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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Jonny wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Its easier for mass building of homes to scrape the land of topsoil. You can't pour a concrete slab on wishwashy soil. More difficult for heavy trucks to move in that soil, especially concrete trucks. It is odd the builder didn't just put the topsoil back when the house was completed. Guess it was the minor cost in doing that. yep. telling from that point of view works every time. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Mike wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. that causes me to wonder if certification by the NCDACS would be required before allowing said lawn care works to make such an application? most likely, there'd be an unaddressed loop hole somewhere in this one. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Jim Ledford wrote:
.p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. Manure. -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John |
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synergy3000 wrote:
I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks A couple years ago, I tried to improve the soil by spreading a layer of top soil over the lawn. This involved manually spreading the top-soil, and then use a large and wide landscape rake to smoothen the top soil in order to prevent the top soil from smashing the grass. So far, I am not sure if this has really helped anything. I cannot tell one way or the other. Please note that spreading top soil is a very time consuming and tiring process. I only have a 1/4 arce property (with around 1/2 of the property is lawn) and I was/am physically fit. Nevertheless, I was very very tired after I had spreaded the top soil (took 2 days). I promise myself never do this again unless I am doing this in very small areas (like re-seeding bare spots in the lawn). Please think twice before committing yourself to this course of action. I also use mulching instead of bagging when I mow the lawn hoping that this will add organic matters to the soil, and may improve the soil quality. Again, I don't know if this really helps or not; but this should not harm even if this doesn't help. Jay Chan |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
synergy3000 wrote:
I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks You can't put much more than 1/2 to 1 inch of soil on existing turf and have it survive. How many square feet is it? |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Mike" wrote:
"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message ... "synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. Unless its been farmed to shit! It's lacking the shit. (organics) |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Srgnt Billko" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message ... "Srgnt Billko" wrote in message ... "synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. Unless its been farmed to shit! Is that supposed to be a pun ? Cow shit or chicken shit ? Even if it has been harvested without fertilization (unlikely) the soil should still be nice and loose and strong enough to grow grass. Someone sold the top soil years ago. That ain't no farm. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. that causes me to wonder if certification by the NCDACS would be required before allowing said lawn care works to make such an application? most likely, there'd be an unaddressed loop hole somewhere in this one. I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. Wow that was a struggle, my R key is pooched! |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Mike wrote:
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. that causes me to wonder if certification by the NCDACS would be required before allowing said lawn care works to make such an application? most likely, there'd be an unaddressed loop hole somewhere in this one. I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. Wow that was a struggle, my R key is pooched! North Carolina Dept of Agriculture & Consumer Services http://www.ncagr.com/ -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Mike wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with acedic acid/yucca for weed control. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Mike wrote:
I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
Jim Ledford wrote:
synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. LOL. And return to the days of e coli, cholera, listeria, dysentery, and foodstuffs mishapen and unappealing due to proper mineral balance? BTW - there's nothing "synthetic" about chemical fertilizers. Chemically, there is no difference whatsoever - except for uniform composition and lack of impurities. Science - not voodoo traditions. |
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Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a biohazard symbol on them. |
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