After losing a few fish early in the year it is now evident that the water
lettuce in one of my gardens is the same size it was in June when introduced.
The anacharis has barely grown and the water lily has just now produced
flowers. The water is crystal clear with no obvious explanation since I have
no exotic filter or UV light. Am I looking at chemical condition here? The PH
measured 7.8 a few days ago.
By contrast, the other garden has anacharis spreading all over the surface and
the lettuce is growing but not as fast as previous years. The water lily was
slow growing as the other one. PH in this one is 7.6. Several new fish
introduced did not last long. Anyone have some ideas?

Vince

"VRB300" wrote in message
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After losing a few fish early in the year it is now evident that the water
lettuce in one of my gardens is the same size it was in June when
introduced.
The anacharis has barely grown and the water lily has just now produced
flowers. The water is crystal clear with no obvious explanation since I
have
no exotic filter or UV light.

SNIPPAGE

Maybe a lack of trace elements? Have you tried muriate of potash, for
starters?

NJ

muriate of potash, for
starters?
Sounds exotic to me. Never even heard of it. What is the purpose?

Vince

(VRB300) wrote in message ...
muriate of potash, for
starters?
Sounds exotic to me. Never even heard of it. What is the purpose?

Vince

Muriate of Potash is a missing element in your water that allows the
plants to utilize the phosphates and nitrates. After a few week the
plants will green up and grow. It is sold in garden centers. Dissolve
2-3 tablespoons in a liter of water adding 1/8 cup/ 100 gallons of
pond water twice a week. After the plants green-up you could cut back
to once. It is ok to substitute Sulfate of Potash. Happy water
gardening.

What is the water lettuce missing if my WH is nice and green but the edges of
my WL are turning yellow. All other plants look great.

Karen
Zone 5
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potash

Thanks. I will give it a try.

"Karen Mullen" wrote in message
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What is the water lettuce missing if my WH is nice and green but the edges
of
my WL are turning yellow. All other plants look great.

Hi, Karen--

I had this problem all pond season, and the potash didn't do anything to
assist in greening the lettuces, nor did a trace element mixture. I ended
up finding clouds of little black gnats over all the lettuces as well as
some amongst the leaves. I think they were the culprits. Take a good look
at your plants and see if the bugs are camping out in yours, too.

NJ
zone 5b

In article , "NJ"
writes:

I had this problem all pond season, and the potash didn't do anything to
assist in greening the lettuces, nor did a trace element mixture. I ended
up finding clouds of little black gnats over all the lettuces as well as
some amongst the leaves. I think they were the culprits. Take a good look
at your plants and see if the bugs are camping out in yours, too

Hi NJ

I checked my WL from various locations around the pond and didn't find and any
infestations. These lettuce came from a friends pond and were the most
beautiful shade of green, growing babies on babies all still attached. Her
pond is shaded and mine is in full sun, I think maybe??? they're getting
sunburned? Anyone have beautiful WL in full sun?

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
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"Karen Mullen" wrote in message
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Her
pond is shaded and mine is in full sun, I think maybe??? they're getting
sunburned? Anyone have beautiful WL in full sun?

Karen,
This sounds like the problem. WL will only tolerate a small bit of sun, and
dappled at that.
NJ

I don't know how beautiful, but I have large lettuce. The heads are about
15 to 18 or more inches across and would be larger, except they are so
crowded in the veggie filter. They are in full sun. You can see pictures
on my web page listed below.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Karen Mullen" wrote in message
...
In article , "NJ"

writes:

I had this problem all pond season, and the potash didn't do anything to
assist in greening the lettuces, nor did a trace element mixture. I
ended
up finding clouds of little black gnats over all the lettuces as well as
some amongst the leaves. I think they were the culprits. Take a good
look
at your plants and see if the bugs are camping out in yours, too

Hi NJ

I checked my WL from various locations around the pond and didn't find
and any
infestations. These lettuce came from a friends pond and were the most
beautiful shade of green, growing babies on babies all still attached.
Her
pond is shaded and mine is in full sun, I think maybe??? they're getting
sunburned? Anyone have beautiful WL in full sun?

