In article ,
says...
If one does, you would be
willing to risk your own life with neuro toxins in order to keep them dead. Oh
well, takes all kinds.


The true risk is the drive to the store for the
insecticides. But I'm sure her kind, assuming she falls
into the category as all, is a careful driver.
--
Neat site:
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...ienceopticsu/p
owersof10/

Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

In article ,
says...
BTW, I've never spent time studying, but I've not seen spiders snagging ants
and roaches. Have I been missing something?


Wolf spiders, jumping spiders and even brown recluses
are know for running about snagging their prey without a
web, which include all the crawling insects such as ants
and roaches..even small reptiles.
--

http://home.comcast.net/~larflu/spid2.jpg

Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

"zhanataya" wrote in message
...
How do they gain access when we have screens
on all the windows and the doors are never left open? Are they able to
invade when they are small enough to come through the screens? Inquiring
minds want to know! G

John

They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. They do bother me though when the babies are balloning around
and I get a face full of silk.

zhan

I had never really thought of that before, but you're probably right. The
babies are certainly small enough to avoid notice unless one was
specifically looking for them. Barb isn't really afraid of spiders, but they
drive her to distraction when they decide to spin their webs between the
screen and the window - particularly when it's just before company arrives
and she hasn't noticed the webs earlier. G

John

Well, in my idle moments I suppose it's fascinating to sit and watch a large
spider spin its complicated web.

BTW, I've never spent time studying, but I've not seen spiders snagging ants
and roaches. Have I been missing something?

Well, maybe not ants and roaches (don't have any, thankfully) but lots of other
little things. Here is a link to pictures of some of my seasonal cohabitants
(Joe and Jolene) this year. They are fascinating to watch:
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...ts/jumping.htm
sed5555

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:34:05 GMT, "Tina Gibson"
wrote:

I love spiders - they are our friends. Please don't kill out friends..

Oh, gimme a break. While it's very St. Francis to love every living
creature, and rabbit on about "places in the natural world," humans
and their dwellings have a place, too. A good rainstorm "naturally"
kills far more insects (or arachnids) than anyone tidying their porch
could. Spiders are interesting. They have their place in the natural
scheme of things, which *isn't* spinning webs inside my car. Many
people find all spiders creepy. Few want to host snakes in their
basements, however beneficial their habits (mostly) are.

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:34:05 GMT, "Tina Gibson"
wrote:

I love spiders - they are our friends. Please don't kill out friends..

Oh, gimme a break. While it's very St. Francis to love every living
creature, and rabbit on about "places in the natural world," humans
and their dwellings have a place, too. A good rainstorm "naturally"
kills far more insects (or arachnids) than anyone tidying their porch
could. Spiders are interesting. They have their place in the natural
scheme of things, which *isn't* spinning webs inside my car. Many
people find all spiders creepy. Few want to host snakes in their
basements, however beneficial their habits (mostly) are.

I knew someone would bite...and amuse me.

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0500, zhanataya opined:


They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. They do bother me though when the babies are balloning around
and I get a face full of silk.

zhan

I solved that problem by using a bamboo pole for the daily morning walks through
the gardens. I prod up ahead and if there are webs I try not to disturb them.
Fortunately, the large orb spiders nest and web on or near the plants which
attract grasshoppers. I don't kill spiders. Black widow or brown recluse, if
found in the garage or near our house are put into a jar and released way in the
back corner of the yard. I see no reason to kill them.

Victoria

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:29:49 GMT, "Tina Gibson" opined:


"Frogleg" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:34:05 GMT, "Tina Gibson"
wrote:

I love spiders - they are our friends. Please don't kill out friends..

Oh, gimme a break. While it's very St. Francis to love every living
creature, and rabbit on about "places in the natural world," humans
and their dwellings have a place, too. A good rainstorm "naturally"
kills far more insects (or arachnids) than anyone tidying their porch
could. Spiders are interesting. They have their place in the natural
scheme of things, which *isn't* spinning webs inside my car. Many
people find all spiders creepy. Few want to host snakes in their
basements, however beneficial their habits (mostly) are.

I knew someone would bite...and amuse me.


V

"Sed5555" wrote in message

limey wrote:
BTW, I've never spent time studying, but I've not seen spiders snagging
ants
and roaches. Have I been missing something?

Well, maybe not ants and roaches (don't have any, thankfully) but lots of
other
little things. Here is a link to pictures of some of my seasonal
cohabitants
(Joe and Jolene) this year. They are fascinating to watch:
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...ts/jumping.htm
sed5555

Ugh, ugh, ugh! grin
Well, I don't have roaches either, but we do get ants marching into the
house in spring and fall. Those spiders are certainly lying down on the job
at those times. Another poster says they catch snakes? Good lord, how big
are those spiders?

