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"Heynony" wrote in message ... Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. ...... You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. Assuming a perfect square, 20 acres would be 312 yards on a side. The very best NFL quarterbacks can, under duress, throw 50-55 yards with a modicum of accuracy. An outfielder in baseball is expected to only reach 1st, 2nd, or 3rd base with a deep throw (40-50 yards) & then the accuracy will be questionable at best (it's usually not even close). Pete H -- We are all of one nation, all of one creed We are all out of nature, all of one seed I. Bairnson |
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Nick Danger wrote:
I've seen the future, and it glows. Please stay on the yellow rubber line....... Welcome to the future; it's just starting now. Thank you. Pete H aka The Bad Bozo -- We are all of one nation, all of one creed We are all out of nature, all of one seed I. Bairnson |
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Heynony wrote:
Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Plenty large for self-sufficiency if used properly. It mostly depends on climate and soil conditions, though. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). Well, lessee... An acre is 43,560 sq ft, so a 20 acre square would be 871,200 sq ft, or about 933 feet on a side. Now, why in the hell would I put my house close to the neighbors when I can easily put it in the middle, 400+ feet away from them? -- Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH |
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Nick Danger wrote:
I've seen the future, and it glows. Please stay on the yellow rubber line....... Welcome to the future; it's just starting now. Thank you. Pete H aka The Bad Bozo -- We are all of one nation, all of one creed We are all out of nature, all of one seed I. Bairnson |
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Heynony wrote:
Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Plenty large for self-sufficiency if used properly. It mostly depends on climate and soil conditions, though. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). Well, lessee... An acre is 43,560 sq ft, so a 20 acre square would be 871,200 sq ft, or about 933 feet on a side. Now, why in the hell would I put my house close to the neighbors when I can easily put it in the middle, 400+ feet away from them? -- Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH |
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"Peter H" wrote in message
... wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. Assuming a perfect square, 20 acres would be 312 yards on a side. The very best NFL quarterbacks can, under duress, throw 50-55 yards with a modicum of accuracy. An outfielder in baseball is expected to only reach 1st, 2nd, or 3rd base with a deep throw (40-50 yards) & then the accuracy will be questionable at best (it's usually not even close). What people forget is that a rock is not a football, or a baseball, or a grenade. A baseball can be thrown much further than a whiffle ball, a rock further than a baseball, and, unless the rock is smooth and symmetrical and of the same size and weight, a grenade further than a rock. CC |
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"Peter H" wrote in message
... wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. Assuming a perfect square, 20 acres would be 312 yards on a side. The very best NFL quarterbacks can, under duress, throw 50-55 yards with a modicum of accuracy. An outfielder in baseball is expected to only reach 1st, 2nd, or 3rd base with a deep throw (40-50 yards) & then the accuracy will be questionable at best (it's usually not even close). What people forget is that a rock is not a football, or a baseball, or a grenade. A baseball can be thrown much further than a whiffle ball, a rock further than a baseball, and, unless the rock is smooth and symmetrical and of the same size and weight, a grenade further than a rock. CC |
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"Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:18:27 -0500, "" wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... KB9WFK wrote: responding to "your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch" you are saying that after the collapse, my neighbors biceps are going to mutate into such freakishly large proportions that they will be able to throw rocks 20 acres? Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). The concept is not hugely off. From center to center, probably more on point, it would take a great tee shot rather than a thrown rock. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. A rock is more like a baseball than a football. A major league outfielder can throw a baseball 100 yards. In my younger days, so could I. Okay, a rock then. 325 feet from home plate is the shortest distance permissible by major-league standards to the fence. I doubt there are many that can throw anything from that distance and reach homeplate. Jose Guillen, had one of strongest arms in baseball and one night he managed a 375' (125 yard) throw, from warning track to homeplate. This is from an extraordinary guy. And you could almost match him when you were a kid? |
