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Fertilizer for slow growing plants
Recently we planted around 15 4" annuals around our yard. Two or three
of them are not growing as well as the others. Is there some kind of fertilizer you would recommend that we can feed them to help their growth? We live in Western Washington state. Thanks. |
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tenplay said:
Recently we planted around 15 4" annuals around our yard. Two or three of them are not growing as well as the others. Is there some kind of fertilizer you would recommend that we can feed them to help their growth? We live in Western Washington state. Thanks. I like Osmocote (or a similar product) for annual bedding plants. -- Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (attributed to Don Marti) |
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Osmocote (or the generic equivilent) works very well before you plant them,
after planting, Miracle Grow works very well, my only complaint with that is that you have to reapply about every other week, because its basically a liquid fertilizer. |
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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:11:26 GMT, me wrote:
Osmocote (or the generic equivilent) works very well before you plant them, after planting, Miracle Grow works very well, my only complaint with that is that you have to reapply about every other week, because its basically a liquid fertilizer. Hmmm...that seems VERY frequent. The "purists" (not meant derogatorily) hold that Miracle Gro works on the *plants*, whereas "organic" fertilizers work on the *soil*. Idea being that when the soil is healthy, plants will do better than when they get an instant shot of fertilizer like Miracle Gro. Not taking a position either way, as I'd have to grow stuff in two identical plots to have a control, required to verify the opposing (or complementary?) procedures scientifically. |
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Aspasia wrote in
: Hmmm...that seems VERY frequent. The "purists" (not meant derogatorily) hold that Miracle Gro works on the *plants*, whereas "organic" fertilizers work on the *soil*. Idea being that when the soil is healthy, plants will do better than when they get an instant shot of fertilizer like Miracle Gro. Not taking a position either way, as I'd have to grow stuff in two identical plots to have a control, required to verify the opposing (or complementary?) procedures scientifically. Absolutely, its very fequent. Miracle grow is a foliar feeder, and doesn't last long in the soil at all. There is no substitute for good healthy soil, its absolutely essential. however that said, my gathering of the meaning of the post is that all they were looking for was a quick solution. Compost tea and some plant tone would most likely be a better long term solution. |
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me wrote:
Aspasia wrote in : Hmmm...that seems VERY frequent. The "purists" (not meant derogatorily) hold that Miracle Gro works on the *plants*, whereas "organic" fertilizers work on the *soil*. Idea being that when the soil is healthy, plants will do better than when they get an instant shot of fertilizer like Miracle Gro. Not taking a position either way, as I'd have to grow stuff in two identical plots to have a control, required to verify the opposing (or complementary?) procedures scientifically. Absolutely, its very fequent. Miracle grow is a foliar feeder, and doesn't last long in the soil at all. There is no substitute for good healthy soil, its absolutely essential. however that said, my gathering of the meaning of the post is that all they were looking for was a quick solution. Compost tea and some plant tone would most likely be a better long term solution. Compost tea is hogwash. Just plain old compost would be much better. -- Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 5 |
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:21:41 GMT, "Travis"
wrote: Compost tea is hogwash. Just plain old compost would be much better. So Travis another one of your silly one liners.... You and Paggers are welcome to your silly opinions, bsed on no experience.... For those with open minds... Part I: The following is a selection of recent science papers and on-farm test results on compost teas, composts, soil microbial diversity, biorationals, and disease-suppressive composts posted to the Compost Tea List on Yahoo!Groups. Date: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:59 pm Subject: Compost: A review of the composting process, biocontrol mechanisms, & suppression of turfgrass disease http://www.springerlink.com/app/home...lts,1:100229,1 Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:36 pm Subject: Phytopathology journal article on compost tea, November 2004 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/10013 Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:42 pm Subject: Plant Disease journal article on compost teas, August 2003 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/10014 Date: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:06 pm Subject: Phytopathology88:compost water extracts+induced resistance by Zhang & Hoitink http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/10024 Date: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:24 pm Subject: Soil microbial diversity in German-English journal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/10130 Date: Thu Jan 6, 2005 12:56 pm Subject: Tomato foliar disease control using OMRI-approved materials http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/11127 Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:34 pm Subject: A new literature review on compost teas for disease suppression http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/11231 Part II: The following excerpts are from the compost tea resource list I use to supplement my workshops and publications in my ATTRA work: 2.0 Literature Reviews a. Scheuerell, Steve, and Walter Mahaffee. 