Dora

"animaux" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0500, zhanataya opined:


They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. They do bother me though when the babies are balloning around
and I get a face full of silk.

zhan

I solved that problem by using a bamboo pole for the daily morning walks
through
the gardens. I prod up ahead and if there are webs I try not to disturb
them.
Fortunately, the large orb spiders nest and web on or near the plants
which
attract grasshoppers. I don't kill spiders. Black widow or brown
recluse, if
found in the garage or near our house are put into a jar and released way
in the
back corner of the yard. I see no reason to kill them.

Victoria

Yay Victoria!! We don't have any poisonous spiders in our area - just the
regular type that only itch if they bite.
We probably have a bazillion in the yard and in the house - but I made my
peace with spiders yrs ago. They are beautiful creatures and do us a great
service - inside and out. Of course my cats love them too and often spend
hrs in the woodpile in the basement (for woodstove) during the long winter
nights hunting them - so the balance is kept - I don't need to step in. I
don't believe it is up to me to knowingly kill anything - I like to grow
things and help them thrive- not destroy them. That is why I am a gardener.
We are all here to procreate and perpetuate our own species and I for one
will not knowingly kill without purpose!! Now if anyone had a good recipe
for spider stew and we were going hungry....

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0500, zhanataya opined:


They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. They do bother me though when the babies are balloning around
and I get a face full of silk.

zhan

How about these teeney babies?

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/newgarden/

V-taken by the pool

"animaux" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0500, zhanataya opined:


They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. They do bother me though when the babies are balloning around
and I get a face full of silk.

zhan

How about these teeney babies?

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/newgarden/

V-taken by the pool

very cool!

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:29:49 GMT, "Tina Gibson"
wrote:


"Frogleg" wrote

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:34:05 GMT, "Tina Gibson"
wrote:

I love spiders - they are our friends. Please don't kill out friends..

Oh, gimme a break. While it's very St. Francis to love every living
creature, and rabbit on about "places in the natural world," humans
and their dwellings have a place, too. A good rainstorm "naturally"
kills far more insects (or arachnids) than anyone tidying their porch
could. Spiders are interesting. They have their place in the natural
scheme of things, which *isn't* spinning webs inside my car. Many
people find all spiders creepy. Few want to host snakes in their
basements, however beneficial their habits (mostly) are.

I knew someone would bite...and amuse me.

I haven't bitten anyone in *years*. Happy to hear you're amused.

"Tina Gibson" wrote in message news:K5wlb.147803$pl3.2468@pd7tw3no...
"animaux" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0500, zhanataya opined:


They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. They do bother me though when the babies are balloning around
and I get a face full of silk.

zhan

I solved that problem by using a bamboo pole for the daily morning walks
through
the gardens. I prod up ahead and if there are webs I try not to disturb
them.
Fortunately, the large orb spiders nest and web on or near the plants
which
attract grasshoppers. I don't kill spiders. Black widow or brown
recluse, if
found in the garage or near our house are put into a jar and released way
in the
back corner of the yard. I see no reason to kill them.

Victoria

Yay Victoria!! We don't have any poisonous spiders in our area - just the
regular type that only itch if they bite.
We probably have a bazillion in the yard and in the house - but I made my
peace with spiders yrs ago. They are beautiful creatures and do us a great
service - inside and out. Of course my cats love them too and often spend
hrs in the woodpile in the basement (for woodstove) during the long winter
nights hunting them - so the balance is kept - I don't need to step in. I
don't believe it is up to me to knowingly kill anything - I like to grow
things and help them thrive- not destroy them. That is why I am a gardener.
We are all here to procreate and perpetuate our own species and I for one
will not knowingly kill without purpose!! Now if anyone had a good recipe
for spider stew and we were going hungry....

Hi, this is my first post here. Going thru Google for articles on
grasshoppers, found a Victoria who had fears of them as I sometimes
do..

I;m so glad that she's still here (when I checked for her messages
they were no later than 1999) since I tend to sometimes share the same
fear she does,esp.as a kid. She's in good company regarding
grasshopper worries. Out here in SOuthern California we can gwet them
about 5 inches (the books on insects in the area understate hopper
sizes at about 2 and a half inches at the most..I know that, legs
strecthing behind the thorax notwithstanding that hoppers are AT least
5 inches given one of Victori'a posts some years ago.

"Steve Carras" wrote in message
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"Tina Gibson" wrote in message
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"animaux" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0500, zhanataya
opined:


They probably hitched a ride in on your clothes or groceries. But I
wouldn't tell Barb that. ;-) Spiders are my favorite in the insect
world. ...............

Spiders are not insects.
The are arachnides, which are arthropods, & have 8 legs not 6.

Harvey