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"Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:18:27 -0500, "" wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... KB9WFK wrote: responding to "your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch" you are saying that after the collapse, my neighbors biceps are going to mutate into such freakishly large proportions that they will be able to throw rocks 20 acres? Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). The concept is not hugely off. From center to center, probably more on point, it would take a great tee shot rather than a thrown rock. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. A rock is more like a baseball than a football. A major league outfielder can throw a baseball 100 yards. In my younger days, so could I. Okay, a rock then. 325 feet from home plate is the shortest distance permissible by major-league standards to the fence. I doubt there are many that can throw anything from that distance and reach homeplate. Jose Guillen, had one of strongest arms in baseball and one night he managed a 375' (125 yard) throw, from warning track to homeplate. This is from an extraordinary guy. And you could almost match him when you were a kid? |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:28:34 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
That's funny. I remember the Internet in the Pacific Northwest being down for a half a day a while back because some farmer got careless with a backhoe. It is still dependent on microwave links and fiber-optic cables are more vulnerable than copper ones. A few teams of saboteurs could bring down the Internet right now, and never be caught. They'd just have to sever T1 lines over and over again, and it isn't possible to patrol the hundreds of thousands of miles of them... AC Geez, Alan Chuckle, you are funny. Thanks, I needed the laugh. Bob |
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wrote in message ... Heynony wrote: Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Plenty large for self-sufficiency if used properly. It mostly depends on climate and soil conditions, though. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). Well, lessee... An acre is 43,560 sq ft, so a 20 acre square would be 871,200 sq ft, or about 933 feet on a side. Now, why in the hell would I put my house close to the neighbors when I can easily put it in the middle, 400+ feet away from them? Cos then you wouldn't need to lay 400' of drive just to get to your boundary :-)) |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:58:31 GMT, Alan Connor said:
Like a lot of the folks on this group, he just can't really believe that the only way of life he's ever known can cease to be. Almost everyone here is preparing for a temporary breakdown and will be purely stray, and armed and desperate, when they learn otherwise. And they aren't taking into account groups like mine, which intend to make double-damned-sure this civilization stays dead. Actually Alan, there are groups like mine and several others who will make damn sure your group does not survival. And we will use every type of modern weapon there is execpt nukes. Your little band of hippys will all be slaughtered in just a matter of minutes.You can't hide from a thermal imaging scope and a bunch of highly trained personal (hence not a bunch of bubba rednecks sucking down beer) You may have had some fun ****ing with somedumb ass retarded drunk hunter who wandered onto your place, but don't steriotype the rest of the hunters/gun collectors/survivalists, etc... with those drunkened idiots that you have gotten away with ****ing with If itsa war you want alan post TEOTWAWKI, then its a war you shall have. Expect to be invaded be superior forces and enslaved. Remember this war will not start untill after TEOTWAWKI. You had better prepare now alanc of wildwood, because after the crash, those of you who resist enslavment will be killed. Those that resist the invasion of wildwood will be killed, no prisoners will be taken, all of wildwoods wounded will be shot. Just remember, The axis of hippies will be defeated by the United Survivalists of America (the USA) And lets not forget our Brit survivalists friends (The UK or United Killers) And I simply can't wait for an attack from the wildwood blimp corps, I have A few wrist rockets that should take out a blimp just fine, and if they won't do the job, then my 460 magnum should do wonders, and remember any survivors will be executed on the spot. (we just don't see a hemp woven wrap around as a military uniform and you will be shot as a spy under the rules of warfare) Not that there is anything wrong with technology per se, but the main thrust behind technology is the need to sell more and more stuff, not any real benefit to the world, and often quite the contrary. The other mis-guided (and mis-guiding) faction here are the ones that think they are going to live like the pioneers. Wrong. There are far more people and way fewer unspoiled lands than there were then. I call these factions the Campers, and the Davey Crocketts. The people who survive will be gardeners/gatherers and handcrafters. They will know their plants and how to turn them into clothing and heat and light and food and paper and medicine and shelter and chemicals. They will survive only if they leave me and mine alone, if not then you will have your war. GENERAL AC {Of the Wildwood defence force} |
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On 19 Jan 2004 18:45:25 GMT, (Frank White) wrote:
(snip) However, although there are some changes taking place there - a huge bulge developing at the bottom of Yellowstone Lake, the ground in some areas of the park becoming so hot it can't be walked on - there is nothing to suggest immediate danger. Of course, that's "immediate" in the geological sense, right? ;) |
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Alan Connor wrote:
