I would like to get rid of some useless trees and replace them with,
first, fruit trees (for example, apple trees), and, second, with trees
that produce edible nuts.

What kinds of fruit and nut trees can I plant in this climate?
(Northern Illinois)

i

Check www.midfex.org, Midwest Fruit Explorers for more info.

Sherwin Dubren

Ignoramus12245 wrote:

I would like to get rid of some useless trees and replace them with,
first, fruit trees (for example, apple trees), and, second, with trees
that produce edible nuts.

What kinds of fruit and nut trees can I plant in this climate?
(Northern Illinois)

i

Check www.midfex.org, Midwest Fruit Explorers for more info.

Sherwin Dubren

Ignoramus12245 wrote:

I would like to get rid of some useless trees and replace them with,
first, fruit trees (for example, apple trees), and, second, with trees
that produce edible nuts.

What kinds of fruit and nut trees can I plant in this climate?
(Northern Illinois)

i

consider that fruit trees require spraying and upkeep. not doing so provides a
breeding ground for pests of fruit trees that can affect commercial crops or even
neighbors crops. look around the area and if there are apple trees that are
untended, forget apples unless you like the idea of spraying every 7 days.
nut trees are less fussy. most nuts in our neck of the woods requires a sledge
hammer to open. Ingrid

Ignoramus12245 wrote:

I would like to get rid of some useless trees and replace them with,
first, fruit trees (for example, apple trees), and, second, with trees
that produce edible nuts.

What kinds of fruit and nut trees can I plant in this climate?
(Northern Illinois)

i



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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:49:33 GMT, wrote:

consider that fruit trees require spraying and upkeep. not doing so provides a
breeding ground for pests of fruit trees that can affect commercial crops or even
neighbors crops. look around the area and if there are apple trees that are
untended, forget apples unless you like the idea of spraying every 7 days.
nut trees are less fussy. most nuts in our neck of the woods requires a sledge
hammer to open. Ingrid

Ignoramus12245 wrote:

I would like to get rid of some useless trees and replace them with,
first, fruit trees (for example, apple trees), and, second, with trees
that produce edible nuts.

What kinds of fruit and nut trees can I plant in this climate?
(Northern Illinois)


And if there are squirrels in your area, unless you plant so many that
even they can't cut them all off, you'll not see many nuts..and it
will take quite a few years for them to bear. Find out what Zone
you're in, and consult the catalogs, they state the zone hardiness
for what they sell. Talk with your local Land Grant University County
Agricultural Agents.. master gardeners see if they have any
information of what grows well in your area.

I tried to grow a sweet heart apricot, it has an almond like kernel.
Squirrels cut every single one .. but one at the very tip of a small
branch, from the tree while they were still green! I figured there is
no way I could grow nut trees anywhere there are squirrels present.
Killing them only brings in more as they are territorial, kill 1, 15
will try to take its territory.

I do go along with the advice above, if you are in an area where there
are others growing apples or pears nearby untended, codling moth will
be horrible. I can usually grow peaches in my area, zone 6, without
too many pests as codling moth prefers apples and pears to peaches,
and I don't have plum curculio so I figure I'd likely be able to grow
some plums/prunes here, nectarines too, but no apples or pears or
cherries. Cherry tree that should be cut down next door that is
totally uncared for.

I planted blueberries, didn't think they were bothered by codling
moth, but after I'd spent the money to plant them, I found out that is
one of the pests on the list along with the cherry maggot fly that
infest them. I have a feeling I'm going to have to build a screen
house to keep the pests out as well as the birds should they live and
produce anything. *sigh* never would have planted them had I known
codling moth and cherry maggot would get into them as I'm not
spraying.

Janice


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wrote in message ...
consider that fruit trees require spraying and upkeep. not doing so provides a
breeding ground for pests of fruit trees that can affect commercial crops or even
neighbors crops. look around the area and if there are apple trees that are
untended, forget apples unless you like the idea of spraying every 7 days.
nut trees are less fussy. most nuts in our neck of the woods requires a sledge
hammer to open. Ingrid


that is not quite right. chestnuts, walnuts and filberts require no
spray, and (to answer another post) chestnuts are not accessible to
squirrels. Cherry, pear, persimmon, serviceberry, mulberry and pawpaw
require no spraying. If one is willing to build a trellis, hardy kiwi
and grapes require no spray. Of course, blueberry, blackberry, and
raspberry require no spray. If the OP selects some of the trees above,
he can get fruits continuously from late june to november.

I said, nuts are less fussy, meaning no spray. but frankly, the chestnuts are asian
and not as palatable. thin walled walnuts dont grow up here, filberts are not really
winter hardy to N. Illinois. cherry & pear get fire blight, cherries are gone
without complete protection, pears get fungus and other pests. the taste persimmons
are not hardy, hardy ones will barely get ripe same for paw paw.
yes, grapes of the hardy variety (seeded) type do fine with a single dormant spray
and careful culture to keep air moving. mulberry, yes. hardy kiwi YES!!!!! seems
our squirrels dont know they are edible. but they do ripen at individual rate and
must be picked daily .. otoh, no peeling. raspberries, of course. INgrid


(simy1) wrote:

wrote in message ...
consider that fruit trees require spraying and upkeep. not doing so provides a
breeding ground for pests of fruit trees that can affect commercial crops or even
neighbors crops. look around the area and if there are apple trees that are
untended, forget apples unless you like the idea of spraying every 7 days.
nut trees are less fussy. most nuts in our neck of the woods requires a sledge
hammer to open. Ingrid


that is not quite right. chestnuts, walnuts and filberts require no
spray, and (to answer another post) chestnuts are not accessible to
squirrels. Cherry, pear, persimmon, serviceberry, mulberry and pawpaw
require no spraying. If one is willing to build a trellis, hardy kiwi
and grapes require no spray. Of course, blueberry, blackberry, and
raspberry require no spray. If the OP selects some of the trees above,
he can get fruits continuously from late june to november.



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On 18 Apr 2004 08:50:39 -0700, (simy1) wrote:

wrote in message ...
consider that fruit trees require spraying and upkeep. not doing so provides a
breeding ground for pests of fruit trees that can affect commercial crops or even
neighbors crops. look around the area and if there are apple trees that are
untended, forget apples unless you like the idea of spraying every 7 days.
nut trees are less fussy. most nuts in our neck of the woods requires a sledge
hammer to open. Ingrid


that is not quite right. chestnuts, walnuts and filberts require no
spray, and (to answer another post) chestnuts are not accessible to
squirrels. Cherry, pear, persimmon, serviceberry, mulberry and pawpaw
require no spraying. If one is willing to build a trellis, hardy kiwi
and grapes require no spray. Of course, blueberry, blackberry, and
raspberry require no spray. If the OP selects some of the trees above,
he can get fruits continuously from late june to november.

what's an OP? I ask as I've seen it twice and couldn't figure out
what it meant in the context used. Clothing brand? Operator? ??

All depends on the area. I read that blueberries are infested by
codling moth and cherry fruit maggots. Wasn't thrilled to see that,
since I have a neighbor who doesn't spray her apples or cherries.
Their cherries are infested with the cherry fly, the ones with stripes
that can fold them up over their backs.. in an odd way.

Some of the filberts that grew next door in Oregon had worms. The
walnuts my dad had here in Boise had husk worms. Didn't for awhile,
then they did.

It all depends on what the neighbors have growing and how it's been
tended or not and what's brought into the neighborhood by others, and
what the last big wind out or the east.. or west or south has swept
in.

Janice