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Old 19-09-2003, 01:02 AM
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If you scrounge 19 overstuffed bags of leaves two years ago and pile them up
in an out of way space, will they compost over that period of time into
black humus? The answer is yes.............I finally pulled the bags of
leaves I'd scrounged in Sevierville along side of the road on my way home
when I worked up in Gatlinburg, and then tossed under the kitchen deck until
I had time to dump them into my compost pile.

I actually had scrounged about 29 huge bags of leaves, but had actually used
ten of them over the last year or two when I thought of it, but the lion's
share of them sat quietly under the deck decomposing. I noticed yesterday
as I was cleaning off the downstairs patio slab that is in front of the
laundry room/den that one bag was almost decomposed completely and what was
inside was black and there were huge earthworms. That's all it took.

Today I planted the four althea's along the northern edge of the first ridge
behind our house and was wondering what I'd fill the holes up with. The soil
was worse than concrete with the dry spell we've had recently. All the rains
we've gotten have done their best and worst but now with NO rain, there are
huge cracks in the soil now. I couldn't get the shovel into the soil to
even make a hole. It took the maddock.

One althea had too much soil and provided it's own top fill, but the other
three were looking like they were going to be living out the fall and winter
in their nursery pot when I decided I'd plug them under the walnut tree in
the walnut box with the hardy begonia, Ladies of the valley, Sum and
Substance hosta, and bronze ajuga. But there wasn't adequate soil at the
northern end of the box. Ahhhhh, never mind, I will at least be able to dig
a hole for the bushes, and topdress them with a bag or two of the leaf
compost under the deck. I took them all. It was wonderful. Every bag was two
thirds less than what it had been. But each one had rich, damp, black
compost.

The box now has two altheas. One pure white one called Diana. The other is
Aphrodite, a deep pink with deep burgandy pink throat. The other ones are a
double red and a double pink-purple one that I planted on either side of the
other two doubles. When they grow together, their combination of double
puffs of color will be intriguing. And the pure white Diana is the cleanest
white one I've ever seen, standing next to the deep pink Aphrodite will be
kinda neat too.

Down in the tomato box I planted "Magic Carpet" spirea to join the Goldflame
one I'd plugged in the corner three weeks earlier. I am slowly making my
way away from the constipated front and side beds. There's hope for me yet.
And oh joy, oh joy, I got my baby Deutzia from Brudder John today in the
mail and it's tucked against the northern side of the tomato box near a
rich, composty area where the soil slowly leeches out, and a cedar stump has
finally given it's life and is providing it's own compost. As I dug out the
spot for the bush, I had to return fat earthworms back in the hole with the
little bush. I can't wait until it tastes the rich soil and takes off into
growth......Life is good!

madgardener up on the ridge, back in fairy holler where the hummers are
straffing each other like little Red Baron's right now just outside my nook
window, where I can see English Mountain in the waining sunset, the sides of
the mountains slopes lit up and the textures evident, here in Easterh
Tennessee where it's going down to the low 50's tonight......great sleeping
weather! g


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Old 19-09-2003, 01:47 AM
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I'm envious. While cleaning out my backyard when I first moved here I found
black plastic bags that someone had used to gather weeds/leaves and
forgotten about. I opened them up and discovered real treasure. Every year
I wished I had enough leaves to compost this way buy I need them all to
cover my shade garden.
DK

"Madgardener" wrote in message
...
If you scrounge 19 overstuffed bags of leaves two years ago and pile them

up
in an out of way space, will they compost over that period of time into
black humus? The answer is yes.............I finally pulled the bags of
leaves I'd scrounged in Sevierville along side of the road on my way home
when I worked up in Gatlinburg, and then tossed under the kitchen deck

until
I had time to dump them into my compost pile.

I actually had scrounged about 29 huge bags of leaves, but had actually

used
ten of them over the last year or two when I thought of it, but the lion's
share of them sat quietly under the deck decomposing. I noticed yesterday
as I was cleaning off the downstairs patio slab that is in front of the
laundry room/den that one bag was almost decomposed completely and what

was
inside was black and there were huge earthworms. That's all it took.

Today I planted the four althea's along the northern edge of the first

ridge
behind our house and was wondering what I'd fill the holes up with. The

soil
was worse than concrete with the dry spell we've had recently. All the

rains
we've gotten have done their best and worst but now with NO rain, there

are
huge cracks in the soil now. I couldn't get the shovel into the soil to
even make a hole. It took the maddock.

One althea had too much soil and provided it's own top fill, but the other
three were looking like they were going to be living out the fall and

winter
in their nursery pot when I decided I'd plug them under the walnut tree in
the walnut box with the hardy begonia, Ladies of the valley, Sum and
Substance hosta, and bronze ajuga. But there wasn't adequate soil at the
northern end of the box. Ahhhhh, never mind, I will at least be able to

dig
a hole for the bushes, and topdress them with a bag or two of the leaf
compost under the deck. I took them all. It was wonderful. Every bag was

two
thirds less than what it had been. But each one had rich, damp, black
compost.