Now there's an idea. Whether or not man is causing "global warming", man could correct it. Man could also probably fix the "nuclear winter" by vaporizing an appropriate volume of ocean with nukes. That's just brilliant. AC Actually, the same basic idea, using mirrors in orbit to melt ice sheets, was proposed nearly 60 years ago. A very few years later, mirrors on the moon were used in a sci-fi story as weapons of mass destruction. In terms of physics, there's not a single reason why eather plan wouldn't work. Pete H -- We are all of one nation, all of one creed We are all out of nature, all of one seed I. Bairnson |
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On 19 Jan 2004 18:45:25 GMT, (Frank White) wrote:
(snip) However, although there are some changes taking place there - a huge bulge developing at the bottom of Yellowstone Lake, the ground in some areas of the park becoming so hot it can't be walked on - there is nothing to suggest immediate danger. Of course, that's "immediate" in the geological sense, right? ;) |
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Alan Connor wrote:
Now there's an idea. Whether or not man is causing "global warming", man could correct it. Man could also probably fix the "nuclear winter" by vaporizing an appropriate volume of ocean with nukes. That's just brilliant. AC Actually, the same basic idea, using mirrors in orbit to melt ice sheets, was proposed nearly 60 years ago. A very few years later, mirrors on the moon were used in a sci-fi story as weapons of mass destruction. In terms of physics, there's not a single reason why eather plan wouldn't work. Pete H -- We are all of one nation, all of one creed We are all out of nature, all of one seed I. Bairnson |
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Alan Connor wrote:
The abuse and over-indulgence an emotion-based judement which you do not support with data in technology is a big part of what's CAUSING This theme has been around for centuries. Recycling is a perfect example of the folly of most technological 'solutions'. Relatively few "technological solutions" involve recycling in any form. It actually does more immediate harm to the environment than throwing things in a landfill and making new stuff. Over a lengthy term, the two are roughly equivalent. Your statement assumes a steady supply of raw materials and a steady state of available energy which in many cases is not the case. It also assumes a stable supply of "away" to throw things into. One of the first lessons of the first Earth Day in 1970 - were you with us then? - was that we could not longer throw things "away," since in reality there is no such place. Pete H -- We are all of one nation, all of one creed We are all out of nature, all of one seed I. Bairnson |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:28:33 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
(snip) Recycling is a perfect example of the folly of most technological 'solutions'. It actually does more harm to the environment than throwing things in a landfill and making new stuff. Prove it. Don't just claim it as the truth. That's why recycled paper costs more than regular paper, even with subsidies. Ah, pretending it's ALREADY been proven. Good logic there. |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:28:34 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
(snip) CO in an open area is NEVER lethal. Do your homework and quit telling falsehoods. CO in an open area is also hard to control. How do you control the concentration enough to make sure it's effective? Must be magic. To kill someone with CO they pretty much have to breathe a 100% mixture for an extended period of time. And you've verified this how? |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:16 -0500, North wrote:
(piggybacking) GENERAL AC {Of the Wildwood defence force} Why do idiots like this with delusions of grandeur ALWAYS appoint themselves as either Colonels or Generals? :/ |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:51 -0500, ""
wrote: "Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:18:27 -0500, "" wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... KB9WFK wrote: responding to "your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch" you are saying that after the collapse, my neighbors biceps are going to mutate into such freakishly large proportions that they will be able to throw rocks 20 acres? Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). The concept is not hugely off. From center to center, probably more on point, it would take a great tee shot rather than a thrown rock. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. A rock is more like a baseball than a football. A major league outfielder can throw a baseball 100 yards. In my younger days, so could I. Okay, a rock then. 325 feet from home plate is the shortest distance permissible by major-league standards to the fence. I doubt there are many that can throw anything from that distance and reach homeplate. Jose Guillen, had one of strongest arms in baseball and one night he managed a 375' (125 yard) throw, from warning track to homeplate. This is from an extraordinary guy. And you could almost match him when you were a kid? As a young man, I could throw a baseball 100 yards. It isn't a superhuman feat. Have you ever thrown a baseball? Are you 6'3 and WELL muscled? I was. -- Robert Sturgeon, proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy and the evil gun culture. |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:51 -0500, ""
