"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
I'm about to start digging a new vegetable garden, and I'm sure the deer
will arrive for a late night snack about 20 minutes after I'm done. So, I'm
entertaining the though of running an electric fence around the plot. I'm
interested in opinions from anyone who's either been satisfied with a
specific brand or catalog offering, or totally disgusted (so I can avoid
that one). Positive recommendations should refer to units sold in the U.S.
-Doug

I run 4 strands, 6", 2', 4', and 6'. Chargers come "continuous" or
"pulsed". I use a pulsed one for safety reasons - the current is off
long enough for you to get loose from it if needed. One of the old
tricks is cutting strips of tin foil, clothes pinning them to the hot
wire, and rubbing peanut butter on them. A deer or other animal needs
only one shock to the tongue to learn to stay away.
I have lots of deer on my property, but they have learned to stay out
of the garden. Haven't had one in there in years now.

Bob S.

Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Rich
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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I'm about to start digging a new vegetable garden, and I'm sure the deer
will arrive for a late night snack about 20 minutes after I'm done. So,
I'm
entertaining the though of running an electric fence around the plot. I'm
interested in opinions from anyone who's either been satisfied with a
specific brand or catalog offering, or totally disgusted (so I can avoid
that one). Positive recommendations should refer to units sold in the
U.S.
-Doug

I run 4 strands, 6", 2', 4', and 6'. Chargers come "continuous" or
"pulsed". I use a pulsed one for safety reasons - the current is off
long enough for you to get loose from it if needed. One of the old
tricks is cutting strips of tin foil, clothes pinning them to the hot
wire, and rubbing peanut butter on them. A deer or other animal needs
only one shock to the tongue to learn to stay away.
I have lots of deer on my property, but they have learned to stay out
of the garden. Haven't had one in there in years now.

Bob S.

"Richard Schopps" wrote in message
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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Don't they eat bugs & slugs?

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Don't they eat bugs & slugs?


I though they were vegans. But even if they eat bugs [nothing eats
slugs, do they?], they also enjoy cucumber vines, pepper plants,
zucchini, beans, peas & most every other vegetable you might try to
grow.

Jim

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Don't they eat bugs & slugs?


I though they were vegans. But even if they eat bugs [nothing eats
slugs, do they?], they also enjoy cucumber vines, pepper plants,
zucchini, beans, peas & most every other vegetable you might try to
grow.

Jim

OK....so THAT'S why the varmint industry exists (rifles & ammo of certain
types), and farmers make it a sport to assassinate woodchucks!

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Don't they eat bugs & slugs?

I though they were vegans. But even if they eat bugs
[nothing eats slugs, do they?], they also enjoy cucumber
vines, pepper plants, zucchini, beans, peas & most every
other vegetable you might try to grow.

OK....so THAT'S why the varmint industry exists (rifles &
ammo of certain types), and farmers make it a sport to
assassinate woodchucks!

yeah, that & the big holes they dig in the pastures that
livestock can break thier legs in...
would you rather shoot the woodchuck or your prize filly?
lee
BTW, an electric fence won't keep a woodchuck out of the
garden. they'll just tunnel under it. and geese will sometimes
eat slugs...

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Don't they eat bugs & slugs?

I though they were vegans. But even if they eat bugs
[nothing eats slugs, do they?], they also enjoy cucumber
vines, pepper plants, zucchini, beans, peas & most every
other vegetable you might try to grow.

OK....so THAT'S why the varmint industry exists (rifles &
ammo of certain types), and farmers make it a sport to
assassinate woodchucks!

yeah, that & the big holes they dig in the pastures that
livestock can break thier legs in...
would you rather shoot the woodchuck or your prize filly?
lee
BTW, an electric fence won't keep a woodchuck out of the
garden. they'll just tunnel under it. and geese will sometimes
eat slugs...

I'd rather shoot the woodchuck, particularly since I have a recipe for them.
And geese....I'd strangle them with my bare hands, if necessary. Any
creature that makes turds which blend into the grass is pure evil.

where can i get a bullet proofs frence

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Rich

That's why the lower strand is at 6 inches - to keep the smaller
critters out. Haven't found anything to keep the squirrels out of the
corn though.

Bob S.

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Rich

That's why the lower strand is at 6 inches - to keep the smaller
critters out. Haven't found anything to keep the squirrels out of the
corn though.

Bob S.

Havahart traps? And/or: In James Crockett's book, he suggests covering the
ears with paper bags after the silks have begun to brown. He says this will
keep out crows. No idea if perhaps some variation on this might work with
squirrels. Perhaps paper bags smeared with Elmer's glue and sprinkled with
cayenne pepper?

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Rich

That's why the lower strand is at 6 inches - to keep the smaller
critters out. Haven't found anything to keep the squirrels out of the
corn though.

Bob S.

Havahart traps? And/or: In James Crockett's book, he suggests covering the
ears with paper bags after the silks have begun to brown. He says this will
keep out crows. No idea if perhaps some variation on this might work with
squirrels. Perhaps paper bags smeared with Elmer's glue and sprinkled with
cayenne pepper?

When they have their goal set on fresh corn it's almost impossible to
get them in a trap. Also, I average about 1000 corn stalks and that'll
take a *lot* of bags. You would think that many would be enough to
share with the squirrels, but the little hogs ruin much more than they
actually eat. Coons used to be a problem but the electric fence has
deterred them.

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Will this type of fence out woodchuckS?

Rich

That's why the lower strand is at 6 inches - to keep the smaller
critters out. Haven't found anything to keep the squirrels out of the
corn though.

Bob S.

Havahart traps? And/or: In James Crockett's book, he suggests covering
the
ears with paper bags after the silks have begun to brown. He says this
will
keep out crows. No idea if perhaps some variation on this might work
with
squirrels. Perhaps paper bags smeared with Elmer's glue and sprinkled
with
cayenne pepper?

When they have their goal set on fresh corn it's almost impossible to
get them in a trap. Also, I average about 1000 corn stalks and that'll
take a *lot* of bags. You would think that many would be enough to
share with the squirrels, but the little hogs ruin much more than they
actually eat. Coons used to be a problem but the electric fence has
deterred them.

In that case, you need a stupid cat. Mine used to chase any squirrel that
entered the yard, even though she once got ripped up pretty badly by one of
the lawn rats. :-) She never wrestled one again, just chased them.

Doug Kanter said:

he suggests covering the
ears with paper bags after the silks have begun to brown. He says this will
keep out crows. No idea if perhaps some variation on this might work with
squirrels

But you have to catch the little buggers before you can cover their ears
with paper bags.


Dave
http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave

Bob S. said:

That's why the lower strand is at 6 inches - to keep the smaller
critters out. Haven't found anything to keep the squirrels out of the
corn though.

A fence with a small mesh that's topped with a couple of electric wires
will keep out fox squirrels. Small heavy-duty paper bags will ward off
birds. I've notice the local squirrels will always go over or under a fence
in preference to going through it -- even the small red squirrels which
you'd think should be able to slip through.

(Advice from experience: don't cheap out on the paper bags.)
--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

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