2002. Compost tea: Principles and prospects for plant disease control (Literature review). Compost Science & Utilization. Vol. 10, No. 4. (Autumn) p. 313 - 338. This is the literature review published in Compost Science & Utilization by Steve Scheuerell and Walter Mahaffee of Oregon State University. It was part of Scheuerell's PhD disseration on compost teas. This is the most thorough and extensive literature review on compost teas published to date. Compost Science & Utilization is a journal published by JG Press, Inc., which also publishes BioCycle, the trade magazine of the composting industry. Archived articles in JG Press publications are available online for 3 each. The JG Press, Inc. Archives http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/jgpress/ Compost Science & Utilization. Vol. 10, No. 4. (Autumn) http://www.jgpress.com/CSUContents/2002/Autumn2002.html b. Organic Teas from Composts and Manures Richard Merrill, OFRF Grant Report 97–40 http://www.ofrf.org/publications/Gra...ports/97.40.10 ..Merrill.Fall97.IB9.pdf An Organic Farming Research Foundation report. This is the full OFRF report; a 51-page PDF download, with 88 literature references in the bibliography, "Selected References for Organic Tea Extract Studies." This OFRF research report is based on work at Cabrillo Community College. It has noteworthy background information on compost teas and the composting process. It provides an interesting explanation of the Four Paths of Organic Decay. Of special interest, is the prototype homemade aerobic compost tea extractor, based on a double barrel design. c. Litterick, A.M., L. Harrier, P. Wallace, C. A. Watson, M. Wood. 2004. The Role of Uncomposted Materials, Composts, Manures, and Compost Extracts in Reducing Pest and Disease Incidence and Severity in Sustainable Temperate Agricultural and Horticultural Crop Production — A Review. Critical Reviews in Plant Sciences. Volume 23, Number 6 (November-December). p. 453 - 479. This is a new (November-December 2004) literature review published in Critical Reviews in Plant Sciences by a research group in Scotland and England. The Taylor & Francis Group, publisher of Critical Reviews in Plant Sciences, provides access to the abstract for free on its Web site. Talk to your local librarian for assistance in obtaining the full 27-page literature review in PDF. Abstract in Critical Reviews in Plant Sciences 1. http://journalsonline.tandf.co.uk/li...l4cyddht5kbej9 2. http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/07352680490886815 6.0 On-Farm Research into Compost Teas a. Evaluating the Benefits of CompostTeas to the Small Market Grower Minnesota Greenbook 2003 http://www.mda.state.mn.us/esap/gree...fruitsveg1.pdf Evaluating the Benefits of CompostTeas to the Small Market Grower Minnesota Greenbook 2002 http://www.mda.state.mn.us/esap/gree.../fv3bailey.pdf Evaluating the Benefits of CompostTeas to the Small Market Grower Minnesota Greenbook 2001 http://www.mda.state.mn.us/esap/gree...1/2001gb30.pdf These PDF papers are 4-6 pages each. They summarize on-farm research into compost teas, funded by the Energy and Sustainable Agriculture Program at the Minnesota Department of Agriculture. They provide insight into compost tea preparation, microbial analysis, and compost tea use on the farm, with a summary of results. b. Compost Tea Brewer Test Results North Country Organics www.norganics.com/tests.html www.norganics.com/Test7-17.pdf Paul Sachs at North Country Organics, author of Edaphos: Dynamics of a Natural Soil System and Handbook of Successful Ecological Lawn Care, conducted a series of compost tea brewing trials. This Web site hosts the SFI microbial analysis reports from these trials. The parameters for each batch of compost tea are noted with each lab report. The parameters included volume of tea, brewing time, aeration time, water temperature, and the use of three compost tea additives known as Fungal Booster, Bacterial Booster, and Mineral Booster. c. EPM Compost Tea Test Results from SFI www.composttea.com/test_results.htm Bruce Elliott at EPM, Inc. in Cottage Grove, Oregon, manufactures the Earth Tea Brewer. This Web site hosts SFI microbial analysis reports for compost teas brewed with EPM's 22-, 100-, and 500-gallon Earth Tea Brewers. Part III: Also see: 1. Compost Teas: Microbial Hygiene and Quality in Relation to Method of Preparation W. Brinton, P. Storms, et al Biodymamics | Summer 2004 | Vol. 2: 36-45. http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/compost-tea-BD04R.pdf 2. Ted Peterson at EW/SOE can provide reports from completed projects submitted to municipalities as a part of its research and demonstration on the benefits and uses of composts and compost teas. Topical reports are available on: * Wastewater industry/Biosolids composting * Park turf water conservation/Park management without chemicals * Compost tea/Micorrhiza turf tests Contact: Earth-Wise/Spirit of the Earth http://www.earth-wise.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + |
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