I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.

Criteria/needs as below...

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes that
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my
house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a
twig in the ground, though.

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a
Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sort
of oak that would work well?

Thanks for any feedback!

Scott in Houston

I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.

Criteria/needs as below...

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes that
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my
house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a
twig in the ground, though.

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a
Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sort
of oak that would work well?

One last thing, how BIG could I buy a tree that I am looking for? I'd
rather get off on a running start and would like to plant the largest
tree possible with the above criteria for up to 2-300 dollars. Where
would I go for something like this?

"SJE" wrote in message
...
I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.

Criteria/needs as below...

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes that
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my
house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a
twig in the ground, though.

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a
Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sort
of oak that would work well?

Neither of those maples are particularly well adapted to Tecas heat, nor do
they tend to be very drought tolerant. Shantung maple (Acer truncatum) is a
btter choice - far more heat and drought tolerant - also a hybrid maple with
A. truncatum in its parentage, Acer x 'Warrenred' (also sold as 'Pacific
Sunset') shows good results in hot, dry climates. Tupelo or Nyssa sylvatica
would be another good choice. All get great fall color.

Lots of oaks will do well : bur oak, chinquapin, water oak, Shumard and live
oak are all trees recommended for Texas gardens.

Couple of other points - fast growing trees tend to be not very long-lived.
Most trees will put on1-3 feet of growth annually once established. Anything
faster than that and you probably have a trash tree or one that will develop
significant problems. Patience is necessary or purchase a large enough
specimen initially. Also, 10-15 feet from the house maybe a little close for
any of these trees. Make sure it is planted far enough away from any
structure so that the mature canopy will be unobstructed - better for the
tree, less change of storm damage, leaf /litter build up or branches
scraping the siding or roof.

pam - gardengal

Scott, Pam brought up some excellent points in her response to you
(patience, tree selection/
characteristics, location)

Given the specs you quoted for planting, you will have fewer choices of
selections. Trees need to room to spread unobstructedly as they
naturally develop. Also, as it sounds, you need trees that are more
upright than spreading. In this scenario, I would suggest:

1. Betula nigra, River Birch. (2 of them) (20' X 40')
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...etulanigra.htm
The link says the tree is short lived and they go to about 40 years of
age. They are pleasingly fast growing and a pair would give you a nice
balance in the small area you are trying to populate. The three trunked
ones are nice.

2. Platanus mexicana Mexican Sycamore (1 of them)
http://frontpage.auburn.edu/cosam/ab...cationID=3D127
http://www.auburn.edu/arboretum/tree...sycamore2.jpg=

*Note* the image in the link is an P. occidentalis which is an American
Sycamore. The Mexican Sycamore is not quite as wide and not as tall (20'
X 50'). I have planted several of these for customers and they grow very
fast.

Something else you could do is to screen the back of your area with some
shrubs. That will hie any commercial development that ccurs and helps to
dampen te noise level.

1. Ilex vomitoria "Pride of Houston" Yaupon =

http://www.magnoliagardensnursery.co...lex_Pride.html

2. Ilex vomitoria "Will Fleming" Yaupon. A thin and narrow specimen.
http://www.ag.auburn.edu/landscape/dbpages/198.html

3. Ungnadia speciosa Mexican Buckeye
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...ungnadiaspeci=
o.htm

4. Ilex decidua Possomhaw Holly
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...lexdecidua.htm

5. Myrica cerifera Southern Wax Myrtle
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...acerifera.htm=


6. Prunus mexicana Mexicam Plum
http://www.magnoliagardensnursery.co...pe/Prunus_Mex=
ican.html

Something else considering this time of year - Citrus. Oranges, limes
and limequats, kumquats.
January/early February is the time to select and purchase and plant.
They are evergreen, many are cold hardy for Houston and they have fruit.

Urban Harvest, http://www.urbanharvest.org, will be having its annual
fruit tree sale on the 17th. A real good nursery for you in your area is
RCW, http://www.etera.com/Signpost.asp?sp=3D1&dlr=3D1379. They have a tre=
e
farm in Plantersville and they have a good inventory to chose from.
Magnolia Gardens and Treesearch are wholesale only.

Oaks will overpower your area and Maples will engulf the open space with
canopy.

Hope this helps some.

J. Kolenovsky
http://www.celestialhabitats.com

SJE wrote:
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I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.
=

Criteria/needs as below...
=

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.
=

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes that
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my
house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.
=

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.
=

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a
twig in the ground, though.
=

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.
=

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a
Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sort
of oak that would work well?
=

Thanks for any feedback!
=

Scott in Houston

-- =

Celestial Habitats by J. Kolenovsky
2003 Honorable Mention Award, Keep Houston Beautiful
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com - business
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html - personal

Near the Museum of Art in Houston are these great Canary Island palms. How
about a palm tree or two or three? They don't need to be that far from the
house, and will give shade and grow relatively fast. You can probably buy two
rather large palms for the amount you want to spend.


On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:05:38 GMT, SJE
opined:

I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.

Criteria/needs as below...

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes that
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my
house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a
twig in the ground, though.

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a
Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sort
of oak that would work well?

Thanks for any feedback!

Scott in Houston

a nice pin oak would do good
"SJE" wrote in message
...
I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.

Criteria/needs as below...

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes that
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my
house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a
twig in the ground, though.

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a
Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sort
of oak that would work well?

Thanks for any feedback!

Scott in Houston

I found Pin Oak on the A & M website as two different but closely
related oaks.
Personally, I like the Nuttall Oak one as it is more Ph tolerant and not
as tall and wide as the other.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...usnuttallii.h=
tm
Quercus phellos is the other and its a close runner-up.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...usphellos.htm=


J



john wrote:
=

a nice pin oak would do good
"SJE" wrote in message
...
I'm about to move into my new house in NW Houston, TX...and I would
like some advice for a good shade tree or two to plant in my back
yard. It will likely get lots of sun and water.

Criteria/needs as below...

1) Would like it to eventually serve as a screen for my 2nd floor
bonus room, as land behind my back fence may eventually become
commericial and unsightly.

2) I don't want the roots to be a risk to my foundation or pipes tha=
t
may be underground. The tree will likely be planted 10-15 ft from my=

house and maybe 5-10 ft from underground lines.

3) Hardy. I don't think I have a green thumb. I can make sure it
has enough water, but I want a tree that would be tough to kill.

4) Fast growing a plus, though can be sacrificed for the above. I
don't want to wait endless years for it to look like a tree and not a=

twig in the ground, though.

5) A tree that attracted wildlife (squirrels, birds, etc) might be
nice as a bonus....though bottom of the list of importance.

Based on my current googling of these groups...I was thinking maybe a=

Freeman or Red Maple. Do those grow well in steamy Houston? Any sor=
t
of oak that would work well?

Thanks for any feedback!

Scott in Houston

-- =

Celestial Habitats by J. Kolenovsky
2003 Honorable Mention Award, Keep Houston Beautiful
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com - business
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html - personal