The box now has two altheas. One pure white one called Diana. The other

is
Aphrodite, a deep pink with deep burgandy pink throat. The other ones are

a
double red and a double pink-purple one that I planted on either side of

the
other two doubles. When they grow together, their combination of double
puffs of color will be intriguing. And the pure white Diana is the

cleanest
white one I've ever seen, standing next to the deep pink Aphrodite will be
kinda neat too.

Down in the tomato box I planted "Magic Carpet" spirea to join the

Goldflame
one I'd plugged in the corner three weeks earlier. I am slowly making my
way away from the constipated front and side beds. There's hope for me

yet.
And oh joy, oh joy, I got my baby Deutzia from Brudder John today in the
mail and it's tucked against the northern side of the tomato box near a
rich, composty area where the soil slowly leeches out, and a cedar stump

has
finally given it's life and is providing it's own compost. As I dug out

the
spot for the bush, I had to return fat earthworms back in the hole with

the
little bush. I can't wait until it tastes the rich soil and takes off

into
growth......Life is good!

madgardener up on the ridge, back in fairy holler where the hummers are
straffing each other like little Red Baron's right now just outside my

nook
window, where I can see English Mountain in the waining sunset, the sides

of
the mountains slopes lit up and the textures evident, here in Easterh
Tennessee where it's going down to the low 50's tonight......great

sleeping
weather! g




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Old 19-09-2003, 05:02 AM
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instead of being envious DK, scour your neighborhoods for bags of raked up
leaves sitting beside the curb. Had I not turned down this road on my way
home and seen them piled high, I might not have stopped. But I passed them
only three times before I decided on my way home from work, I'd stop and ask
the owner if I could have them. The woman laughed and said I was the third
person who had stopped and asked to have those bags of leaves and she didn't
care. It would be first come first serve. Knowing this, I crammed every bag
I could into the back seat of the four door ford truck and bed of the truck
I could, totalling 29. She was amused. But on my way to work the next day
the remaining 9 bags I had to leave behind weren't there. The other persons
or person who'd stopped and asked before me had gotten the rest......I've
always taken bags of leaves, even when I lived in Nashville. I've composted
since 1974. g madgardener
"dkat" wrote in message
. net...
I'm envious. While cleaning out my backyard when I first moved here I

found
black plastic bags that someone had used to gather weeds/leaves and
forgotten about. I opened them up and discovered real treasure. Every

year
I wished I had enough leaves to compost this way buy I need them all to
cover my shade garden.
DK



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Old 21-09-2003, 02:32 AM
dkat
 
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Yes, I did that a couple of times until I came home with bags of leaves that
were filled with garbage (plastic, metal, etc.) ... I'm not sure if I'm
willing to risk going through that fun again (I was not paying attention as
I dumped bag after bag before looking at what I was dumping out). Until the
town changed its policy and started insisting on people putting their leaves
in bags I would go to the near neighbors and take all the leaves they had
put on the curb, rake them onto a tarp and pull them into my yard. I loved
my neighbor that was foolish enough to rake the pine needles up from under
his trees and put them on the curb. When the city would do spring and fall
pickups of whatever lawn matter you put on the curb people would put entire
plants out. My best curbside pickup was dozens of hostas that a woman
decided weren't what she wanted under her tree (she thought impatiens would
look better - they couldn't compete with the tree roots and were a complete
failure). Some days it amazes me what people throw out. My yard is filled
with these treasures. Everything from a dozen glorious spirea to several
full grown azaleas. I think these are my favorite plants because I saved
them from a sure death. DKat


"Madgardener" wrote in message
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instead of being envious DK, scour your neighborhoods for bags of raked up
leaves sitting beside the curb. Had I not turned down this road on my way
home and seen them piled high, I might not have stopped. But I passed them
only three times before I decided on my way home from work, I'd stop and

ask
the owner if I could have them. The woman laughed and said I was the third
person who had stopped and asked to have those bags of leaves and she

didn't
care. It would be first come first serve. Knowing this, I crammed every

bag
I could into the back seat of the four door ford truck and bed of the

truck
I could, totalling 29. She was amused. But on my way to work the next day
the remaining 9 bags I had to leave behind weren't there. The other

persons
or person who'd stopped and asked before me had gotten the rest......I've
always taken bags of leaves, even when I lived in Nashville. I've

composted
since 1974. g madgardener
"dkat" wrote in message
. net...
I'm envious. While cleaning out my backyard when I first moved here I

found
black plastic bags that someone had used to gather weeds/leaves and
forgotten about. I opened them up and discovered real treasure. Every

year
I wished I had enough leaves to compost this way buy I need them all to
cover my shade garden.
DK





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