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
http://hometown.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html
My Art Studio at
http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K....M.Studios.html
for email remove the extra extention

In article cGT2b.269731$YN5.183551@sccrnsc01, "RichToyBox"
writes:


I don't know how beautiful, but I have large lettuce. The heads are about
15 to 18 or more inches across and would be larger, except they are so
crowded in the veggie filter. They are in full sun. You can see pictures
on my web page listed below.


they're not as dark as the ones in my friends pond, but definately not yellow.
what else could it be causing mine to turn yellow? thoughts?
beautiful pond BTW
Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
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We've seen Rich's lettuce, hyacinths, and taro, etc.
He grows them BIG down there South of the Mason-Dixon line!
We decided he's got not only green thumbs, but green toes as well (although
Donna has a hand in some of it I think)!
Happy ponding,
Greg


"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:cGT2b.269731$YN5.183551@sccrnsc01...
I don't know how beautiful, but I have large lettuce. The heads are about
15 to 18 or more inches across and would be larger, except they are so
crowded in the veggie filter. They are in full sun. You can see pictures
on my web page listed below.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Karen Mullen" wrote in message
...
In article , "NJ"

writes:

I had this problem all pond season, and the potash didn't do anything
to
assist in greening the lettuces, nor did a trace element mixture. I
ended
up finding clouds of little black gnats over all the lettuces as well
as
some amongst the leaves. I think they were the culprits. Take a good
look
at your plants and see if the bugs are camping out in yours, too

Hi NJ

I checked my WL from various locations around the pond and didn't find
and any
infestations. These lettuce came from a friends pond and were the most
beautiful shade of green, growing babies on babies all still attached.
Her
pond is shaded and mine is in full sun, I think maybe??? they're getting
sunburned? Anyone have beautiful WL in full sun?

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
http://hometown.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html
My Art Studio at
http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K....M.Studios.html
for email remove the extra extention

"Karen Mullen" wrote in message
...
In article cGT2b.269731$YN5.183551@sccrnsc01, "RichToyBox"
writes:
they're not as dark as the ones in my friends pond, but definately not
yellow.
what else could it be causing mine to turn yellow? thoughts?
beautiful pond BTW

Thanks for the comments. I grow mine in the final filter before the water
goes back into the pond, hoping that it will take a lot of the nitrates out
of the stream. I add potash every few weeks, and an occasional bit of
liquid iron, because I don't think they are as green as I would like either,
but they grow like crazy, I give a lot away, compost some, and rarely find
any of the small lettuce that the stores sell.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

In article , "RichToyBox"
writes:

I grow mine in the final filter before the water
goes back into the pond, hoping that it will take a lot of the nitrates out
of the stream.

that's where mine are in the final filter. What part of the country are you
in, Virginia? When I was in Houston, I had no trouble growing WL or WH, also
had a steady Ph of 8.7 without doing anything and the WL would grow dinner
plate size, so I guess it's what's not in the water here that's giving me
grief. Don't think I'll do anything about it this year, but next year I might
try the iron and see if that makes a difference.

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
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Just east of Richmond. Heat index today 107.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Karen Mullen" wrote in message
...
In article , "RichToyBox"
writes:

I grow mine in the final filter before the water
goes back into the pond, hoping that it will take a lot of the nitrates
out
of the stream.

that's where mine are in the final filter. What part of the country are
you
in, Virginia? When I was in Houston, I had no trouble growing WL or WH,
also
had a steady Ph of 8.7 without doing anything and the WL would grow dinner
plate size, so I guess it's what's not in the water here that's giving me
grief. Don't think I'll do anything about it this year, but next year I
might
try the iron and see if that makes a difference.

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
http://hometown.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html
My Art Studio at
http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K....M.Studios.html
for email remove the extra extention