web site how-to link, that would help me too!






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Old 29-07-2003, 07:42 AM
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Hey Billy,
1) A rototiller is a machine that turns the soil over, which saves you
having to do it by hand.
2) If your soil is pretty heavy clay you need to add a 2" layer of sand to
the topsoil before you use the rototiller or shovel. The sand will help with
the drainage of the soil. Some peat moss wouldn't hurt either (same amount
as the sand).
3) It would also be wise to add a sprinkle of bone meal in every hole that
you plant in. Mix some more in the soil you are filling the hole with.
Hope this helps,
--
Jayel
"Billy" wrote in message
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We will be re-planting shrubs, plants & small trees on our front property
here in NJ. I'm seeking advice on the best way to prepare the land and

soil
for this job.

The approximate area is 25' wide x 10' deep and was recently cleared of

all
the old hedges and small trees- removal, stump grinding and all. The dirt

on
my property is a hard clay type but this area was softened (dry and almost
mushy) by the removal work. I recently raked and whacked all weeds growing
there too. Next, I plan on sealing the area with a plastic weed barrier,
topping with good topsoil, then digging the holes and inserting the
shrubs/plants/trees.

Is the above method correct for starting new plantings? Should I use the
weed barrier? Do I need the topsoil? Will fall be the best time to plant

for
them to survive the winter? Is there anything else I should be doing?

If you have a web site how-to link, that would help me too!




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Old 29-07-2003, 05:32 PM
Billy
 
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Forgive me if I'm being stupid, but why is it required that I turn the soil
over before topsoil and planting?

"J. Lane" wrote in message
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Hey Billy,
1) A rototiller is a machine that turns the soil over, which saves you
having to do it by hand.
2) If your soil is pretty heavy clay you need to add a 2" layer of sand to
the topsoil before you use the rototiller or shovel. The sand will help

with
the drainage of the soil. Some peat moss wouldn't hurt either (same amount
as the sand).
3) It would also be wise to add a sprinkle of bone meal in every hole that
you plant in. Mix some more in the soil you are filling the hole with.
Hope this helps,
--
Jayel
"Billy" wrote in message
...
We will be re-planting shrubs, plants & small trees on our front

property
here in NJ. I'm seeking advice on the best way to prepare the land and

soil
for this job.

The approximate area is 25' wide x 10' deep and was recently cleared of

all
the old hedges and small trees- removal, stump grinding and all. The

dirt
on
my property is a hard clay type but this area was softened (dry and

almost
mushy) by the removal work. I recently raked and whacked all weeds

growing
there too. Next, I plan on sealing the area with a plastic weed barrier,
topping with good topsoil, then digging the holes and inserting the
shrubs/plants/trees.

Is the above method correct for starting new plantings? Should I use the
weed barrier? Do I need the topsoil? Will fall be the best time to plant

for
them to survive the winter? Is there anything else I should be doing?

If you have a web site how-to link, that would help me too!








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Old 29-07-2003, 08:32 PM
Marley1372
 
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Default Planting New Shrubs - How to Prepare Soil?

Forgive me if I'm being stupid, but why is it required that I turn the soil
over before topsoil and planting?


The idea is that you add organic matter to the soil and then turn it over to
mix it in. If you rototill and dont add anything, you are basically making the
situation worse. I wouldnt add sand unless you like to waste time and money on
things.

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Old 30-07-2003, 01:02 PM
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If you rototill and dont add anything, you are basically making the
situation worse.
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Billy
 
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Maybe I should then forget the barrier? What is rototill, and over or under
what does this go?

"V_coerulea" wrote in message
news
I'd do just as you're doing except for a few things. I'd put on the
topsoil
and rototill it in before laying down the weed barrier. Then plan on a

good
mulch of bark or pine straw on top of the barrier material both to hold

the
material in place and enhance the soil even more as well as hold in the
moisture. The barrier may be good, but it's not going to outdo Mother
Nature, guaranteed.
Gary
"Billy" wrote in message
...
We will be re-planting shrubs, plants & small trees on our front

property
here in NJ. I'm seeking advice on the best way to prepare the land and

soil
for this job.

The approximate area is 25' wide x 10' deep and was recently cleared of

all
the old hedges and small trees- removal, stump grinding and all. The

dirt
on
my property is a hard clay type but this area was softened (dry and

almost
mushy) by the removal work. I recently raked and whacked all weeds

growing
there too. Next, I plan on sealing the area with a plastic weed barrier,
topping with good topsoil, then digging the holes and inserting the
shrubs/plants/trees.

Is the above method correct for starting new plantings? Should I use the
weed barrier? Do I need the topsoil? Will fall be the best time to plant

for
them to survive the winter? Is there anything else I should be doing?

If you have a web site how-to link, that would help me too!






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