wrote: "Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:18:27 -0500, "" wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... KB9WFK wrote: responding to "your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch" you are saying that after the collapse, my neighbors biceps are going to mutate into such freakishly large proportions that they will be able to throw rocks 20 acres? Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). The concept is not hugely off. From center to center, probably more on point, it would take a great tee shot rather than a thrown rock. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. A rock is more like a baseball than a football. A major league outfielder can throw a baseball 100 yards. In my younger days, so could I. Okay, a rock then. 325 feet from home plate is the shortest distance permissible by major-league standards to the fence. I doubt there are many that can throw anything from that distance and reach homeplate. Jose Guillen, had one of strongest arms in baseball and one night he managed a 375' (125 yard) throw, from warning track to homeplate. This is from an extraordinary guy. And you could almost match him when you were a kid? As a young man, I could throw a baseball 100 yards. It isn't a superhuman feat. Have you ever thrown a baseball? Are you 6'3 and WELL muscled? I was. -- Robert Sturgeon, proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy and the evil gun culture. |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:25:02 -0500, Peter H wrote:
Condor Chef wrote: What people forget is that a rock is not a football, or a baseball, or a grenade. Footballs & baseballs have already been covered by this thread & even by professional throwers found quite wanting. And, should you be able to throw a hand grenade 100 yards or better, it would explode before landing, pretty well obviating the reason for throwing one in the first place. It's simply not a feasible feat. Any rock you might throw (by hand, but I most seriously doubt it) 100 yards would not be an effective weapon. Someone around here needs to look up "figure of speech". *I* certainly didn't even imply that anyone would try to throw a rock for an 1/8 of a mile as a weapon. AC |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:25:02 -0500, Peter H wrote:
Condor Chef wrote: What people forget is that a rock is not a football, or a baseball, or a grenade. Footballs & baseballs have already been covered by this thread & even by professional throwers found quite wanting. And, should you be able to throw a hand grenade 100 yards or better, it would explode before landing, pretty well obviating the reason for throwing one in the first place. It's simply not a feasible feat. Any rock you might throw (by hand, but I most seriously doubt it) 100 yards would not be an effective weapon. Someone around here needs to look up "figure of speech". *I* certainly didn't even imply that anyone would try to throw a rock for an 1/8 of a mile as a weapon. AC |
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On 2004-01-20, Noah Simoneaux wrote:
On 19 Jan 2004 20:41:11 GMT, wrote: Well, lessee... An acre is 43,560 sq ft, so a 20 acre square would be 871,200 sq ft, or about 933 feet on a side. Now, why in the hell would I put my house close to the neighbors when I can easily put it in the middle, 400+ feet away from them? I was wondering the same thing. My neighbor(on the other piece of property I own) built his house about 100 feet from my fence on his 10 acres. My 10 acres is mostly sloping, with the only fairly level piece being next to that same fence, so we're about like neighbors in the suburbs there. The neighbor's 10 acres is mostly level, so they could have built their house anywhere on it. I bet that he was quoted an enormous fee to extend the water and electric lines any further than near your fence. In my case, when I hooked up to the rural water system I saved close to $1,000 by avoiding the need to make another road cut to get to the water main on the other side of the road (they instead tee'ed off from behind my grandmother's water meter on my side of the road, and put my water meter right beside hers). Then I had the fun of running the actual water line from the water meter to my home (oh joy, slogging manual labor with shovel). -- Eric Green http://news.badtux.net/ |
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:27:48 GMT, wrote:
On 2004-01-20, Noah Simoneaux wrote: On 19 Jan 2004 20:41:11 GMT, wrote: Well, lessee... An acre is 43,560 sq ft, so a 20 acre square would be 871,200 sq ft, or about 933 feet on a side. Now, why in the hell would I put my house close to the neighbors when I can easily put it in the middle, 400+ feet away from them? I was wondering the same thing. My neighbor(on the other piece of property I own) built his house about 100 feet from my fence on his 10 acres. My 10 acres is mostly sloping, with the only fairly level piece being next to that same fence, so we're about like neighbors in the suburbs there. The neighbor's 10 acres is mostly level, so they could have built their house anywhere on it. I bet that he was quoted an enormous fee to extend the water and electric lines any further than near your fence. Nah, can't be that. His first residence on his property was a mobile home, which he had set up on the far side of his property. To build the house he had to extend the driveway, power lines, and water lines almost the entire distance across his property. :/ In my case, when I hooked up to the rural water system I saved close to $1,000 by avoiding the need to make another road cut to get to the water main on the other side of the road (they instead tee'ed off from behind my grandmother's water meter on my side of the road, and put my water meter right beside hers). Then I had the fun of running the actual water line from the water meter to my home (oh joy, slogging manual labor with shovel). Living here in the Ozarks I didn't even think about trying to dig my 900+ feet of water line by hand. I bet the rocks here even wear out backhoes and trenchers faster. |
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Alan/Mabu/GunKid will load up their Main Battle Wheelbarrows with
laser sighted Lorcin .380s, DingDongs and Twinkies, a couple dogeared and stained copies of Hustlers Beaver Hunt Specials and shortly be run over by a middle aged long haired Vietnam vet in a Dodge Ram pickup Bugging Out, who will only look in the rear view mirror to see what caused that gyser of shit and the muffled thump. Gunner, that last line made me spray my Mt Dew on my monitor, you owe me. Well, I'll let it go, best laugh I've had today. |
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"Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:51 -0500, "" wrote: "Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:18:27 -0500, "" wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... KB9WFK wrote: responding to "your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch" you are saying that after the collapse, my neighbors biceps are going to mutate into such freakishly large proportions that they will be able to throw rocks 20 acres? Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). The concept is not hugely off. From center to center, probably more on point, it would take a great tee shot rather than a thrown rock. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. A rock is more like a baseball than a football. A major league outfielder can throw a baseball 100 yards. In my younger days, so could I. Okay, a rock then. 325 feet from home plate is the shortest distance permissible by major-league standards to the fence. I doubt there are many that can throw anything from that distance and reach homeplate. Jose Guillen, had one of strongest arms in baseball and one night he managed a 375' (125 yard) throw, from warning track to homeplate. This is from an extraordinary guy. And you could almost match him when you were a kid? As a young man, I could throw a baseball 100 yards. It isn't a superhuman feat. Have you ever thrown a baseball? Are you 6'3 and WELL muscled? I was. I am 6'2" and was considered well defined in my day and still am. I still think you are having exaggerated memories though. Oh well, enjoy them. |
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"Alan Connor" wrote in message ink.net... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:25:02 -0500, Peter H wrote: Condor Chef wrote: What people forget is that a rock is not a football, or a baseball, or a grenade. Footballs & baseballs have already been covered by this thread & even by professional throwers found quite wanting. And, should you be able to throw a hand grenade 100 yards or better, it would explode before landing, pretty well obviating the reason for throwing one in the first place. It's simply not a feasible feat. Any rock you might throw (by hand, but I most seriously doubt it) 100 yards would not be an effective weapon. Someone around here needs to look up "figure of speech". *I* certainly didn't even imply that anyone would try to throw a rock for an 1/8 of a mile as a weapon. No, but now you've implied that there are 800 yards to a mile. |
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"Vietnam vet in a Dodge Ram pickup
Bugging Out, who will only look in the rear view mirror to see what caused that gyser of shit and the muffled thump." Na, we'll be driving 71 FORD 250's paited caution yellow powered by 390 engines and have our scopes in the back. But realy, living out here in the Mojave Desert I could just run everyone else out of the trailer park and set up Ft.Mojave in it. -- "In this universe the night was falling,the shadows were lengthening towards an east that would not know another dawn. But elsewhere the stars were still young and the light of morning lingered: and along the path he once had followed, man would one day go again." Arthur C. Clarke, The City & The Stars SIAR www.starlords.org Freelance Writers Shop http://www.freelancewrittersshop.netfirms.com Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Ad World http://adworld.netfirms.com "Bill Dearth" wrote in message news:_D7Pb.107058$na.67317@attbi_s04... Alan/Mabu/GunKid will load up their Main Battle Wheelbarrows with laser sighted Lorcin .380s, DingDongs and Twinkies, a couple dogeared and stained copies of Hustlers Beaver Hunt Specials and shortly be run over by a middle aged long haired Vietnam vet in a Dodge Ram pickup Bugging Out, who will only look in the rear view mirror to see what caused that gyser of shit and the muffled thump. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.563 / Virus Database: 355 - Release Date: 1/17/04 |
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Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:51 -0500, "" wrote: "Robert Sturgeon" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:18:27 -0500, "" wrote: "Heynony" wrote in message ... KB9WFK wrote: responding to "your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch" you are saying that after the collapse, my neighbors biceps are going to mutate into such freakishly large proportions that they will be able to throw rocks 20 acres? Certainly he was exaggerating, but 20 acre plots aren't all that large. Unless I can't do math in my head anymore (quite possible): if your house was offset 80% off center towards the neighbor's lot and his front porch offset similarly toward yours (not totally unreasonable), the throw would be possible, I think (I could throw a rock close to 100 yards as a kid and I was far from the best). The concept is not hugely off. From center to center, probably more on point, it would take a great tee shot rather than a thrown rock. You could throw a rock "almost" a hundred yards - as a kid? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the best quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the entire length of a football field. A rock is more like a baseball than a football. A major league outfielder can throw a baseball 100 yards. In my younger days, so could I. Okay, a rock then. 325 feet from home plate is the shortest distance permissible by major-league standards to the fence. I doubt there are many that can throw anything from that distance and reach homeplate. Jose Guillen, had one of strongest arms in baseball and one night he managed a 375' (125 yard) throw, from warning track to homeplate. This is from an extraordinary guy. And you could almost match him when you were a kid? As a young man, I could throw a baseball 100 yards. It isn't a superhuman feat. Have you ever thrown a baseball? Are you 6'3 and WELL muscled? I was. I am not 6'3" - more like 5'6" - but I was fairly well-muscled - about 150 lb; max bench press of 255 lb; one-handed clean-and-jerk of 95 lb; 45' puts with a 12 lb shot - and the best thrown I could manage was about 93-94 yards. I lived across the street during this time from Granada Hills High School in the San Fernando Valley, John Elway's high school (saw him play baseball there one afternoon), and I went over to the football field specifically to see how far I could throw a baseball. I had always imagined I had a good arm, and I wanted to know just how good. I'd stand in one end zone, run towards the goal line, and heave it as hard as I could toward the other end zone. The best I could get was a couple or three yards inside the far 10 yard line, and other than "toward the far end zone", I had no idea where the thing was going. Damn, I knew this theme was something I had seen before in misc.rural (where I'm following the thread), and it didn't take me long to find it. It was that FAT **** Boob Adkins, bragging that he once could throw a football over 70 yards, and a softball - not a baseball - 100 yards or more. He also claimed he could throw a 14+ ounce grenade 75 yards or more, "on a straight line", when he was in the army. What a ****ing shit-4-braincell liar. You can't read Boob's post directly, because the GUTLESS COWARD always posts using x-no-archive, but you can read it in my reply to it: http://tinyurl.com/2thfp |
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:57:47 GMT, Jonathan Ball
wrote: (snips) Damn, I knew this theme was something I had seen before in misc.rural (where I'm following the thread), and it didn't take me long to find it. It was that FAT **** Boob Adkins, bragging that he once could throw a football over 70 yards, and a softball - not a baseball - 100 yards or more. I could throw a softball 60 yards or so. A baseball is a MUCH better missile than a softball. Unfortunately, I don't have a WayBack machine. I really don't understand why throwing a baseball 100 yards is such a big deal. Any good major league outfielder can throw the ball from the foul line fence to home plate on the fly. They don't do it because the accuracy tends to fall way off, so they throw to the cutoff man who can then throw accurately in to home plate, or to another base if that makes more sense. Throwing the ball all the way in from the foul line fence is seldom a Good Idea, but it isn't an impossible feat, either. Heck, the catcher throws the ball 40 yards with 1 step from a crouch. The difference between a major leaguer and an amateur isn't strength, it's skill. (rest snipped) -- Robert Sturgeon, proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy and the evil gun culture. |
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Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:57:47 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote: (snips) Damn, I knew this theme was something I had seen before in misc.rural (where I'm following the thread), and it didn't take me long to find it. It was that FAT **** Boob Adkins, bragging that he once could throw a football over 70 yards, and a softball - not a baseball - 100 yards or more. I could throw a softball 60 yards or so. A baseball is a MUCH better missile than a softball. Unfortunately, I don't have a WayBack machine. I really don't understand why throwing a baseball 100 yards is such a big deal. It wasn't a big deal, in the original post; somehow, as things have a way of doing in usenet, it evolved into a big deal. Also, because usenet attracts boastful liars like Boob Adkins, whose absurd claims can't be verified, these things take on a life of their own. Any good major league outfielder can throw the ball from the foul line fence to home plate on the fly. They don't do it because the accuracy tends to fall way off, so they throw to the cutoff man who can then throw accurately in to home plate, or to another base if that makes more sense. Throwing the ball all the way in from the foul line fence is seldom a Good Idea, but it isn't an impossible feat, either. Heck, the catcher throws the ball 40 yards with 1 step from a crouch. The difference between a major leaguer and an amateur isn't strength, it's skill. (rest snipped) -- Robert Sturgeon, proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy and the evil gun culture. |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:28:29 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
(snip) (your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from their front porch) Irrelevant. My neighbors won't be throwing rocks my way. They'll be watching for Amazon warriors(and their little runt sidekicks) trying to put birth-control drugs into our wells. ;) (snip) If you HAVE to run, then you had better know your wild edible plants, of which there are more than 1800 species in North America, because trapping and hunting will SERIOUSLY slow you down... Sounds amazingly like GUNkid. Imagine that. Two different internet putzes with delusions of adequacy. :/ |
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